SpringfieldFan Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ok, back to the "knock your socks off" trade rumor. I have heard a lot of opinions on who people think would be involved in the trade. I would just like to add my own predictions FWIW (which ain't much!). Forget about the Buehrle for Drew rumor. I don't think this will happen but I can envision a similar trade with the birds. St. Louis is starved for pitching, both in the rotation and in late relief. The Sox are much improved with Everette's bat, but face it, he is not a true center fielder. Therefore, I can see the Sox sending Buerhle to St. Louis for Jim Edmonds. Edmonds is as near a perfect center fielder as you will find and would be perfect in Chicago, allowing Everette to either play left (Lee to DH) or to DH himself. Losing him is a steep price for the Cards, but getting a 2004 Cy Young candidate with contract time left could be awfully tempting for them. If not, KW might just include a reliever as well to help the Cards' late inning woes. Do you think such a deal would be possible and would you approve? I can picture it happening, although I don't know if I like the idea or not. Losing Buehrle this year would be tough, but the rest of the rotation has stepped up and Edmonds would be perfect in the Sox lineup. Maybe if they could acquire someone like a Ponson the deal would be worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkdog Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 While I'd love to have Edmonds, this deal only oppens up a new hole in the pitching staff. Buehrle has won 5 straight, we need that arm to win the division and play deep in the playoffs. If you could find a way to get Edmonds w/o Buehrle it's going to be very expensive. And I don't think the Cards would do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ok, back to the "knock your socks off" trade rumor. I have heard a lot of opinions on who people think would be involved in the trade. I would just like to add my own predictions FWIW (which ain't much!). Forget about the Buehrle for Drew rumor. I don't think this will happen but I can envision a similar trade with the birds. St. Louis is starved for pitching, both in the rotation and in late relief. The Sox are much improved with Everette's bat, but face it, he is not a true center fielder. Therefore, I can see the Sox sending Buerhle to St. Louis for Jim Edmonds. Edmonds is as near a perfect center fielder as you will find and would be perfect in Chicago, allowing Everette to either play left (Lee to DH) or to DH himself. Losing him is a steep price for the Cards, but getting a 2004 Cy Young candidate with contract time left could be awfully tempting for them. If not, KW might just include a reliever as well to help the Cards' late inning woes. Do you think such a deal would be possible and would you approve? I can picture it happening, although I don't know if I like the idea or not. Losing Buehrle this year would be tough, but the rest of the rotation has stepped up and Edmonds would be perfect in the Sox lineup. Maybe if they could acquire someone like a Ponson the deal would be worthwhile. MB for Edmonds would be a terrible trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringfieldFan Posted July 8, 2003 Author Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ok, back to the "knock your socks off" trade rumor. I have heard a lot of opinions on who people think would be involved in the trade. I would just like to add my own predictions FWIW (which ain't much!). Forget about the Buehrle for Drew rumor. I don't think this will happen but I can envision a similar trade with the birds. St. Louis is starved for pitching, both in the rotation and in late relief. The Sox are much improved with Everette's bat, but face it, he is not a true center fielder. Therefore, I can see the Sox sending Buerhle to St. Louis for Jim Edmonds. Edmonds is as near a perfect center fielder as you will find and would be perfect in Chicago, allowing Everette to either play left (Lee to DH) or to DH himself. Losing him is a steep price for the Cards, but getting a 2004 Cy Young candidate with contract time left could be awfully tempting for them. If not, KW might just include a reliever as well to help the Cards' late inning woes. Do you think such a deal would be possible and would you approve? I can picture it happening, although I don't know if I like the idea or not. Losing Buehrle this year would be tough, but the rest of the rotation has stepped up and Edmonds would be perfect in the Sox lineup. Maybe if they could acquire someone like a Ponson the deal would be worthwhile. MB for Edmonds would be a terrible trade better then MB for Drew though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Irish Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 As great as Edmonds would be to have both offensively and defensively, we need MB now more than ever. He is pitching as good as he ever has right now and with a weak schedule to finish the month we need his arm to take advantage right now. Also with out his arm, we can't expect to win a lot of series in august and sept. without selliong the farm for another ace. That might upset the current chemistry. He was there in 2000 and knows what it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 No way. MB will be with the Sox for quite a while. If there would be a trade, it would most likely be in the off season. MB will probably be our best pitcher for the balance of 2003. