knightni Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Ladies and gentlemen, can I please have your attention. I've just been handed an urgent and horrifying news story. I need all of you, to stop what you're doing and listen. Cannonball! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (DBAH0 @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 10:00 AM) So would Wasserman get sent down, Loaiza becomes the long - man, and Masset moves into Wasserman's role in the pen perhaps? That makes complete sense..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 10:53 AM) Why on earth would the Sox sign him? Well it's been pretty obvious they really like Masset and the work he's done this year, and we've seen him a few times in the 6th and 7th now. By doing this, you can send Wassermann back to triple a, give the spot Masset used to have (long relief) to Loaiza, and use Masset in the 6th or 7th if you need him or if Dotel needs a night off. Makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Interesting. I thought Ozzie absolutely hated Loaiza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 09:39 AM) This has got to be an insurance move, or shoring up Charlotte. I don't see where the guy fits on our roster right now, unless someone is hurt. Well, I've been of the opinion that Danks has to be limited to about 160 or so innings this year including the playoffs, otherwise you really risk pushing him too hard and having him go down for an extended period. He's pitching well enough that stopping him might well require shutting him down for a couple weeks. This would be another option for a couple of #5 starter type spot starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 01:03 PM) Interesting. I thought Ozzie absolutely hated Loaiza? No, he loves latinos, he hates whites. Remember? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjm676 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 I've seen him in the NL, he's a pretty good hitter. Maybe he is replacing Thome or Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) No, he loves latinos, he hates whites. Remember? Right, right. Seriously though, didn't Ozzie call him out for his lack of preparation or for being lazy, or something along those lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokimar Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Maybe he is replacing Masset and Masset will be sent down to get stretched out. I have been pretty impressed with him so far this year so stretching him out and giving him a chance could allow us to trade a starter for some offense?? I'm not saying its a good idea.. the thought did cross my mind though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 What is odd is why wouldn't other teams be able to offer him a starting rotation spot. Really low risk / high reward....... Look at he Yanks, sign him and move Joba back to the pen. Maybe he really liked it here and wanted to return for some reason. Hell, he would at least be a .500 pitcher guaranteed in the NL. For an inning or two, Loaiza could be as effective as anyone out of the pen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted June 4, 2008 Author Share Posted June 4, 2008 Masset is out of options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) Interesting. I thought Ozzie absolutely hated Loaiza? Kenny stickin' it to him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokimar Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (Steff @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 11:13 AM) Masset is out of options. Ohh, I thought he had one more option left. I guess it was Mac with one option left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 09:13 AM) Maybe he really liked it here and wanted to return for some reason. Hell, with the way he performed here last time, unless there was some other chemical reason helping him, I wouldn't blame him for going back here to try to rescue his career either. Now all we need is to have him put together another 20 game winning season and then swap him to the Yankees for a pitcher that they've soured on (That guy Hughes is starting to fit the bill....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 05:13 PM) What is odd is why wouldn't other teams be able to offer him a starting rotation spot. Really low risk / high reward....... Look at he Yanks, sign him and move Joba back to the pen. Maybe he really liked it here and wanted to return for some reason. Hell, he would at least be a .500 pitcher guaranteed in the NL. For an inning or two, Loaiza could be as effective as anyone out of the pen The Yanks sure loved Loaiza when he was there. Has anyone actually seen Loaiza pitch this year? His fastball was in the mid 80s when I saw it, and he had very little in terms of offspeed pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 Maybe Massett and another player in a trade of some sort.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokimar Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 12:16 PM) The Yanks sure loved Loaiza when he was there. Has anyone actually seen Loaiza pitch this year? His fastball was in the mid 80s when I saw it, and he had very little in terms of offspeed pitches. The rumors must be true, he was brought in to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie hayes Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 01:11 PM) Right, right. Seriously though, didn't Ozzie call him out for his lack of preparation or for being lazy, or something along those lines? I don't remember that. This was all I could find: http://media.www.dailyvidette.com/media/st...ox-635686.shtml Guillen had been disappointed with the way the 21-game winner from last season has gone about his business on the mound this spring, and expressed that after his start last week. Is that what you mean? Eh...by Guillen's standards, it's almost encouragement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokimar Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 11:23 AM) I don't remember that. This was all I could find: http://media.www.dailyvidette.com/media/st...ox-635686.shtml Is that what you mean? Eh...by Guillen's standards, it's almost encouragement. Guillen didnt drop any swear words?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 12:16 PM) The Yanks sure loved Loaiza when he was there. Has anyone actually seen Loaiza pitch this year? His fastball was in the mid 80s when I saw it, and he had very little in terms of offspeed pitches. Wasn't he injured? Maybe he is done then as I have not seen him but was going by last season more than this when he was at least servicable. Edited June 4, 2008 by Jenks Heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 05:25 PM) Wasn't he injured? Maybe he is done then as I have not seen him but was goinn by last season more than this whenhe was at least servicable. Serviceable? His ERA was close to 9 with the Dodgers. Edited June 4, 2008 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (Steff @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) Just signed to a 1 year deal. Can he catch lightening in a bottle twice... I like this deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (jackie hayes @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 06:07 PM) No, he loves latinos, he hates whites. Remember? Should be in green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 05:02 PM) I'd rather have Wassermann on the team than Loaiza. I saw him pitch a few games for the Dodgers the past few years, and his stuff was below average. I like Loaiza though, so I hope he can revive his career. I think Loiaza is a beter option. he can do long relief with Massett, releif or spot start when needed. During the heat of a long pennant race I am thinking a guy like Loiaza can really help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCSox Posted June 4, 2008 Share Posted June 4, 2008 QUOTE (Steff @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 08:58 AM) Long relief would be my guess. Regardless, it never hurts to have some insurance. And at the league minimum is a plus. Absolutely QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2008 -> 09:02 AM) I'd rather have Wassermann on the team than Loaiza. I saw him pitch a few games for the Dodgers the past few years, and his stuff was below average. Just about anything would be an improvement over Wassermann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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