BigSqwert Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 29, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) Anytime anyone posts anything from Fox News youre the first one to chime in about the slant they put on things. Then you use the Huffington Post which does the same thing. Its kind of hypocritical. Forget the link he provided and use this one. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi...0,6304563.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:00 PM) Anytime anyone posts anything from Fox News youre the first one to chime in about the slant they put on things. Then you use the Huffington Post which does the same thing. Its kind of hypocritical. HuffPo was simply reporting that there was an outcry from the conservative right that it was an inappropriate ad. I dont see the problem in that. Let the record show, i am not a big fan of "partisan" reporting. As a kinda sorta journalist (majored in radio broadcasting), I believe it should be fair and BALANCED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ May 29, 2008 -> 12:16 PM) HuffPo was simply reporting that there was an outcry from the conservative right that it was an inappropriate ad. I dont see the problem in that. Let the record show, i am not a big fan of "partisan" reporting. As a kinda sorta journalist (majored in radio broadcasting), I believe it should be fair and BALANCED. I would hardly consider a controversial political blogger the voice of the conservative right. Im sure if someone posted something some liberal blogger said that was controversial and then claimed it as an outcry of the liberal left you would be the first one to discredit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:50 PM) thread timeline: post article from Huffington Post saying "conservatives" want ad removed because scarf looks arab people respond in disagreement post link from a website called crooks and liars showing McCains daughter wearing similar scarf and calling her a terrorist sympathizer wait for anyone to say anything negative about Obama, especially anything mentioning terrorism, to discredit source... Excellent Sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 29, 2008 -> 02:41 PM) I would hardly consider a controversial political blogger the voice of the conservative right. Im sure if someone posted something some liberal blogger said that was controversial and then claimed it as an outcry of the liberal left you would be the first one to discredit it. Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Malkin all have large followings in this country and they represent a pretty sizable portion of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 29, 2008 -> 12:10 PM) Forget the link he provided and use this one. http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi...0,6304563.story Im not saying it wasnt said. Im saying that its in poor taste to try and somehow use this to generalize the right. When the biggest name they use as a critic of the ad is a political blogger, Michelle Malkin, maybe take the news for what its worth, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Malkin all have large followings in this country and they represent a pretty sizable portion of the population.Good point. From now on throw out anything McCain or any real politician says and draw conclusions from some of the most extreme opinions in the media. Just because these people have large followings doesnt mean that their opinions are all of a sudden the voice of the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Honestly, both the far left and the far right are pretty easy to generalize. They all tend to think and act the same, and if I was reading an argument somewhere I could probably predict a response/reaction with about 95% accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) Honestly, both the far left and the far right are pretty easy to generalize. They all tend to think and act the same, and if I was reading an argument somewhere I could probably predict a response/reaction with about 95% accuracy. I agree for the most part. When it comes to things like terrorism though I think its in very poor taste to pull an article that talks about something as stupid as this one did and then to assume that because the person that said it is from the far right that every conservative agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 For Example: In his April 11, 2008 New Rules segment, Maher made a number of anti-catholic remarks, in particular, drawing comparison lines between cults and religions ("If you have a few hundred followers, and you let some of them molest children, they call you a cult leader. If you have a billion, they call you Pope."), calling Catholic Church the "Bear Stearns of organized pedophilia", and calling Pope Benedict XVI a Nazi ("he used to be a Nazi and he wears funny hats!") alluding to his mandatory adolescent involvement with Hitler Youth. Since Bill Maher is a liberal, is it fair to apply his thoughts on Christianity to Obama and say he is a member of a cult that promotes pedophilia and he is under the control of a Nazi Pope? The same way that Malkins comments about a terrorist scarf were used about McCains daughter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Eh, I don't see anywhere that Athomeboy made a generalization like that except to be sarcastic and talk about how ridiculous the whole thing is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 (edited) who cares about dunkin donuts! check this out! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/a...e_n_104043.html "It shows an extraterrestrial's head popping up outside of a window at night, looking in the window, that's visible through an infrared camera," Edited May 29, 2008 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 29, 2008 -> 02:08 PM) who cares about dunkin donuts! check this out! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/a...e_n_104043.html I thought I saw that movie the other night but it turned out I was just watching the Eastern Conference Finals and it was Sam Cassell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 29, 2008 -> 02:17 PM) I thought I saw that movie the other night but it turned out I was just watching the Eastern Conference Finals and it was Sam Cassell. i can see how someone would make that mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ May 29, 2008 -> 02:05 PM) Since Bill Maher is a liberal, is it fair to apply his thoughts on Christianity to Obama and say he is a member of a cult that promotes pedophilia and he is under the control of a Nazi Pope? It would be more fair to do so if Obama was actually Roman Catholic. The excerpt you posted had Maher specifically targeting Roman Catholics and not broader christianity. Obama's church is part of United Church of Christ, so the Pope has no authority there whether he's a Nazi or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:23 PM) It would be more fair to do so if Obama was actually Roman Catholic. The excerpt you posted had Maher specifically targeting Roman Catholics and not broader christianity. Obama's church is part of United Church of Christ, so the Pope has no authority there whether he's a Nazi or not. Obama's version of the Pope: at least he doesn't wear a funny hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:08 PM) who cares about dunkin donuts! check this out! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/a...e_n_104043.html *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 29, 2008 -> 03:30 PM) Obama's version of the Pope: at least he doesn't wear a funny hat It's the funny hat that makes the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 29, 2008 -> 01:23 PM) It would be more fair to do so if Obama was actually Roman Catholic. The excerpt you posted had Maher specifically targeting Roman Catholics and not broader christianity. Obama's church is part of United Church of Christ, so the Pope has no authority there whether he's a Nazi or not. The example wasnt really anything that I was trying to seriously propose at being true. It was just a quick example of why people shouldnt be held to the standards of the most vocal and controversial members of their political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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