Balta1701 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Health reform supporter shows up at an event wearing a Yankee Shirt and a revolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) This all comes out right before Congress comes back to vote on health care. Smokescreen, baby. Edit - to say it better, this has been simmering for months - and they're going to pursue this right at the same time. Right. Nice motives. I think its tied to a court-order FOIA release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) This all comes out right before Congress comes back to vote on health care. Smokescreen, baby. Edit - to say it better, this has been simmering for months - and they're going to pursue this right at the same time. Right. Nice motives. Don't really buy it. I doubt the actual investigations will make much press, and I doubt that this as a smokescreen was the motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (KipWellsFan @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 11:24 PM) Don't really buy it. I doubt the actual investigations will make much press, and I doubt that this as a smokescreen was the motivation. I do. Obamas are not to be covered, Schmucky said yesterday they are going to the reconciliation route (essentially saying there's no way ObamaCare will be stopped), and they want to bring the loonies back in by - oh yea, we got those Bush Motherf***ers we need to get - GO GET THEM - while health care makes a little path away from the far far left agenda. Move the hand over here, LOOK, (don't want this hand, don't want you to see this side). And back the other way. And back. Classic Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 yes, the far far left agenda is ... a public option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 12:47 AM) yes, the far far left agenda is ... a public option oh, no, it's mainstream, conservative, moderates, liberals, agenda - a public option. The whole WORLD wants this! (Except those mobs, nazis, crazy f***s showing up at these town hall meetings.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 12:54 AM) oh, no, it's mainstream, conservative, moderates, liberals, agenda - a public option. The whole WORLD wants this! (Except those mobs, nazis, crazy f***s showing up at these town hall meetings.) The far left is kinda of pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 12:41 AM) I do. Obamas are not to be covered, Schmucky said yesterday they are going to the reconciliation route (essentially saying there's no way ObamaCare will be stopped), and they want to bring the loonies back in by - oh yea, we got those Bush Motherf***ers we need to get - GO GET THEM - while health care makes a little path away from the far far left agenda. Move the hand over here, LOOK, (don't want this hand, don't want you to see this side). And back the other way. And back. Classic Obama. Classic ACLU FOIA lawsuit. And that doesn't excuse how the Bush administration broke the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 06:54 AM) oh, no, it's mainstream, conservative, moderates, liberals, agenda - a public option. The whole WORLD wants this! (Except those mobs, nazis, crazy f***s showing up at these town hall meetings.) man, you just have no context on any issue. Read something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 07:07 AM) The far left is kinda of pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise. *Yawn* Obama: "YOU WILL HAVE CHOICE" Obama (not widely reported): "it might take 5-10-15-20 years but (paraphrasing) single payor is the goal". And don't sit there and say that he's "changed his mind". Otherwise people are damn fools who can't look into what the long term goals of this plan are. I know what the bill says and I know what the long term objectives are, that no one wants to think about because it's something that is "lies". BS. THEY SAID IT. But I guess those were "fabrications and lies", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:23 AM) man, you just have no context on any issue. Read something. I'm not the one who goes around saying this stupid s***. Nancy Pelosi and other Democrat mouth pieces are. Context my ass. They know what they are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 what are you talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:46 AM) *Yawn* Obama: "YOU WILL HAVE CHOICE" Obama (not widely reported): "it might take 5-10-15-20 years but (paraphrasing) single payor is the goal". And don't sit there and say that he's "changed his mind". Otherwise people are damn fools who can't look into what the long term goals of this plan are. I know what the bill says and I know what the long term objectives are, that no one wants to think about because it's something that is "lies". BS. THEY SAID IT. But I guess those were "fabrications and lies", right? The far left is kinda pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise. Edited August 25, 2009 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Keep your friends close...and keep the people who help break your country's laws closer? One of President Obama's golfing buddies Monday was a top donor to his campaign and the president of a bank at the center of a U.S. investigation into illegal tax shelters. Robert Wolf, the president of UBS Americas, a Swiss-based bank, joined Obama at the elite, and difficult, Farm Neck Golf Club in Oak Bluffs. Deputy press secretary Bill Burton described the two men as "friends." According to news reports, Wolf and Obama met late in 2006 as the then-Illinois senator was about to launch his presidential bid. Wolf raised more than $250,000 for Obama's presidential bid, according to a Post report last year. But Wolf's firm was caught up last year in a Senate probe of financial firms that attempted to shield millions of dollars in offshore accounts from U.S. taxes. Last August, the Post reported, "The Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations completed its report on UBS's role in helping wealthy investors shield money from federal taxes. Bank spokeswoman Rohini Pragasam said the donations were "categorically not connected" to the Senate inquiry. The bank also is under scrutiny by the IRS and the Justice Department." Just last week, though, the bank announced a settlement with the Internal Revenue Service. In a release, the bank said the settlement will affect about 4,450 accounts, adding, "UBS will send notices to affected US persons encouraging them to participate in the IRS's voluntary disclosure practice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 24, 2009 -> 04:51 PM) This all comes out right before Congress comes back to vote on health care. Smokescreen, baby. Edit - to say it better, this has been simmering for months - and they're going to pursue this right at the same time. Right. Nice motives. Hey, I was right. Smokescreen! court-ordered release under the FOIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 03:51 PM) The far left is kinda pissed its not a single-payer or NHS-style system. Public option is a compromise. yes but the far far left circles back around and supports public option, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Some of the memos that earlier this year Dick Cheney claimed would prove that beating and drowning prisoners to death "worked" were released yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 10:47 AM) I'm not the one who goes around saying this stupid s***. Nancy Pelosi and other Democrat mouth pieces are. Context my ass. They know what they are saying. Might as well keep your bull about Obama being far far left out of the Democratic thread. Most moderate people don't buy that and for certain no one in this thread buys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Jayson Nix goes all birther on the the world's best known Sox fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 04:23 PM) Jayson Nix goes all birther on the the world's best known Sox fan. If he watched a little teevee he might have seen Hawaii 5-0 in reruns and then he'd know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Along that line, my mom used to sell Amtrak trips. She had more than a handful of people call in asking for the train to Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 03:32 PM) Along that line, my mom used to sell Amtrak trips. She had more than a handful of people call in asking for the train to Hawaii. I'd be the first to board that bad boy. Talk about the view... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 09:44 AM) Some of the memos that earlier this year Dick Cheney claimed would prove that beating and drowning prisoners to death "worked" were released yesterday. Dick Cheney's statement on those memos is absolute beauty. I no longer ever want to hear anyone tell me how important beating the hell out of prisoners for information is. The documents released Monday clearly demonstrate that the individuals subjected to Enhanced Interrogation Techniques provided the bulk of intelligence we gained about al Qaeda.Suddenly all the defenses about how the torture provided vital information is gone. Now it's the deliberately obscuring statement that the people we tortured provided all the information. Of course they did, we tortured the ones with the information, that doesn't mean the torture had anything to do with it. But alas, it's of course going to be enough to punk CNN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Those documents didn't prove or disprove anything. Status quo remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 25, 2009 -> 04:14 PM) Those documents didn't prove or disprove anything. Status quo remains. Proved 1 thing...they didn't contain the proof Dick Cheney said they contained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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