EvilJester99 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Heard on Boers and Burnstein that OC said he won't talk to any reporter from Chicago except the Tribume cause he is pissed word got out he was crying to the scorer.....plus they said Dotel was physically restrained when he and ....got into a screaming match. Actually AT is. Conditioning coach Allen Thomas (A.T.) had no comment on his on-field argument with Dotel. Edited May 27, 2008 by EvilJester99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ May 27, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) Heard on Boers and Burnstein that OC said he won't talk to any reporter from Chicago except the Tribume cause he is pissed word got out he was crying to the scorer.....plus they said Dotel was physically restrained when he and ....got into a screaming match I assume it was the wild pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I guess OC said today that Ozzie doesn't have his back. This infuriated KW, as he said that Ozzie's strongest asset is he backs his players too much. Cowley made it sound like the organization has been very upset with OC's attitude all season, and things just hit the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Well all this means is odds are they will not try to resign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 QUOTE (Tony82087 @ May 28, 2008 -> 12:09 AM) I think that shipped has sailed. From the outside looking in, it seemed like Cabrera would have been a good fit, but clearly that hasn't been the case. If things don't improve between Ozzie and OC, I can see OC being traded sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 This is quite interesting. Hopefully he increases his value and the Sox can trade him for a solid young middle infield prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I still cannot believe this was the best we could do for Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ May 28, 2008 -> 12:16 AM) I still cannot believe this was the best we could do for Garland. It wasn't...but I think KW had a master plan of OC, Hunter, and Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 they need a great shortstop in order to compete. without one i think we will have a problem. Lets hope this works itself out unless the sox fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I would be very surprised if Furcal isn't KW's obsession this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 QUOTE (Gregory Pratt @ May 26, 2008 -> 11:46 AM) According to the article posted in the catch-all, he considers himself a mercenary hired to fix our chemistry. What a fool he is. How about hitting, Orlando? It is a walk year. If you want to cash in, I suggest hitting more then 2 freaking 40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...1,2111738.story So this was the second time OC has done this? Also, he won't state he feels comfortable with the Sox. I absolutely despise Orlando Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Im not liking all this crap coming from these O. Cab reports these past few days.. I defended it earlier, but reading that he doesn't feel 'comfortable' here kind of bothers me. At least Swish says how much he loves the Sox like everyday, even though he hits like .200. Pretty much everybody on the team loves the White Sox. Its a shame we cant say that for O. Cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 OC is just bitter from the '05 ALCS thrashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 28, 2008 -> 05:16 AM) OC is just bitter from the '05 ALCS thrashing. He's our Jeff Blauser. Once a Sox killer, always a Sox killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Cabrera has some things to say: "If it happens again, I will call again," Cabrera said. "I don't have to do it with other teams because they always had my back. They don't want to do it here, I can take care of my own business. If you have a problem with what I did, come to me and say something. Don't go to the media to send a message, because he didn't send any message." "I never had anybody complain about that stuff," said Cabrera, who won his second Gold Glove Award last season with the Los Angeles Angels. "If there was a major-league player who tells me he's not selfish, he's lying. Everyone is selfish about numbers, because that's the only thing people cannot lie about. That's it. It's not a big deal. I don't know who's trying to make this a big deal. Maybe it's the media, maybe it's the manager. And nobody is complaining about that stuff. Nobody cares about that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2008 -> 06:18 AM) Cabrera has some things to say: "If it happens again, I will call again," Cabrera said. "I don't have to do it with other teams because they always had my back. They don't want to do it here, I can take care of my own business. If you have a problem with what I did, come to me and say something. Don't go to the media to send a message, because he didn't send any message." "I never had anybody complain about that stuff," said Cabrera, who won his second Gold Glove Award last season with the Los Angeles Angels. "If there was a major-league player who tells me he's not selfish, he's lying. Everyone is selfish about numbers, because that's the only thing people cannot lie about. That's it. It's not a big deal. I don't know who's trying to make this a big deal. Maybe it's the media, maybe it's the manager. And nobody is complaining about that stuff. Nobody cares about that." What a jack off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Looks to be a short stop with Sox By Scot Gregor | Daily Herald Staff Published: 5/27/2008 9:50 PM | Updated: 5/27/2008 