kapkomet Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Holy f***, we get it. Sarah Palin is a ditzy b**** who exploits her family for political gain and David Letterman isn't funny anymore. Most of this was decided months and even years ago. Can we please move on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 05:34 PM) Holy f***, we get it. Sarah Palin is a ditzy b**** who exploits her family for political gain and David Letterman isn't funny anymore. Most of this was decided months and even years ago. Can we please move on? This is the Democrat thread, man. I really do wish the media would stop interviewing her though. Edited June 12, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) Why this is super important news, a late night talk show host said something demeaning to Sarah Palin and the world must be made aware of the plot by Obama to have his surrogates destroy her before the 2012 election. Dont you get it, this is the exact type of trickery that the Democrats used to win the election. (I hope people can tell its sarcasm.) I cant believe anyone is reporting this as newsworthy, but thats the liberal media for you, always putting a negative light on the Republican's which is why they want the Letterman clip run over and over again. If Dave said it, it must be true! In Dave we trust! (More sarcasm.) Edited June 12, 2009 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 David Letterman is a comedian. Sometimes a mildly raunchy one. f*** Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 06:50 PM) David Letterman is a comedian. Sometimes a mildly raunchy one. f*** Palin. the guy told a joke about rapign a 14 year old. is this what it's come to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 10:37 PM) the guy told a joke about rapign a 14 year old. is this what it's come to? Unintentionally, he meant to be talking about Bristol who's apparently of legal age. And as far as I know he said nothing about raping anyone. He said knocked up. It was a joke, and compared to some of the stuff out there, very tame. Ever listened to a real comedian, uncensored? NSFW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFnKTs6CXwQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 12, 2009 -> 04:16 PM) northside is just overreacting I don't think I've ever been accused of that on SoxTalk. This is a first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 This is just another PC-lovin' liberal politician that can't take it..uh I mean Letterman should apologize for such an offensive comment that makes it sound like it's OK to talk about young girls in that way! Where it's kind of OK, accepted, and funny to talk about statutory rape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Obama must be in Chicago today. Marine 1 and its escort just flew over our building, as they always do between O'Hare and whereever it is they go downtown to land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jun 13, 2009 -> 10:55 AM) Obama must be in Chicago today. Marine 1 and its escort just flew over our building, as they always do between O'Hare and whereever it is they go downtown to land. He is to be there this weekend and then Monday give the AMA speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 File this under "things that would have been different for the worse if John McCain won": He is saying that Obama's not criticizing the Iranian elections loud enough, he wants Obama to publicly call them a sham run by a corrupt regime etc. This is about the worst possible course of action he could take. Right now he is being subdued on it and letting the whole thing play out on its own, without us. Support for the Islamic government has never been this low and there's at least an appearance that the rug was yanked out from under the clerics, and the government may well be slowly collapsing before our eyes (the 1979 revolution didn't happen overnight either). There is a de facto current for cooler relations with the West... now, if you have the US president making public comments on internal Iranian affairs - again - now you have the Iranian government able to say the US is meddling with their right to govern themselves - again - and what happens to that support, and anti-regime sentiment? It evaporates and you go back to waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 09:41 AM) File this under "things that would have been different for the worse if John McCain won": He is saying that Obama's not criticizing the Iranian elections loud enough, he wants Obama to publicly call them a sham run by a corrupt regime etc. This is about the worst possible course of action he could take. Right now he is being subdued on it and letting the whole thing play out on its own, without us. Support for the Islamic government has never been this low and there's at least an appearance that the rug was yanked out from under the clerics, and the government may well be slowly collapsing before our eyes (the 1979 revolution didn't happen overnight either). There is a de facto current for cooler relations with the West... now, if you have the US president making public comments on internal Iranian affairs - again - now you have the Iranian government able to say the US is meddling with their right to govern themselves - again - and what happens to that support, and anti-regime sentiment? It evaporates and you go back to waiting. Word. Obama has been pretty good on foreign affairs so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 06:41 AM) File this under "things that would have been different for the worse if John McCain won": Frankly, I'm hoping that Senator McCain is just in "Oppose the President on everything he says, does, or touches" mode right now and wouldn't actually be stupid enough to have actually done that had he been in office. But yeah...just in case...there's one bullet dodged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) Frankly, I'm hoping that Senator McCain is just in "Oppose the President on everything he says, does, or touches" mode right now and wouldn't actually be stupid enough to have actually done that had he been in office. But yeah...just in case...there's one bullet dodged. No, watching him campaign and considering his political career, I think McCain almost certainly would've said that. It fits right in with his strategic view of the world, with America on top, everyone else following our lead, and scoffing at anybody who thinks that reactions to statements matter with any kind of depth to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Dick Lugar agrees with me. *Pats self on back* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 09:01 AM) No, watching him campaign and considering his political career, I think McCain almost certainly would've said that. It fits right in with his strategic view of the world, with America on top, everyone else following our lead, and scoffing at anybody who thinks that reactions to statements matter with any kind of depth to them. I know what ya mean, but you can always hope he'd have at least 1 or 2 sane advisors wouldn't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 12:04 PM) I know what ya mean, but you can always hope he'd have at least 1 or 2 sane advisors wouldn't you? Like, say, Dick Lugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Lost, I think Congressman Pence deserves our smiley. The third-ranking Republican in the House, who had been concentrating on a campaign against cap-and-trade legislation, has swiftly become one of the most vocal critics of the White House’s response to the Iranian protests. Pence told CBS News that “It is appropriate for the leader of the free world at this time to speak a word of encouragement to those dissidents in the street” and is coming out shortly with a resolution of support for the “dissidents.” It will express its concern regarding the reported irregularities of the presidential election of 12 June, 2009. It will condemn the violence against demonstrators by pro-government militia in Tehran in the wake of the elections. It will affirm our belief in the universality of individual rights and the importance of democratic and fair elections. And lastly, and most importantly, it will express the support of the American people for all Iranian citizens who struggle for freedom, civil liberties and the protection of the rule of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 06:36 PM) Lost, I think Congressman Pence deserves our smiley. Yep - and if Obama said this, you would be slurping it up. This doesn't say a damn thing that means anything except to say we hope for an accurate vote over there. *gasp* a "Conservative" said this, let's put the figurative gun to our head!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 05:56 PM) Yep - and if Obama said this, you would be slurping it up. This doesn't say a damn thing that means anything except to say we hope for an accurate vote over there. *gasp* a "Conservative" said this, let's put the figurative gun to our head!! Didn't we just finish spelling out why that was a bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 08:24 PM) Didn't we just finish spelling out why that was a bad idea? It doesn't or wouldn't change your reaction. It's all in how you're spoon fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 07:24 PM) It doesn't or wouldn't change your reaction. It's all in how you're spoon fed. Thanks for the insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I actually cited a "conservative" (Dick Lugar, who is probably the smartest foreign affairs guy in the entire government IMO) agreeing with me that taking sides would be a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 07:28 PM) I actually cited a "conservative" (Dick Lugar, who is probably the smartest foreign affairs guy in the entire government IMO) agreeing with me that taking sides would be a bad idea. You're capable of rational thought, obviously. I'm just spoon-fed. I'm unable to interpret on my own whether or not the U.S. government saying it actively supports Iran would be a good thing or a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 16, 2009 -> 10:34 PM) You're capable of rational thought, obviously. I'm just spoon-fed. I'm unable to interpret on my own whether or not the U.S. government saying it actively supports Iran would be a good thing or a bad thing. What does Rachel Maddow have to say about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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