6/1 Games

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Richmond (28-27) @ Charlotte (20-35)

Brad Nelson (1-1, 8.44) vs. Jack Egbert (0-4, 7.55)

1:15 PM CT

 

Birmingham (33-23) @ Mississippi (22-34)

Kyle McCulloch (3-4, 3.84) vs. James Parr (3-4, 4.84)

1:05 PM CT

 

Winston-Salem (24-30) @ Salem (24-31)

John Ely (1-6, 4.18) vs. Corey Bass (2-4, 4.50)

1:07 PM CT

 

Kannapolis (25-30) vs. Lexington (17-37)

Nathan Jones (1-6, 8.14) vs. Carlos Ladeuth (1-5, 4.39)

5:05 PM CT

 

 

 

[bighurt4life]

Winson-Salem wins 4-3 Retheford goes yard for second day in a row 11 hr on the season

 

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B-Ham wins 7-4 David Cook homers #11 on season OPS up to 1.080 Link with his 15th save on the season his era is at 1.96. Nice pickup in exchange for Mackowiak

 

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Charlotte wins 8-2 Egbert has a nice game 7.0 1 ER 0BB 4K Russell goes 2 IP and only give up one hit, his ERA down to 1.73

 

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Kanny loses 7-6 Estill gets his first BB of the season to go with 15K's

 

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Edited June 2, 2008 by bighurt4life

[witesoxfan]

about f***ing time Egbert does something

[NorthSideSox72]

LOL, David Cook's OBP is .479. He reached base 2 times in 5 plate appearances yesterday and his OBP actually went down.

 

[scenario]

Brad Eldred has 19 homeruns in 55 games.

 

Since the chances of him getting called up are relatively small, it's going to be interesting to see how many HRs he puts up in Charlotte this year.

Edited June 2, 2008 by scenario

[scenario]

CJ Retherford is hitting .371 (13 for 35) over his last 10 games... including getting hits in 9 of those 10 games.

 

His 13 hits include 2 doubles and 5 homeruns.

Edited June 2, 2008 by scenario

[NorthSideSox72]

CJ Retherford is hitting .371 over his last 10 games... including getting hits in 9 of those 10 games.

I remember a number of people last year saying Retherford's numbers at GF were a fluke, he wasn't destined for anything good. No one can say for sure what his future holds, but, let's put this in perspective - after putting up a 1.002 OPS in GF in 2007, he skipped both Bristol and Kanny to go to High A W-S, and he's now got an .810 OPS with 11 homeruns in 52 games. His walk total is a bit low - that's a concern - but overall, for a 22 year old that made a 2 level jump, I'd say he's worth keeping an eye on.

 

[BearSox]

I remember a number of people last year saying Retherford's numbers at GF were a fluke, he wasn't destined for anything good. No one can say for sure what his future holds, but, let's put this in perspective - after putting up a 1.002 OPS in GF in 2007, he skipped both Bristol and Kanny to go to High A W-S, and he's now got an .810 OPS with 11 homeruns in 52 games. His walk total is a bit low - that's a concern - but overall, for a 22 year old that made a 2 level jump, I'd say he's worth keeping an eye on.

Best case scenario with him is a very, very, extremely poor man's Brandon Inge, IMO. However, I'd gladly take someone on our bench who can hit w/ a little pop and play all over the field with decent D.

[witesoxfan]

I remember a number of people last year saying Retherford's numbers at GF were a fluke, he wasn't destined for anything good. No one can say for sure what his future holds, but, let's put this in perspective - after putting up a 1.002 OPS in GF in 2007, he skipped both Bristol and Kanny to go to High A W-S, and he's now got an .810 OPS with 11 homeruns in 52 games. His walk total is a bit low - that's a concern - but overall, for a 22 year old that made a 2 level jump, I'd say he's worth keeping an eye on.

 

Not a huge point, but I've always understood that Bristol is the lowest rookie league team, meaning he skipped just Kanny to go to W-S.

[scenario]

Best case scenario with him is a very, very, extremely poor man's Brandon Inge, IMO. However, I'd gladly take someone on our bench who can hit w/ a little pop and play all over the field with decent D.

 

What crystal ball did you look in to dig up that comparison?

 

Brandon Inge has never hit squat at any level he's ever played at. Inge is Juan Uribe as a third baseman... good glove... a little pop in his bat... can't get on base to save his life.

 

Meanwhile, Retherford has more homeruns in less than a half season this year than Inge had in any full-season in the minors.

Edited June 2, 2008 by scenario

[NorthSideSox72]

Not a huge point, but I've always understood that Bristol is the lowest rookie league team, meaning he skipped just Kanny to go to W-S.

OK, so, I guess he skipped Bristol straight away? either way, he jumped two levels in his first two seasons.

 

[NorthSideSox72]

Best case scenario with him is a very, very, extremely poor man's Brandon Inge, IMO. However, I'd gladly take someone on our bench who can hit w/ a little pop and play all over the field with decent D.

What leads you to that conclusion? I see no similarity in their numbers. And I don't think Retherford is known for the glove anyway. Are you privy to some scouting reports or something?

 

[BearSox]

What leads you to that conclusion? I see no similarity in their numbers. And I don't think Retherford is known for the glove anyway. Are you privy to some scouting reports or something?