10:35 PM CLEVELAND -- Orlando Cabrera might be a good baseball player, but he continues to look like a bad fit for the White Sox. After the 33-year-old shortstop's latest escapade, don't be surprised if Cabrera is either traded before the end of the season or headed to the free-agent market without a contract offer from the Sox. It was quite a scene Tuesday at Progressive Field before the White Sox lost to the Indians 8-2. As manager Ozzie Guillen talked with reporters about Cabrera twice phoning official scorers during games this season to complain about error calls, another newcomer -- relief pitcher Octavio Dotel -- and director of conditioning Allen Thomas had to be separated after exchanging heated words during the team stretch. Say this about the Sox, they aren't boring. "All I know is I want exclusive rights to all networks that are there (in Cleveland) filming this soap opera so I can make it into a reality show,'' said White Sox general manager Kenny Williams, who is not on the road trip. After Williams acquired Cabrera for starting pitcher Jon Garland in a Nov. 19 trade with the Los Angeles Angels, he said: "We saw an opportunity to acquire one of the best shortstops in the game and one of the smartest in the game.'' That may be true, but Cabrera has never appeared comfortable since joining the Sox. The two-time Gold Glover was nearly invisible during spring training, and he consistently has been the first player out of the clubhouse since the season started. That can be overlooked, but Cabrera didn't exactly endear himself to Guillen two weeks ago when he said this about Mike Scioscia, his manager from 2005-07 with the Angels: "With all due respect to managers around the game, I think Scioscia is on another level. This guy, he dominates the opponent, the thinking, all the things that they do, the scouting reports, he has an advantage. I think he's the smartest guy in the game right now, no doubt.'' Cabrera had nothing to say -- expect to the Chicago Tribune -- on Tuesday about calling the official scorers. Needless to say, the act of trying to get errors taken away did not go over well in the White Sox' clubhouse. As for Guillen, he tried to support Cabrera as much as possible. "Everything we ask him to do, he's doing it,'' Guillen said. "You've got to think about it. It's his first year here. He doesn't know how we do things here and he doesn't know too many of the players here. He's going to be uncomfortable. "He's trying to be the leader when he shouldn't have to. We have so many guys here who have played so many years with the White Sox. He doesn't feel left out, but you aren't going to jump in right away and say, 'I'm the guy here.' '' Guillen said he hasn't talked to Cabrera about calling the official scorers. Williams said the issue has been addressed. "Am I aware of some of the stuff that has been going on with Cabrera? Yes,'' Williams said. "I also know it has been addressed to him face to face. The one thing Mr. Cabrera needs to know about Ozzie is he has faults, and his No. 1 fault is that he protects his players too much. "If Orlando doesn't understand that, he needs to talk to his neighbors.'' Question is, will Cabrera's neighbors talk to him? ___________________________________ Personally, I don't think Oz gives a s*** about what OC said about Scioscia. Either way...hopefully OC increases his value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 28, 2008 -> 08:18 AM) Cabrera has some things to say: "If it happens again, I will call again," Cabrera said. "I don't have to do it with other teams because they always had my back. They don't want to do it here, I can take care of my own business. If you have a problem with what I did, come to me and say something. Don't go to the media to send a message, because he didn't send any message." "I never had anybody complain about that stuff," said Cabrera, who won his second Gold Glove Award last season with the Los Angeles Angels. "If there was a major-league player who tells me he's not selfish, he's lying. Everyone is selfish about numbers, because that's the only thing people cannot lie about. That's it. It's not a big deal. I don't know who's trying to make this a big deal. Maybe it's the media, maybe it's the manager. And nobody is complaining about that stuff. Nobody cares about that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the People's Champ Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Looks to be a short stop with Sox Personally, I don't think Oz gives a s*** about what OC said about Scioscia. Either way...hopefully OC increases his value Why does this continue to be a big deal?? OC has played for Ozzie all of what? 3 months? Not an adequate amount of time to determine if someone is the best at what he does, if you ask me. And like you said I don't think Oz really gives a rat's ass. Ozzie wants you to do your job and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 (edited) how is espn picking up this story NOW? Not exactly breaking news anymore. Edited May 28, 2008 by rangercal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Quentin trade = I love Swisher trade = I hate, but at least Swisher is a good guy Cabrear trade = Lets get our compensation in the off-season, the guy is a friggin prima donna... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 money says Soscia wouldn't approve of his act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 story on sox.com what a douchebag... good lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 28, 2008 -> 06:23 AM) What a jack off. cant blame renteria for him comments anymore.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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