Official 2008-2009 NHL Thread

[Chisoxfn]

Alright, so after digging through Williams-Gate, here's whats going on.

 

Chicago and Ottawa are in heated discussions.

Seabrook is not one of the names mentioned to me, Sorry Lee.

What I am hearing however, is that Skille and Barker would be comming back to ottawa in the package.

 

This is snowballing VERY quickly and I hear that the kings are VERY involved.

I've been told to not be suprised to see Vermette, Neil and Andrej moved, in a deal that could swing 8-10 players between the 3 teams.

 

I heard of something big on Friday, this might be it?

 

http://the-sens-outsider.blogspot.com/

I wonder if its a three team deal and will involve Khaby?

[EvilJester99]

I wonder if its a three team deal and will involve Khaby?

I would be shocked if Habby isn't involved in this deal....if it ever happens. Yes its suppose to be a 3 way deal.

Edited July 15, 2008 by EvilJester99

[Metz]

Everyone loves Brent Seabrook, which includes many NHL teams and if the rumors are true so does Bryan Murray. It seems more often than not Seabrooks name is mentioned in trade rumors. I feel he is a part of the Hawks young core and will not be moved unless it is an earth shaker trade slanted toward the Hawks.

 

Seabrook, Keith, Toews, Kane, Campbell and Sharp are the Hawks core components. There may be a couple of others like Huet that can be added to the list shortly but for now those are the six major components to this team. All of those players are under contract to be here for awhile and most likely it will remain that way.

 

Bryan Murray is not the GM who is operating from a position of strength in this case. He wasn’t the one in a superior position when he supposedly offered Gerber and Emery for Khabibulin and Lalime near the trade deadline. I see the same scenario now as the Hawks can benefit from a trade which would send Khabibulin to Ottawa but they don’t need to be desperate and bend over to get that done.

 

Vermette and Neil to Chicago for Khabibulin would net out to about a 2.5 million dollar Cap savings for the Hawks. Those numbers would work if Vermette would sign a 3 million dollar deal for instance. I suppose Barker and some prospects could be part of a bigger trade as Vermette could command a larger salary. Regardless I don’t see a need to include Seabrook.

 

Right now unless the dollars work out and a true top line player comes to Chicago, Seabrook going anywhere would be a risky move for the Hawks. I got a lot of feedback from those who thought Cam Barker showed improvement the second half of last year, and I can see their point.

 

Did anyone on the Blue Line here improve more than Keith and Seabrook last season?

 

The timing is right for the Hawks to make a trade early this week. We may find out before this weekends Hawk Convention if any transactions will include Khabibulin or Seabrook.

 

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=16227

 

I'd like to read this one much more then Eklunds, but still im just posting what i see. It would still be great if it could happen.

 

Speaking of the convention, anyone going?

 

I will be there Friday

[Steve9347]

They better not make that deal for Neil. You do it for Vermette and enjoy him as your "next' Marty Havlat, though not as talented.

 

Ridding ourselves of Bulin, and adding Barker in some capacity to get Vermette would be nice.

[EvilJester99]

Hawks just signed Doug Janik.....http://nhlpa.com/WebStats/PlayerBiography.asp?ID=7199

 

Makes me think even more a deal is in the works....why keep loading up with 6th and 7th Dmen?

 

Al Cimaglia

 

Is Something Cooking ???

July 15, 2008, 3:11 PM ET [33 Comments]

 

This news has not been substantiated through a press release yet, but it appears the Hawks have signed two defensemen. The first is Doug Janik, a 28 year old defender who played for the Lightning last season and was an UFA. The other defenseman is Aaron Johnson who is 25 years old and played 30 games for the Islanders last season. I show Johnson listed as a RFA although I do not know any other details at this time involving this transaction. Both players earned $475,000 last year.

 

Both players shoot left and could be coming to Chicago as a precursor to a trade of another defenseman.

 

Cam Barker is another left hander shooter from the Blue Line...hnmm....

Edited July 15, 2008 by EvilJester99

[Metz]

Nobody posted this.

 

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=243386&amp...os=secStory_nhl

 

Jason Williams a Trasher

 

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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/07/13/...ing_lecavalier/

 

Well they have had no problem spending money. V LeCav inks a 11 year deal

 

Edited July 16, 2008 by JFields27

[Steve9347]

Hawks just signed Doug Janik.....http://nhlpa.com/WebStats/PlayerBiography.asp?ID=7199

 

Makes me think even more a deal is in the works....why keep loading up with 6th and 7th Dmen?