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmr31 Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ok, back to the "knock your socks off" trade rumor. I have heard a lot of opinions on who people think would be involved in the trade. I would just like to add my own predictions FWIW (which ain't much!). Forget about the Buehrle for Drew rumor. I don't think this will happen but I can envision a similar trade with the birds. St. Louis is starved for pitching, both in the rotation and in late relief. The Sox are much improved with Everette's bat, but face it, he is not a true center fielder. Therefore, I can see the Sox sending Buerhle to St. Louis for Jim Edmonds. Edmonds is as near a perfect center fielder as you will find and would be perfect in Chicago, allowing Everette to either play left (Lee to DH) or to DH himself. Losing him is a steep price for the Cards, but getting a 2004 Cy Young candidate with contract time left could be awfully tempting for them. If not, KW might just include a reliever as well to help the Cards' late inning woes. Do you think such a deal would be possible and would you approve? I can picture it happening, although I don't know if I like the idea or not. Losing Buehrle this year would be tough, but the rest of the rotation has stepped up and Edmonds would be perfect in the Sox lineup. Maybe if they could acquire someone like a Ponson the deal would be worthwhile. This deal wont happen. The sox already have 3 solid starting OFs with two solid bench players. It wouldnt make sense to trade a good, young starting pitcher, for an aging CF when we already have quality in the outfield.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toasty Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 MB wont go anywhere, unless we get pedro. (yeah right) mags/thomas/olivo/alomar(s) pos players that i think would be untouchable, not sure about pitchers, but colon/loaiza/buehrle i think are those not touchable yet relievers are pretty much up in the air Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 If the Sox trade Buehrle, mail the season in. It's just not gonna happen. He is our ACE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ok here's a trade thought(though I'm not too keen on it) but we trade ARow and a prospect to the scrubs for Borowski and the scrubs send that prospect and one of there own to Texas for Uebina. I'm hesitant to trade ARow but it's more palpable than trading CLee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Ok here's a trade thought(though I'm not too keen on it) but we trade ARow and a prospect to the scrubs for Borowski and the scrubs send that prospect and one of there own to Texas for Uebina. I'm hesitant to trade ARow but it's more palpable than trading CLee. Why would you want Borowski? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Why would you want Borowski? Why would you want to trade a 23 y/o stud lefty for a 34 y/o CFer still owed $45 mil? Or CLee for Mota or Ponson for that fact? Borowski can successfully close but is probably better suited for setup in the long run, we have a closer who at the moment can't close but may regain his form later. He don't lose a starter from our lineup but we shore up our BP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 Why would you want to trade a 23 y/o stud lefty for a 34 y/o CFer still owed $45 mil? Or CLee for Mota or Ponson for that fact? Borowski can successfully close but is probably better suited for setup in the long run, we have a closer who at the moment can't close but may regain his form later. He don't lose a starter from our lineup but we shore up our BP. I consider Gordon the closer, not Koch. Trading Rowand to the Cubs is perfect. Get a good arm for the pen not named Alfonseca from the Cubs(Borowski works), and we then have a Borowski-Marte-Gordon trio to end games. Looks good on paper, and we lose hardly anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 However you'd leave the Cubs without a closer, so i doubt they'd do it. Some guy yesterday on the radio said daubach for juan cruz, but where in the hell would duabach play? sosa would have to move to center, and that ain't happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 However you'd leave the Cubs without a closer, so i doubt they'd do it. Some guy yesterday on the radio said daubach for juan cruz, but where in the hell would duabach play? sosa would have to move to center, and that ain't happening They have plenty of good arms, like Cruz and Beltran in the minor leagues, to take over as closer. I'm sure they could find a replacement for Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 However you'd leave the Cubs without a closer, so i doubt they'd do it. Some guy yesterday on the radio said daubach for juan cruz, but where in the hell would duabach play? sosa would have to move to center, and that ain't happening They have plenty of good arms, like Cruz and Beltran in the minor leagues, to take over as closer. I'm sure they could find a replacement for Joe. I think Juan Cruz sucks If anything Farnsworth could take over, he's got closer stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 However you'd leave the Cubs without a closer, so i doubt they'd do it. Some guy yesterday on the radio said daubach for juan cruz, but where in the hell would duabach play? sosa would have to move to center, and that ain't happening They have plenty of good arms, like Cruz and Beltran in the minor leagues, to take over as closer. I'm sure they could find a replacement for Joe. I think Juan Cruz sucks If anything Farnsworth could take over, he's got closer stuff Damn, forgot about Farnsworth. He could as well Hell, I'd take Farnsworth. Atleast then we actually WOULD have a guy that can hit 95+ that is younger then 35. Knowing our luck, he'd start to hit 91-93 on a regular basis after the point that we acquired him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted July 8, 2003 Share Posted July 8, 2003 No way would I do that Edmonds for MB trade. Pitching wins in the playoffs. Having Buehrle, Colon, Loaiza as our pitchers will be huge. Our outfield is clogged up with Lee, Rowand, Maggs, Daubach, Everett, and Willie, who can all play. No way do I want to trade our lefty ace for an injury-prone guy in Edmonds (even though I love the way that guy plays). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 9, 2003 Share Posted July 9, 2003 Buehrle for Edmonds: An emphatic NO! ..... Even on the surface, the upside of adding Edmonds doesn't outway the downside of losing Buehrle. Then you factor in money, age, etc... Nope, if KW does this he should be castrated. Rowand for Borowski: Again no. Borowski is nothing more than a journeyman pitcher that happens to be having an effective period in his career right now. I don't look for it to last long. AR is, contrary to the opinion of others, not chopped liver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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