kapkomet Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 ^ This is a good thought, it really is. That's why I can say I'm personally against it, but I wouldn't judge someone who made that choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ May 20, 2009 -> 10:41 AM) If you are against abortion...don't have one. Teach your kids that abstinence/contraception is the way to go. You can only control what you can control...and you can't control everyone. I wish the Democrats would adapt that credo in a lot more areas. I'd be way more open to them if that was so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2009 -> 01:34 PM) I wish the Democrats would adapt that credo in a lot more areas. I'd be way more open to them if that was so. They do actually but it never gets focused on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 No wonder the Red States vote GOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2009 -> 12:34 PM) I wish EVERYONE would adapt that credo in a lot more areas. Edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 RFK's son considering running for Obama's old seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Press Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE WASHINGTON, DC – Seeking to quell fears of terrorists somehow breaking out of America's top-security prisons and wreaking havoc on the defenseless heartland, President Barack Obama moved quickly to announce an Anti-Terrorist Strike Force headed by veteran counterterrorism agent Jack Bauer and mutant superhero Wolverine. Already dubbed a "dream team," their appointment is seen by experts as a crucial step in reducing the mounting incidents of national conservatives and congressional Democrats crapping their pants. "I believe a fictional threat is best met with decisive fictional force," explained President Obama. "Jack Bauer and Wolverine are among the very best we have when in comes to combating fantasy foes." Mr. Bauer said, "We're quite certain that our prisons are secure. Osama bin Laden and his agents wouldn't dare attempt a break-out, and would fail miserably if they tried. But I love this country. And should Lex Luthor, Magneto or the Loch Ness Monster attack, we'll be there to stop them." The move has already earned widespread praise, and veteran columnist David Broder hailed the bipartisan nature of the team. But not all were convinced. House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) scoffed, "I thought the president was a Spiderman guy. And what a surprise that a Canadian would use knives on his hands versus a good ol' fashioned American Uzi." Mr. Wolverine, who also goes by Logan, responded, "What's wrong with Canada? I fought alongside Captain America in World War II, bub. I'm happy to help out." Some critics have expressed concerns as to whether Mr. Bauer is the best choice to counter the potential threat of a super-villain such as Magneto, a dinosaur stampede or an alien invasion. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs responded that while Bauer lacks conventional super-powers, he can withstand extreme amounts of pain, has near infallible judgment, can teleport across Los Angeles and Washington D.C. at will, and can go 24 hours without sleep or relieving his bladder. Should the task of protecting the country prove too difficult for the super-agent and super-hero on their own, Crime-Fightin' Jesus has offered to lend a hand "in a pinch," although he says he would rather spend his time helping the poor "if at all possible." Republicans insist that a law-enforcement approach to terrorism is ineffective. The Kimberly-Clark Corporation, manufacturers of Depends adult diapers, has already come out strongly against the announcement of the Bauer-Wolverine dream team, claiming that their increased sales are helping spur the nation's economic recovery. Republican Newt Gingrich also condemned the president's actions. "President Obama seems to think that crapping one's pants is a bad thing somehow," said the former Speaker of the House, "but crapping one's pants is what this country was founded on. The Reagan Revolution wouldn't have happened without fear of evil Soviets and welfare queens. And say what you will about President Bush, he kept this country crapping its pants for seven long years after 9/11." The White House declined to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Either Cheney needs to lighten up or just bloody run for President in 2012 already. Getting pretty annoying... seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ May 21, 2009 -> 10:07 PM) Either Cheney needs to lighten up or just bloody run for President in 2012 already. Getting pretty annoying... seriously. Kinda like Al Gore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 22, 2009 -> 08:50 AM) Kinda like Al Gore? Except Al Gore isn't so overflowing with hate and anger. I do agree though, that they both fall into the category of time-go-get-out-of-the-way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2009 -> 09:12 AM) Except Al Gore isn't so overflowing with hate and anger. overused term. i don't really see any hate, maybe some anger. the same could be said of Al Gore when he is speaking on his agenda. Edited May 22, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 22, 2009 -> 11:45 AM) overused term. i don't really see any hate, maybe some anger. the same could be said of Al Gore when he is speaking on his agenda. I don't think they are the same. Cheney wants a holy war, involving violence, and sees that cause as higher than the Constitution or anything else. Gore's agenda doesn't include death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2009 -> 12:07 PM) I don't think they are the same. Cheney wants a holy war, involving violence, and sees that cause as higher than the Constitution or anything else. Gore's agenda doesn't include death. Well, it does...just in a longer time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2009 -> 12:07 PM) I don't think they are the same. Cheney wants a holy war, involving violence, and sees that cause as higher than the Constitution or anything else. Gore's agenda doesn't include death. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Kap, I mean i hate to say it, but Cheney is an Evangelical. (Unless you are denying that he is one.) And part of that belief is the Rapture, Armageddon and the coming of the anti-christ. Now whether or not Cheney is actively trying to create those things is unprovable. But the fact he belongs to the religion, suggests that he wants them to happen and in order for them to happen there have to be certain occurrences (many of them extremely violent and brutal.) I have never seen him speak against any of these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 22, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) Give me a break. I am astounded by the staggering profundity of your artfully crafted retort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 22, 2009 -> 02:51 PM) Give me a break. Oh and by the way, I do think "holy war" was a bit strong, but not much. He wants a new world order, and I really do think his fears have warped him into believing that Islam and the Middle Eastern culture as a whole are the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubano Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 The democrat socialist thread???? Let me get out of here in a hurry. Keep dreaming folks about socialism/left idiology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (Cubano @ May 22, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) The democrat socialist thread???? Let me get out of here in a hurry. Keep dreaming folks about socialism/left idiology. I so am laughing at this and so feeling guilty about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ May 22, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) Kap, I mean i hate to say it, but Cheney is an Evangelical. (Unless you are denying that he is one.) And part of that belief is the Rapture, Armageddon and the coming of the anti-christ. Now whether or not Cheney is actively trying to create those things is unprovable. But the fact he belongs to the religion, suggests that he wants them to happen and in order for them to happen there have to be certain occurrences (many of them extremely violent and brutal.) I have never seen him speak against any of these things. Riiiiiiiiiiight. Now let's compare Cheney to A-make-me-a-dickhead-a-jan. Again, give me a break. It makes me laugh how the "left" wants to paint this guy as the devil incarnate. The fact is, every time he's opened his mouth on something in the last couple of months, all of a sudden, Obama's relented or softened his stance. I know you all won't see it that way, but it is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 22, 2009 -> 05:49 PM) Riiiiiiiiiiight. Now let's compare Cheney to A-make-me-a-dickhead-a-jan. Again, give me a break. It makes me laugh how the "left" wants to paint this guy as the devil incarnate. The fact is, every time he's opened his mouth on something in the last couple of months, all of a sudden, Obama's relented or softened his stance. I know you all won't see it that way, but it is happening. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 Are you sayiing that Cheney is not an evangelical? Because thats fine if you just believe that he is using the term to get votes and that he doesnt really believe in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 lol the dems voted for the Iraq war, they knew about waterboarding... blinders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 sorry to insult your guys religion of some f***ign donkey logo. but it's the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 23, 2009 Share Posted May 23, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 22, 2009 -> 07:23 PM) lol the dems voted for the Iraq war, they knew about waterboarding... blinders Actually, more Democrats voted against the Iraq war than voted for it, by quite a bit IIRC. I'm still not exactly sure who knew what about the Bush torture program or what they could have/did do about it, but I'd be happy to support an independent investigation by someone who could bring charges against anyone involved in the conspiracy to do so or cover it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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