BigSqwert Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Wire service: “Hillary Rodham Clinton will concede Tuesday night that Barack Obama has the delegates to secure the Democratic nomination, campaign officials said, effectively ending her bid to be the nation’s first female president.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 A little more detail, from the Trib: Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York will concede tonight that Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois has the delegates needed to secure the Democratic Party's 2008 presidential nomination, campaign officials are telling the Associated Press. "The former first lady will stop short of formally suspending or ending her race in her speech in New York City'' tonight, the AP's Beth Fouhy reports. "She will pledge to continue to speak out on issues like health care. But for all intents and purposes, two senior officials said, the campaign is over.'' Most campaign staff will be let go and will be paid through June 15, according to the officials who spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity. Terry McAuliffe, the campaign chairman, said publicly on NBC's Today show today that once Obama has the number of delegates needed for the nomination Clinton will indeed congratulate him and "call him the nominee.'' Interesting that I don't see anything there about an endorsement. She really is more interested in her own political career than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) Only about a month and a half too late. At least when Huckabee did it, he wasn't really doing any intentional damage. Edited June 3, 2008 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 posted this in the Obama thread, but cnn.com has a story from Clinton's camp saying it's not true and she intends to continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:47 AM) posted this in the Obama thread, but cnn.com has a story from Clinton's camp saying it's not true and she intends to continue That'd be more in line with what that moron has been doing thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:51 AM) That'd be more in line with what that moron has been doing thus far. But I saw on drudge that Obama is getting a ton of supers today, so it might be a moot point http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10792.html Edited June 3, 2008 by SoxFan562004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 09:47 AM) posted this in the Obama thread, but cnn.com has a story from Clinton's camp saying it's not true and she intends to continue If you read the details, it is true, but also not true. She will concede that he has the delegates and has clinched the win - because he will, so she has to. Heck, McAuliffe even acknowledged it. But, also, she will continue to campaign, for reasons that (IMO) can only be construed as her furthering her 2012 campaign chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) If you read the details, it is true, but also not true. She will concede that he has the delegates and has clinched the win - because he will, so she has to. Heck, McAuliffe even acknowledged it. But, also, she will continue to campaign, for reasons that (IMO) can only be construed as her furthering her 2012 campaign chances. yeah, I had an extra minute and read it and the link I put on above is basically saying the same thing. Well, that's just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 CNN update on McAuliffe's denial. You have to read beyond the bluster, and see some key words there - that Obama doesn't have the numbers, YET. So of course he is saying this. When he does have the numbers, tonight or tomorrow, you'll see Clinton do some sort of concession. Unfortunately, it will probably be half-ass and petty, like everything else in her campaign has been. She won't endorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:04 AM) CNN update on McAuliffe's denial. You have to read beyond the bluster, and see some key words there - that Obama doesn't have the numbers, YET. So of course he is saying this. When he does have the numbers, tonight or tomorrow, you'll see Clinton do some sort of concession. Unfortunately, it will probably be half-ass and petty, like everything else in her campaign has been. She won't endorse. yeah of course not. I imagine she hopes McCain beats Obama and then she can trash him for the next 4 years so she looks good in 2012 Any idea on what Obama would do if he loses to McCain? Would he stay in the Senate or would he try for gov of Il? I imagine Blago doesn't have another run in him Edited June 3, 2008 by SoxFan562004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) Any idea on what Obama would do if he loses to McCain? He will continue with his plans for a jihad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:14 AM) He will continue with his plans for a jihad. Isn't that the real reason why he left the church? Isn't he jihad'ing us? Nice one, BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) yeah of course not. I imagine she hopes McCain beats Obama and then she can trash him for the next 4 years so she looks good in 2012 Any idea on what Obama would do if he loses to McCain? Would he stay in the Senate or would he try for gov of Il? I imagine Blago doesn't have another run in him According to Obama himself, the run for President was a one-time bargain with his wife. Supposedly. After that, he said, not again. Of course, we've heard that sort of line before, and they sometimes come back anyway. Or, like with Colin Powell, maybe Obama really means it. Hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:04 AM) CNN update on McAuliffe's denial. You have to read beyond the bluster, and see some key words there - that Obama doesn't have the numbers, YET. So of course he is saying this. When he does have the numbers, tonight or tomorrow, you'll see Clinton do some sort of concession. Unfortunately, it will probably be half-ass and petty, like everything else in her campaign has been. She won't endorse. Ah, yes the good old Clinton era... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:21 AM) According to Obama himself, the run for President was a one-time bargain with his wife. Supposedly. After that, he said, not again. Of course, we've heard that sort of line before, and they sometimes come back anyway. Or, like with Colin Powell, maybe Obama really means it. Hard to say. He also said for a long LONG time that he wasn't going to run at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 11:04 AM) CNN update on McAuliffe's denial. You have to read beyond the bluster, and see some key words there - that Obama doesn't have the numbers, YET. So of course he is saying this. When he does have the numbers, tonight or tomorrow, you'll see Clinton do some sort of concession. Unfortunately, it will probably be half-ass and petty, like everything else in her campaign has been. She won't endorse. Hilary... JUST... GO.... AWAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 Hillary will acknowledge that Barack has the delegates. I don't know if she will drop out and I really doubt she'll endorse him. She can still keep it up, trying to ply away pledged delegates, superdelegates, whining about this and that, etc. so that she keeps beating up Barack and gives herself a better opening for a 2012 run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:29 AM) Hillary will acknowledge that Barack has the delegates. I don't know if she will drop out and I really doubt she'll endorse him. She can still keep it up, trying to ply away pledged delegates, superdelegates, whining about this and that, etc. so that she keeps beating up Barack and gives herself a better opening for a 2012 run. She HAS to endorse him once he wins. It would be political suicide not to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 09:30 AM) She HAS to endorse him once he wins. It would be political suicide not to do so. Not necessarily. It's entirely possible she could be thinking "if Obama fails to take out McCain, we have another 4 years of disastrous Republican wars and mismanagement of the country, and there'll be a gigantic backlash within the party against the factions that helped Obama win the nomination and lose the general." In other words, she can play for 2012 and say "haha you made a mistake listening to the kids now vote for me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 10:32 AM) Not necessarily. It's entirely possible she could be thinking "if Obama fails to take out McCain, we have another 4 years of disastrous Republican wars and mismanagement of the country, and there'll be a gigantic backlash within the party against the factions that helped Obama win the nomination and lose the general." In other words, she can play for 2012 and say "haha you made a mistake listening to the kids now vote for me!" And turn into Joe Liberman? Not gonna happen. After screwing her party for so long, she has to fall in line or she has no support from the Dems in '12. She knows that. She has already turned into a pariah in her party, if she didn't have the decency to support her parties nominee, she is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 3, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) She HAS to endorse him once he wins. It would be political suicide not to do so. Oh, she'll endorse him after the convention for sure. I don't see her doing it before then, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 Obama clinches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 http://thepage.time.com/2008/06/03/ap-obama-clinches/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 3, 2008 Author Share Posted June 3, 2008 I'd also like to add... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 3, 2008 Share Posted June 3, 2008 For the first time in a while, I'll actually be watching the political coverage on TV this evening. I think the two speeches that will be made should be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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