witesoxfan Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 anywhere from 823 BC to 2008 AD I don't consider those earlier than 823 BC to be baseball managers. Too violent and rude to the public /waits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Tom Kelly. The man won two titles with a minimal salary budget, Kirby Puckett, Frank Viola and some fillins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Ozzie Guillen. The man who can start winning streaks just by cursing about imaginary deadlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 mike scioscia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 07:51 AM) mike scioscia Why is this in green? Scioscia is a pretty good manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Sparky Anderson or Joe Torre. I actually think Gardenhire is the best right now, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 terry bevington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotop Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Earl Weaver. He was all about sabermetrics before it was cool, man. (But seriously, Weaver was damn good judging by what I've read...as I'm obviously not old enough to remember him in action) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 08:32 AM) Why is this in green? Scioscia is a pretty good manager I was mocking Orlando Cabrera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Much as I despise him personally, I think Tony LaRussa has to be in this discussion. Very few have been able to do more with less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 09:03 AM) Much as I despise him personally, I think Tony LaRussa has to be in this discussion. Very few have been able to do more with less. Less than guys like Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter, Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Dennis Eckersley, Rickey Henderson, Dave Stewart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:11 AM) Less than guys like Albert Pujols, Chris Carpenter, Mark McGwire, Jose Canseco, Dennis Eckersley, Rickey Henderson, Dave Stewart? lol. the guy has managed over 30 years....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 QUOTE (Hatchetman @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 09:26 AM) lol. the guy has managed over 30 years....... Very true...but if you're going to give him credit for doing "More with less", I think that it's a valid point that when he's done the most, he's had some of the best, most juiced up players in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:38 AM) Very true...but if you're going to give him credit for doing "More with less", I think that it's a valid point that when he's done the most, he's had some of the best, most juiced up players in history. Over his career, sure, he's had some greats. But looking at his TEAMS, up and down, I think he's among the best modern managers in taking teams beyond what they seemed capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Connie Mack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Al Lopez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Pratt Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Walter Alston deserves to be mentioned. Bobby Cox. John McGraw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) Before it's all said and done, Bobby Cox's name should be brought into the discussion. I don't care how good their scouting supposedly is. 14 first place finishes in 15 years is unbelievable. Edited June 10, 2008 by scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Dusty Baker and Jerry Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 9, 2008 -> 10:38 AM) Very true...but if you're going to give him credit for doing "More with less", I think that it's a valid point that when he's done the most, he's had some of the best, most juiced up players in history. I give LaRussa a ton of credit for thinking outside the box and hiring a former catcher as his pitching coach in Dave Duncan. Dave Stewart and Dennis Eckersley wouldn't be who they were without LaRussa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurlyMan56 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Bobby Cox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 um, no one managers don't really do s*** IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 (edited) I'm not sure if it's fair, but I eliminate Yankee managers from this list because of how much talent they always had. Any idiot could manage that team throughout the vast majority of their history IMO. However, I can't just pick one. If I had to make a short list though, it'd include Bobby Cox, Tony La Russa, John McGraw, Sparky Anderson, and Walter Alston. Edited June 10, 2008 by whitesoxfan101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Over the short term, Billy Martin was a damn good manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The Bev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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