joejoesox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 jose is probably in between mussina and johnson in age, that's my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 03:53 PM) That's a pretty good question. This happened just after the Orioles vs Cuba game. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb52...06/ai_n19690424 Since then, the Orioles had signed cubans but they have not bid for anyone coming new to America. When a foreigner come to America, they are whatever citizenship they have and they can be free agents. But we can not. MLB does not want to see it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 I have a question... why was a defector like Yunel Escobar drafted, while another defector like Ramirez was a FA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 04:30 PM) I have a question... why was a defector like Yunel Escobar drafted, while another defector like Ramirez was a FA? Escobar came to the USA by boat. He elected to stay in the USA and entered the draft. If someone comes after the draft, then you wait until next year draft. Escobar had no name so he had no business going to a third country to obtain legal papers. Nowadays, it becoming increasingly difficult for cubans to go use the third country route. many of these governments are lefty and simpathetic of the cuban regime. Alexei has a dominican wife. She was studying medicine in Cuba. He visited the D.R. in the past, but this time he did not return to Cuba. He got his D.R. paper through the wife. His wife is a doctor now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (Cubano @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 03:35 PM) Escobar came to the USA by boat. He elected to stay in the USA and entered the draft. If someone comes after the draft, then you wait until next year draft. Escobar had no name so he had no business going to a third country to obtain legal papers. Nowadays, it becoming increasingly difficult for cubans to go use the third country route. many of these governments are lefty and simpathetic of the cuban regime. Alexei has a dominican wife. She was studying medicine in Cuba. He visited the D.R. in the past, but this time he did not return to Cuba. He got his D.R. paper through the wife. His wife is a doctor now. So, if you go the third country route, you are a free agent, while if you go straight to America or a place Puerto Rico, you are a draft eligible player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) So, if you go the third country route, you are a free agent, while if you go straight to America or a place Puerto Rico, you are a draft eligible player? Puerto Ricans are US citizens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 03:57 PM) Puerto Ricans are US citizens well duh, they are a territory of the U.S. Any non-nitwit knows that. I was just saying if they went to one of the U.S. Territories like Puerto Rico. Edited June 3, 2008 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 06:26 PM) well duh, they are a territory of the U.S. Any non-nitwit knows that. I was just saying if they went to one of the U.S. Territories like Puerto Rico. Oh my bad, I thought you were putting Puerto Rico in the category of the DR or what have you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 03:55 PM) So, if you go the third country route, you are a free agent, while if you go straight to America or a place Puerto Rico, you are a draft eligible player? You are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 02:50 PM) The big question, how old is Contreras? He is much younger than El Duke for sure. I do not think he lied becuase MLB had the Orioles-Cuba rosters info. Nowadays, lying about your age can be costly because team can void your contract. Many teams can go to the IBAF and request team info. The IBAF member is an american now too and he is close to MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 05:36 PM) Oh my bad, I thought you were putting Puerto Rico in the category of the DR or what have you. Us sane conservatives and you wacky liberals can never quite understand each other Edited June 4, 2008 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 06:43 PM) Us sane conservatives and you whacky liberals can never quite understand each other lol, I'm not a wacky liberal, people assume that, but i'm not. Edited June 3, 2008 by lostfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 06:58 PM) lol, I'm not a wacky liberal, people assume that, but i'm not. In my eyes you are Edited June 4, 2008 by BearSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 07:00 PM) In my eyes you are I would be the most disloyal liberal ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 After tonight, he might be around .265. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 boy is he rough with the glove. hopefully he's a quick learner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 09:06 PM) boy is he rough with the glove. hopefully he's a quick learner. He had 4 or 5 web gems against TB. Except today, he's been more then I've expected in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 08:59 PM) After tonight, he might be around .265. Try 10 points higher. 2 weeks ago we were talking about a player who was batting under .200 and some were saying he had no business in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Does Alexi look like an old guy or ya think his age is correct?? I love the way he looks at the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 11:53 PM) Try 10 points higher. 2 weeks ago we were talking about a player who was batting under .200 and some were saying he had no business in the majors. I don't recall anybody actually saying that (the rational posters anyway). Mostly everyone was saying that he needed consistent ABs in AAA, though. I don't think too many people expected him to get this hot this fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:53 PM) Try 10 points higher. 2 weeks ago we were talking about a player who was batting under .200 and some were saying he had no business in the majors. I've been Alexei's biggest fan, and two weeks ago I was saying he should either be starting or playing full time in Charlotte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeynach Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 OMG we now have a 2B who is hitting for a respectable batting avg. Alexi is hitting .275 and it feels like hes hitting .375. Im so giddy lets celebrate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 He's been just terrific since he's been in the line up everyday. I actually want to see him play short a few games when OC needs a day off, to see if he could possibly handle that in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Having not read most of this thread and being a lifelong Uribe supporter, Ramirez has my vote after the last few games. I know it's a small sample size, but to the best of my recollection he was pursued by many a team during the offseason, and this is what he was eventually expected to do. At this point in the season, whatever clicks offensively needs to stay until it stops clicking. Down with OCab! Bring on Juan for SS! No, but seriously, unless Cabrera starts producing like he's supposed to, there is no reason why Uribe and Cabrera shouldn't share the spot. While he's not batting .047 anymore, he got two of the s***tiest RBI I've seen last night. He's playing just as hit or miss as Uribe, only when Juan hits, he hits it onto the expressway. When Orlando hits, he hits it just out of the second baseman's reach. Plus, Uribe's cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RME JICO Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (joeynach @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:43 PM) OMG we now have a 2B who is hitting for a respectable batting avg. Alexi is hitting .275 and it feels like hes hitting .375. Im so giddy lets celebrate . That's because he has. Since May 18th, he is batting .385 with a .985 OPS in 52 ABs. When he gets a better feel for the strikezone and can take some walks, he is going to be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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