southsider2k5 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I made a bet with someone at work that Hamilton wouldn't get to 110 RBIs. I think the Texas summer takes it out of him, and he falls off pretty big. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Maybe. I doubt it -- he's a beast, and he's used to playing in the heat in NC. But I don't approve of gambling on baseball, or rooting against such heroic players. Although 110 is a pretty conservative number right now, so I'd take that bet if I were a betting man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 22, 2008 -> 01:33 PM) I made a bet with someone at work that Hamilton wouldn't get to 110 RBIs. I think the Texas summer takes it out of him, and he falls off pretty big. Thoughts? Hope it was a small bet. At the rate he's going he'll easily surpass 110. Of course, if the injury bug strikes you never know. I dont think it would be anything but that (injuries) which keepis him from 110 RBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseballNick Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I think you'll lose your bet. Hamilton looks pretty locked in and that's a team that going to score some runs. If he stays healthy and "clean" then I don't see him slowing down much. He's a guy you want to root for too on a personal level too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share Posted May 22, 2008 Its nothing big... I am just thinking with the way that the Rangers fall apart in August and September every year, its got a pretty good shot. Look at guys like Blalock, Kinsler, Mench, Wilkerson during their time down in Texas. Big first halves, bad second halves. Texeira seemed to buck that trend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 And then he went yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 He's good very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I'd say the Volquez/Hamilton deal worked pretty well for both teams. Who would you rather have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ May 22, 2008 -> 10:43 PM) I would think at some point you stop pitching to him, and let other guys try and beat you. The guy is insane. Especially with 2 outs...that's insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 22, 2008 -> 03:30 PM) I'd say the Volquez/Hamilton deal worked pretty well for both teams. Who would you rather have? Volquez. Especially for a team like Texas who never has any pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 He would have to fall off the face off the earth to not get 110. He is on pace for 178 right now. Heck, he does not have to get 1 RBI from now until July and he would still be on pace for 110. I think he gets it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Stoney was on The Score earlier pretty much berating the Cubs for dealing Hamilton for $50k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 QUOTE (bschmaranz @ May 22, 2008 -> 06:44 PM) Stoney was on The Score earlier pretty much berating the Cubs for dealing Hamilton for $50k. That's Got Bambino Curse all over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Could it be that the Cubs dealt him to Cinci as a special favor to the Reds and Hamilton because their manager at the time had family connections to Hamilton and people were worried that he might not be alright without him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) Right now I'd put that over under at 125 and probably take the over. I was down in Texas last week and saw this kid first hand. I personally think he's the most talented player in all of baseball when considering all facets of the game. He hit a ball that was still going up as it got to the 2nd deck. He runs like a deer in the outfield and can get to any ball. His speed on the basepaths is ridiculous. Seriously, he's amazing. Edited May 22, 2008 by Steve9347 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/20...332850683_x.htm Josh Hamilton was one of those can't-miss prospects, the clean-cut kid who was such a complete player that he was drafted No. 1 overall out of high school. So it really shouldn't be a surprise how the Texas Rangers' center fielder is performing this season. It's just that to do it he's traveled a much longer and harder road than anyone could have imagined. Hamilton reached 50 RBIs faster than any player in American League history, breaking a record that had been shared by Joe DiMaggio. He's also blasting home runs, hitting for average and playing stellar defense. "He's really a freak of nature," Houston Astros slugger Lance Berkman said, shaking his head in disbelief during a recent series against Texas. "He's got tremendous talent, got unbelievable pop and he can run like the wind," teammate Gerald Laird said. "He's just got it all. ... All you can do is sit back and say, 'Wow!"' That exclamation applies on many levels when it comes to Hamilton and his inspirational comeback. It has been nine years since Hamilton was drafted, including 3 1/2 seasons he didn't even play because of addictions to cocaine and alcohol, neither of which he tried until being on the disabled list in the minor leagues in 2001. His life then spiraled out of control. There were multiple failed drug tests, suspensions from baseball, eight stints in drug rehab and an estrangement from his family. He spent all of the more than $3.5 million in signing bonus he got in 1999 after Tampa Bay took him ahead of Josh Beckett and made him the first prep player picked first overall since Alex Rodriguez six years earlier. But Hamilton has been sober since October 2005, when he was confronted by a loving grandmother after showing up at her door. He has also relied on his Christian faith, and never tries to hide from his past. With the chance to play again, and finally having the opportunity to fulfill the lofty expectations that came with being a top prospect, Hamilton - who turned 27 on Wednesday - is relishing every moment. "I mean I can't really put it in words," he said. "God's grace, his mercy is just so limitless really. To go from where I was to where I am now and the way I got here. Every day going on the field, it just reminds me to be a kid and have fun." Like when he was the high school phenom in North Carolina before his lifelong dream got tainted. "This is what I always envisioned, being in the lineup every day, playing," Hamilton said. He was the American League player of the month in April, his first with the Rangers, when he hit .330 with six homers and 32 RBIs. He wasn't just a one-month wonder. After Thursday's 8-7 win over the Minnesota Twins, Hamilton had a .335 average and 12 homers, both at or near the top in the AL. His