quickman Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Looks like the Loaiza experiment is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 That was fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sircaffey Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Good, Loaiza had no business pitching for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 08:42 PM) Good, Loaiza had no business pitching for this team. You know fathom, I think they are looking for a veteran. when your in a race, you want veterans not rookies. You want people who know situations. I think they were looking for leadership and a stable presence. We don't know what we will get with russell. I hope its good, in the meantime, the sox will continue to look for more veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 One thing about Adam Russell, he comes right at you and isn't afraid of the bat, like MacDougal. His control hasn't been the best in AAA though, he's been walking a guy every other inning. I like him and hopefully he contributes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 07:47 PM) One thing about Adam Russell, he comes right at you and isn't afraid of the bat, like MacDougal. His control hasn't been the best in AAA though, he's been walking a guy every other inning. I like him and hopefully he contributes. If he ends up being a mop up guy like loiaza then who cares, I just think as the time wears on they will want a veteran guy. they will be available after this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Well that's a bit surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 He obviously had nothing left velocity wise. Was worth a shot though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Was Loaiza that bad?? I haven't been able to watch any games since we picked him up, but it seemed like he was doing okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 06:53 PM) Was Loaiza that bad?? I haven't been able to watch any games since we picked him up, but it seemed like he was doing okay. He hasn't pitched much in games...it must have simply been a matter of him working with Cooper and the team deciding based on that advice that they were better off with the kid. Can Russell pitch more than 1 inning if needed? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29andPoplar Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 If he ends up being a mop up guy like loiaza then who cares, I just think as the time wears on they will want a veteran guy. they will be available after this month. If not already. Tons of reclamation projects available as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 It was Loaiza's fault the team was swept in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 08:55 PM) He hasn't pitched much in games...it must have simply been a matter of him working with Cooper and the team deciding based on that advice that they were better off with the kid. Can Russell pitch more than 1 inning if needed? Anyone know? He's averaging more than 1.1 IP per appearance in AAA this season and he used to be a starter, so I'd say the answer'd be "yeah" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (29andPoplar @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 07:55 PM) If not already. Tons of reclamation projects available as we speak. just stay away from tomko, I am sure they won't bite because AJ will probably blow his head off, but that guy could be on my list of one of the worst pitchers who has nine lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearSox Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 These was probably a tryout, and his severe lack of velocity and stuff was not able to net him a spot in the pen. Russell is better anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (quickman @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 08:50 PM) If he ends up being a mop up guy like loiaza then who cares, I just think as the time wears on they will want a veteran guy. they will be available after this month. Paging Freddy Garcia... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Call it a guess, but I think it had nothing to do with lack of velocity. I think it was a lack of work ethic that got him traded in the first place.. Seriously, how many twenty game winning, Cy Young runners up get traded the next season? We brought him in to see if he was willing to work like 03, he wasn't, so they cut him. Maybe I am wrong, but there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. The Sox just don't dump people THAT quickly unless there is an alterior motive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 07:04 PM) Call it a guess, but I think it had nothing to do with lack of velocity. I think it was a lack of work ethic that got him traded in the first place.. Seriously, how many twenty game winning, Cy Young runners up get traded the next season? We brought him in to see if he was willing to work like 03, he wasn't, so they cut him. Maybe I am wrong, but there is something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about. The Sox just don't dump people THAT quickly unless there is an alterior motive. Well, he was also a Free Agent at the end of the year he was traded, and he'd clearly lost something if you paid attention to the first half games at all. There was plenty of reason to trade him at that point, especially if you didn't think you'd be able to sign him or if you didn't want to (and man, what a move not signing him was). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitewashed in '05 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 10:06 PM) Well, he was also a Free Agent at the end of the year he was traded, and he'd clearly lost something if you paid attention to the first half games at all. There was plenty of reason to trade him at that point, especially if you didn't think you'd be able to sign him or if you didn't want to (and man, what a move not signing him was). The Yankees fleeced us what are you talking about... according to ESPN at the time of the trade ofcourse. Edited June 13, 2008 by Whitewashed in '05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (Chet Lemon @ Jun 12, 2008 -> 08:00 PM) It was Loaiza's fault the team was swept in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I just don't get it. Do they not have scouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Sad to see him go, he sounded happy to be back. I think down the road we could've made him useful, (especially at the motel 6 rate we were getting him at) if only for mopup duties. I've only caught one of the games he's pitched, but in the inning I think he allowed only one baserunner. Nothing jumped up and screamed CUT HIM! at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 13, 2008 -> 12:22 AM) I just don't get it. Do they not have scouts? They do but Coop and his magic defy scouting. Edited June 13, 2008 by ChiSox35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 I know you're being sarcastic, but did they think he was waiting to pull out his 95 mph cutter for us or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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