bmags Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 damn I forgot how long the colbert report has been on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Question, how many who are currently promoting the "government will decide when to pull the plug on grandma" lie were among those in Congress who thought it was appropriate for the government to intervene in an end-of-life decision in 2005 (Terri Schiavo)? And, in fact, to override what her husband (and apparently Schiavo herself) wanted? Is it worse to be an unapologetic liar or a hypocrite? f*** it, let's just be both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I don't even want to answer it because it's not in the bill so we are arguing about something that doesn't exist. It's allowing the patient to decide legally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 Well that the whole thing is a lie is a given. A Republican from GA (forgot his name) said he doesn't know how that even got started because the actual bill says it gives the individuals a choice and has nothing to do with the government. How it's been distorted and allowed to perpetuate like that is mind-numbing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 I remember we were having a debate a while back about whether Dick Cheney is an evangelical. Here's what Barton Gellman, Cheney expert, has to say on the subject. St Petersburg, Fla.: What role did religion play in Cheney's policies. I don't recall him appealing to religion as did Bush. Is Cheney even a religious guy? Barton Gellman: He resolutely avoids any talk of faith, even with friends. One of his oldest friends and colleagues, David Gribbin, is a lay preacher and speaks often of God, but never could discover a hint of Cheney's views. Cheney certainly doesn't use religion or the social issues in politics. Just not interested. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 12:25 PM) How it's been distorted and allowed to perpetuate like that is mind-numbing to me. It really shouldn't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) It really shouldn't be. Touche, because I totally know how it's happening. "Mind-numbing" isn't the best choice of words. "Profoundly disillusioned" maybe is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 03:31 PM) I remember we were having a debate a while back about whether Dick Cheney is an evangelical. Here's what Barton Gellman, Cheney expert, has to say on the subject. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...ml?hpid=topnews I'm pretty sure that was Rumsfeld we were talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) I'm pretty sure that was Rumsfeld we were talking about. It's both of them. They both have that weird "are they big in to gun toting Jesus or not" question about them. Rumsfeld it appears more Yes, Cheney it just appears hates the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) Touche, because I totally know how it's happening. "Mind-numbing" isn't the best choice of words. "Profoundly disillusioned" maybe is better. And you could have predicted this months ago. Didn't necessarily know it would be "DEATH PANELS!" but taking a random portion of the bill totally out of context and lying about it is a standard tactic. Just look at the way the stimulus bill was attacked. "Who would ever care about research on pig emissions?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 13, 2009 -> 08:41 AM) Woman takes a poster of Rosa Parks into a town hall meeting and displays it. After she puts it away, a journalist asks her to show the poster. A protestor than comes and snatches it out of the lady's hand. The lady chases and goes after the protestor for snatching out of her hands and ripping up a picture of Rosa Parks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zfawMm-So...player_embedded That's some extremely selective editing. The policy was no signs and the women were supposedly parading around with their posters earlier in the town hall. Eventually they were stopped and sat down. When one woman looked like she was taking hers out again, this grumpy old dude snatched it from her. Yes, he was douchey, but so were they. To edit out the beginning (their disruption) and the aftermath (the speaker's explanation of the sign problem) is cheap. What does Rosa Parks have to do with health care anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I have no urge to find the thread, but John Edwards was the kid's father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 I thought she said he wasn't the father? Eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 About a dozen people were carrying weapons outside of President Obama's event in Phoenix today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) About a dozen people were carrying weapons outside of President Obama's event in Phoenix today. Guns at political rallies. Yeah nothing bad ever happens with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 The 2nd is as valid as the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2009 -> 05:17 PM) About a dozen people were carrying weapons outside of President Obama's event in Phoenix today. They reported on GMA this morning that no one was arrested, which is strange. They also reported that Obama gets as many threats as both Bush and Clinton did at this stage of their Presidency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 The Anti-Beck advertisement backlash continues: 8 More Major Retailers Among Leading Advertisers To Pull Ads From Beck Show Walmart, Best Buy, CVS, and GMAC are among eight major advertisers that have confirmed pulling their advertising from Fox News' "Glenn Beck" program in light of his comments that President Obama is a racist. The advertisers did not pull their spots from Fox News, but rather requested that their ads do not air during Beck's 5PM program. The advertisers in the latest round of pull-out from Beck's show and their statements to ColorOfChange.org: Allergan (maker of Restasis) Ally Bank (a unit of GMAC Financial Services) Best Buy Broadview Security CVS Re-Bath Travelocity Wal-Mart These companies join a growing list of advertisers to pull their ads from Beck's show, including ConAgra, GEICO, Lawyers.com, Men's Wearhouse, Procter & Gamble, Progressive Insurance, RadioShack, Roche, SC Johnson, Sanofi-Aventis, Sargento, and State Farm Insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 18, 2009 -> 10:18 AM) The 2nd is as valid as the 1st. Asserting 2A rights is fine by me, but how about a little coherence? What the f*** are you actually protesting? Pick one, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 18, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) They reported on GMA this morning that no one was arrested, which is strange. They also reported that Obama gets as many threats as both Bush and Clinton did at this stage of their Presidency. It's completely legal in Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 18, 2009 -> 09:21 AM) Asserting 2A rights is fine by me, but how about a little coherence? What the f*** are you actually protesting? Pick one, damn. Like the various liberal/ dem protests during the Bush admin., its a disjointed group with many little factions all with their own views on what's really important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 18, 2009 -> 10:24 AM) Like the various liberal/ dem protests during the Bush admin., its a disjointed group with many little factions all with their own views on what's really important. Yeah, it's really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 (edited) Man With Assault Rifle Outside Obama Event: 'We Will Forcefully Resist' In a YouTube video, the man who carried a semi-automatic assault rifle outside yesterday's presidential event tells fellow demonstrators "We will forcefully resist people imposing their will on us through the strength of the majority with a vote." The man, only identified as "Chris," spoke against taxation: "Just because you sic the government on people doesn't make it morally OK to steal money from people. Taxation is theft." He also said "it would be insane" not to be armed, saying he wears a gun at all times. The video comes from a libertarian group called Freedom's Phoenix and another group called 4409, which opposes police security cameras. Edited August 18, 2009 by Athomeboy_2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just because you sic the government on people doesn't make it morally OK to steal money from people. Taxation is theft." lulz at libertardians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Strength of the majority? Umm, you mean like democratic processes? What the f***? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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