majors-best 53 RBIs were nine more than NL leader Berkman and 15 more than the next-closest AL player. Hamilton had 10 multihit games in his last 12 starts and already has six more RBIs than he did during his breakthrough rookie season in Cincinnati last year. "It just shows the kind of God-given ability he has. He's just got it. He's got what it takes to be an impact player at the major league level," Berkman said. "Given an opportunity, he's going to put up some silly numbers." Hamilton was on pace to drive in 175 runs this season. In his 45th game Monday, he got his 50th RBI, one game earlier than DiMaggio did as a rookie in 1936 or Carl Everett did in 2000 after coming from the National League to the Rangers. "He has certainly been a great surprise," manager Ron Washington said. "I mean we knew he was talented. We had just never seen him on a daily basis." The Rangers acquired Hamilton over the winter, giving up top pitching prospect Edinson Volquez because they wanted a big bat for the middle of their lineup. The Reds made that deal because they needed pitching and had an abundance of outfielders. So far, the trade has worked out great for both teams. Volquez was 7-1 with a majors-best 1.33 ERA after his first eight starts in Cincinnati. At the start of Rangers' spring training, Hamilton openly discussed his past - like he had in Cincinnati the previous spring and often does for churches and other groups. Nearly everybody already knew the details of his sordid tale. "Obviously he shows a lot of courage to sit here and face what's happened to him, face everything that he's been through and use it as a lesson for other people," said Michael Young, the Rangers' All-Star shortstop. "He's the kind of guy everybody pulls for." On the field in spring training, Hamilton impressed his new teammates with awe-inspiring batting practice blasts. There were balls ricocheting off the clubhouse building beyond the left-center field fence and scorching liners into the outfield gaps. "My mouth dropped," Laird said. "He's got uncanny power. There's a lot of guys that have a lot of big pop in BP and stuff, but this guy's for real in-game power," longtime Rangers hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo. "He's the type of guy that can get hot and carry you. You can't say that about everybody." And that's coming from a coach who has instructed the likes of sluggers Alex Rodriguez, Juan Gonzalez, Sammy Sosa and Rafael Palmeiro. In the Rangers' interleague opener against Houston, Hamilton was 5-for-5 with two long homers, a triple, five RBIs and 13 total bases - one off the franchise record set by Jose Canseco in 1994. All those at-bats came after a bruising tumble when he almost made a spectacular running catch in deep center in the first inning. The ball popped out of the glove when his body slammed to the ground, but he quickly recovered and threw while almost sitting to hold the hitter to a double. Hamilton hit .292 with 19 homers and 47 RBIs in 298 at-bats last season for Cincinnati, which got him in the Rule 5 draft during the 2006 winter meetings when Tampa Bay didn't have him protected on its 40-man roster. When the Reds acquired Hamilton, his only games since 2002 had been 15 starts at the lowest rung of the minor leagues after finally having his suspension lifted. And his only games above the Class A had been the 23 he played in 2001 at Double-A Orlando. "He missed four years and then he comes to the big leagues and basically is a man amongst boys," Rangers second baseman Ian Kinsler said. "Who knows what he could have done. He's making up for it right now." Hamilton, who at times wondered if he'd ever play again, doesn't consume himself with thoughts about what might have been on the field - or even how good he's doing now. The more than two dozen tattoos on his body, however, are constant reminders of his dark days when he got them, times when he said he "never seemed to laugh or cry." Among the tattoos are blank-eyed demons. But his last tattoo is an image of Jesus Christ on the back of his leg. He views that as a symbol of victory over his addictions. Asked about his torrid RBI pace, Hamilton smiles and responds, "Are we?" "If I think about it, then that's what I'll be focusing on," he said. "If an opportunity rises, I just do the best I can. ... God first, obviously, and my family. Keep those two things first and other stuff will just fall into place." Hamilton's focus is always on today. Because he can't change the past - and he doesn't want to mess up again in the future. "As a friend and a teammate," Young said, "I'm just thankful that he's at where he's at now." On and off the field. Good article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Josh currently leads the AL in all triple crown categories: .335 BA 12 HR 53 RBI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ May 22, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) Josh currently leads the AL in all triple crown categories: .335 BA 12 HR 53 RBI Tied with CQ in homers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 QUOTE (hammerhead johnson @ May 22, 2008 -> 09:18 PM) Josh currently leads the AL in all triple crown categories: .335 BA 12 HR 53 RBI He probably could win the Triple Crown too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 23, 2008 -> 01:29 AM) He probably could win the Triple Crown too Nothing gets past you wite,does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I first read about his tribulations in an ESPN.com magazine article like 4 years ago. Something about the fallen hero. He was still addicted and everything. He's one of the best stories and an inspiration to anyone with substance abuse issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 One of my coaches in HS had a son who was drafted as an infielder for the Devil Rays and he would tell us stories about how everyone thought he was the next Mickey Mantle and how nice he always was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 22, 2008 -> 01:54 PM) Its nothing big... I am just thinking with the way that the Rangers fall apart in August and September every year, its got a pretty good shot. Look at guys like Blalock, Kinsler, Mench, Wilkerson during their time down in Texas. Big first halves, bad second halves. Texeira seemed to buck that trend. Yeah, as my friend from Dallas keeps telling me: once the Cowboys start practicing the Rangers record goes way down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 has he every played a full season without injury, drug abuse aside? I think he'll be on the DL soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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