From what I have read, Retherford is very athletic and very baseball smart. I don't know if his bat is similar to Inge's, but from the defensive standpoint, they seem very similar, IMO. Retherford in college played 3B, C, 1B, 2B, SS, OF and even maybe P here or there. That shows great athleticism. I have a hard time seeing him being much of a hitter if he ever gets to the bigs, but his ability to play everywhere and pure athleticism should allow him to being a good bench player.

[NorthSideSox72]

From what I have read, Retherford is very athletic and very baseball smart. I don't know if his bat is similar to Inge's, but from the defensive standpoint, they seem very similar, IMO. Retherford in college played 3B, C, 1B, 2B, SS, OF and even maybe P here or there. That shows great athleticism. I have a hard time seeing him being much of a hitter if he ever gets to the bigs, but his ability to play everywhere and pure athleticism should allow him to being a good bench player.

You keep saying these things about his hitting, like he isn't going to hit in the bigs, and comparing him to Inge... again, what leads you to these conclusions? So far, he seems to be hitting quite well while moving up. What leads you to have such a negative view of his hitting?

 

[BearSox]

You keep saying these things about his hitting, like he isn't going to hit in the bigs, and comparing him to Inge... again, what leads you to these conclusions? So far, he seems to be hitting quite well while moving up. What leads you to have such a negative view of his hitting?

Just a hunch... I could very well be completely incorrect.

[BearSox]

So you're making these predictions and projections off a hunch that you have from a guy that you have never seen play??

For guys I have never seen before, all I have to go off are stats and just intuition.

[Chisoxfn]

Bear, I want to point out, that its hard to have any sort of intuition on anyone without at least seeing them play or reading scouting reports (stats are not something you can really infur off of, unless you are going strictly by the cover and stating guys over such and such OPS are good, guys with a WHIP of X are good.

 

Not saying anything is wrong, just saying sometimes you may want to gut check some of the ballsy statements (or just preface it by stating its based on nothing more than a gut feeling).

 

That said, I love your enthusiasm when it comes to the farm and it spurs some very good debate/discussion on here. Plus, as anyone whose been here for a while knows, I've made my fair share of bold, completely based on gut posts (see practically every guarantee I've ever made regarding who I think the Sox will trade for, LOL).

 

I know for me, I stated my opinions on Fields and get bold but I try to back them up based on what I've seen (mixed in with the fact that everyone on these boards has come to realize I hate guys that hit .250 and strike out 150 times (no matter how many freaking hr's they hit, well, if they hit 50 plus, I'll put up with it, LOL). Or If I haven't seen a guy and I'm basing it off what I've read, I try to include that information.

 

Anyway, enough of these, lets figure out who the hell the Sox are going to draft and hope like hell he's going to be a superstar (and hopefully we get plenty of good players in the remaining rounds).

[BearSox]

Bear, I want to point out, that its hard to have any sort of intuition on anyone without at least seeing them play or reading scouting reports (stats are not something you can really infur off of, unless you are going strictly by the cover and stating guys over such and such OPS are good, guys with a WHIP of X are good.

 

Not saying anything is wrong, just saying sometimes you may want to gut check some of the ballsy statements (or just preface it by stating its based on nothing more than a gut feeling).

 

That said, I love your enthusiasm when it comes to the farm and it spurs some very good debate/discussion on here. Plus, as anyone whose been here for a while knows, I've made my fair share of bold, completely based on gut posts (see practically every guarantee I've ever made regarding who I think the Sox will trade for, LOL).

 

I know for me, I stated my opinions on Fields and get bold but I try to back them up based on what I've seen (mixed in with the fact that everyone on these boards has come to realize I hate guys that hit .250 and strike out 150 times (no matter how many freaking hr's they hit, well, if they hit 50 plus, I'll put up with it, LOL). Or If I haven't seen a guy and I'm basing it off what I've read, I try to include that information.

 

Anyway, enough of these, lets figure out who the hell the Sox are going to draft and hope like hell he's going to be a superstar (and hopefully we get plenty of good players in the remaining rounds).

 

Well, the only thing I've read about Retherford talked about his athleticism, how he could play anywhere on the field, and his baseball smarts. First name that popped into my head was Inge when I read that about him. I have a hard time seeing him become a major force with the bat, but with his athleticism, baseball IQ, and ability to play everywhere, he can make it as a bench player, IMO.

 

I doubt anyone here has ever really seen Retherford, so any prediction I make is as bold as any prediction anyone else makes.

[Chisoxfn]

Well, the only thing I've read about Retherford talked about his athleticism, how he could play anywhere on the field, and his baseball smarts. First name that popped into my head was Inge when I read that about him. I have a hard time seeing him become a major force with the bat, but with his athleticism, baseball IQ, and ability to play everywhere, he can make it as a bench player, IMO.

 

I doubt anyone here has ever really seen Retherford, so any prediction I make is as bold as any prediction anyone else makes.

You are probably right on Retherford. I think a lot of us here base things on reports read and than some sort of statistical analysis. In the past I could say I'd seen a very large chunk of our players play, but less now than before (as I haven't seen any of the Sox affiliates play in the past 2 years). The extent of what I've seen is guys in college/highschool, youtube clips, and the ocassional MILB game I watch (that and the ocassional emails I shoot out to some people I've met in the organization based upon past minor league visits I've made.

 

So you definately aren't in the minority. Heck, aside from the big boys at BA, most anyone writing about the minors haven't seen the guys play more than a couple times (and often times your opinion is largely dependent on how that guy was doing in very limited action, which isn't exactly indicative of a good asseessment necessarily).