 

Al Cimaglia

 

Is Something Cooking ???

July 15, 2008, 3:11 PM ET [33 Comments]

 

This news has not been substantiated through a press release yet, but it appears the Hawks have signed two defensemen. The first is Doug Janik, a 28 year old defender who played for the Lightning last season and was an UFA. The other defenseman is Aaron Johnson who is 25 years old and played 30 games for the Islanders last season. I show Johnson listed as a RFA although I do not know any other details at this time involving this transaction. Both players earned $475,000 last year.

 

Both players shoot left and could be coming to Chicago as a precursor to a trade of another defenseman.

 

Cam Barker is another left hander shooter from the Blue Line...hnmm....

Hmmm. Hopefully DT's got something real good cooking. Once again he makes a pre-emptive move that depends on someone else not backing out.

[EvilJester99]

I seen this on Stuy's board......

 

And there's this guess from his 'This just in update"

 

 

The Names I am hearing include these...

 

Sens get: Khabibulin,Barker and Sharp

Kings get: Gerber, Seabrook and Neil or Vermette

Hawks get: Ersberg,Preissing ,O'Sullivan and Vermette or Neil

 

Lot of fan jerseys would be gone.

Khabby, Sharp , Seabs and Barker for Ersberg, Preissing ,O'Sullivan and Vermette or Neil

Edited July 16, 2008 by EvilJester99

[EvilJester99]

Seen this on Spectors....

 

Is a three-way deal involving the Senators, Blackhawks and Kings in the works?Are the Wild working on re-signing Marian Gaborik? Will Jeff O'Neill make a comeback? Check out the latest.

 

 

 

OTTAWA SUN: Don Brennan reports "a hot rumour in NHL circles" has the Senators, Chicago Blackhawks and LA Kings on the verge of a blockbuster deal, which would see G Martin Gerber and D Andrej Meszaros shipping to the Kings, F Anze Kopitar dealt to the Blackhawks and G Nikolai Khabibulin and either D Brent Seabrook or Cam Barker moved to the Senators.

 

 

SPECTOR'S NOTE: While I'll always acknowledge that anything is possible (like, say, the existence of the Loch Ness Monster or that angry monkey in my closet...oh, wait, that was a Family Guy episode..) a little calm analysis is in order here.

 

First, this rumor has been floating around the internet for several days before it hit the media. Second, deals of this magnitude are never leaked. Look at the last significant off-season three-way deal two years ago, which also involved the Senators and Blackhawks and a California-based team (San Jose) which sent Martin Havlat to Chicago. Nobody, not even so-called "insiders", saw it coming.

 

Third, this deal sucks for the Kings, moving their best forward (and perhaps future franchise player) for an overpaid average goalie and a young defenseman which they've already got in abundance. At least the 'Khabibulin to the Kings" rumors made sense in that Khabby is an experienced starter. If Kings GM Dean Lombardi dreams of accepting that weak package for arguably the best young superstar forward no one outside of LA has heard about he'd better wake up and apologize. So, the Kings lose, the 'Hawks win big time at forward but could potentially lose a good young blueliner in the process and the Sens potentially do okay in the short and long term. Sorry, doesn't make sense to me.

 

I realize the Blackhawks have to dump salary, and Khabibulin is the obvious choice, and I also realize the Kings have to take on salary to get over next season's cap, and I think that's what is fueling this rumor, along with the Senators weakness in goal and the uncertainty over Meszaros' contract status.

 

Finally, if this has been kicking around in NHL circles surely there'd be new about it in the Chicago and LA media, but as of this writing not a peep.Something of this magnitude being kicked around the league surely would've attracted the attention of the hockey beat writers in those cities but they've had nothing on this. I'm not shooting the messenger here, Brennan's merely reporting a rumor he's heard, but it appears at this point a localized one.

 

Hey, maybe this deal will go down, stranger things have happened, but color me very skeptical at this point.

 

[DBAHO]

Kopitar would be great, but do you want to lose a potential #1-2 d-man in either Seabrook (who's already argubly there) or Barker to do so?

 

I'd probably rather stand pat. I think we need a 2nd line LW (especially if Ladd's playing on the 3rd line with Bolland and Dustin) to play with Lang and Havlat more anyways.

[EvilJester99]

Supposedly Kevin Lee, who is the rumor blogger for Ek's site. He states that he has heard the Hawks have traded Barker for Neil....he says more info to come. This should be a wait and see situation. Kopitar is a stud, I would love to get him but I am not crazy about dealing Seabrook.

Edited July 16, 2008 by EvilJester99

[whitesoxbrian]

If we get Kopitar, I'll do cart-wheels. He's a 20 year old offensive machine who isn't afraid to drop the gloves. Last year in 82 games he netted 32 goals with 45 helpers. In 2 years, he'll be what we never got in Hossa.

 

The Ottawa Sun is reporting a proposed trade between the Senators, Blackhawks and Kings that would involve the swapping of No. 1 goalies.

 

Los Angeles would receive goalie Martin Gerber and defenseman Andrej Meszaros from Ottawa. Chicago would add high flying forward Anze Kopitar to the increasingly potent Chicago offence, and the Blackhawks would move goalie Nikolai Khabibulin and one of two youthful blueliners, Brent Seabrook or Cam Barker to Ottawa reports the Sun.

from sportsnet.ca

 

Again, though, our defense would become significantly weak again. We'd have Keith, Campbell, Seabs/Barker, injured Wiz, and then it drops off big time.

[Steve9347]

If they got Kopitar I'd poop myself.

[DBAHO]

My guess is it's Barker. With the signing of Campbell, there's no need for Barker to become the point man on the PP in the future.

 

Would this make Robert Lang expendable at all as well?

 

But getting Kopitar and Neil for Khabibulin and Barker is a very good salary dump (albeit losing Cam would hurt).

[Steve9347]

My guess is it's Barker. With the signing of Campbell, there's no need for Barker to become the point man on the PP in the future.

 

Would this make Robert Lang expendable at all as well?

 

But getting Kopitar and Neil for Khabibulin and Barker is a very good salary dump (albeit losing Cam would hurt).

It just seems unrealistic and not plausible at all.

[DBAHO]

It just seems unrealistic and not plausible at all.

My guess is we give up at least the 2nd round pick we got from Calgary for Bourque.

 

Got to be draft picks involved.

[Steve9347]

My guess is we give up at least the 2nd round pick we got from Calgary for Bourque.

 

Got to be draft picks involved.

If we get Kopitar and the biggest pieces we move are Barker and Khabby, then it's the steal of the century. That's all I'm sayin'.

[EvilJester99]

Seen this from Stuy....

 

"I just heard from a source (a good one) NHL rejected the deal.

 

I have no other info. Speculation is the cap numbers didn't work. LA and Sens are pissed."

[whitesoxbrian]

Seen this from Stuy....

 

"I just heard from a source (a good one) NHL rejected the deal.

 

I have no other info. Speculation is the cap numbers didn't work. LA and Sens are pissed."

[Steve9347]

Seen this from Stuy....

 

"I just heard from a source (a good one) NHL rejected the deal.

 

I have no other info. Speculation is the cap numbers didn't work. LA and Sens are pissed."

wtf. figure it out and get it done. i bet it was DT's fault.

[whitesoxbrian]

The Los Angles kings are still working out the deal with the Hawks accoring to sources. From the same sources, "Players involved in the Ottawa Chicago deal would be heading to LA. As well, contract extensions could be what is holding up the finality of the deals as well"

But Everyone I've talked to thus far has still stated to hold tight... the deal is still being finalized but is looking to wrap up at any time.

from the-sens-outsider.blogspot.com/

[whitesoxbrian]

BTW- The Hawks will open up on the road in DC.

 

The Bruins site also says the Hawks will play them twice, 1 time at home and 1 time on the road.

[EvilJester99]

***UPDATE (4:10) Despite speculation indicating the deal had fallen through, talks continue. The deal is still very much in the works. One can only assume that this is the most complicated trade in the history of the NHL based on the amount of effort being put into it. Perhaps not, but regardless...patience Sens fans, something is in the works here.***

 

http://senschirp.blogspot.com/

 

To me this is sounding more and more like a mess.

Edited July 16, 2008 by EvilJester99

[Steve9347]

***UPDATE (4:10) Despite speculation indicating the deal had fallen through, talks continue. The deal is still very much in the works. One can only assume that this is the most complicated trade in the history of the NHL based on the amount of effort being put into it. Perhaps not, but regardless...patience Sens fans, something is in the works here.***

 

http://senschirp.blogspot.com/

 

To me this is sounding more and more like a mess.

To me it's sounding more and more like it's going to happen.

 

The question is do we get Kopitar or that other mess of players?

[Steve9347]

Eh maybe it doesn't sound done ha.