ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 12:02 PM) And the Republican Sex Scandals Continue: *Yawn* Yep, it's only republicans. Sorry, keep on cheerleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 12:56 PM) *Yawn* Yep, it's only republicans. Sorry, keep on cheerleading. I'm with you on this one. Utterly ridiculous to point out sex scandals of one party only. It's an apolitical issue. EDIT: I would also prefer that politicians stop telling people how to act behind closed doors. It's situations like this that come back to haunt them. And we both know it's primarily conservatives preaching to others. Edited September 9, 2009 by BigSqwert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 01:58 PM) I'm with you on this one. Utterly ridiculous to point out sex scandals of one party only. It's an apolitical issue. Kinda like the tax thing isn't a dem issue, it just has more of them recently. It's a people issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 01:59 PM) Kinda like the tax thing isn't a dem issue, it just has more of them recently. It's a people issue. Agreed. The only reason I cared about the Sanford thing is because it was bizarre and f***ing hilarious. And I like to mock hypocrites (social conservatives who cheat on their wives and/or secretly perform homosexual acts, telling other people it's immoral). But this really isn't a "Dem" or "GOP" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:37 AM) In the interest of being fair and balanced...I'd like to note that I still am no fan of these sorts of manufactured political theater events, like the one we're going to see tonight, no matter who is at the podium. It'll be interesting to see the results perhaps, and the presence of a gifted orator might make it more interesting than usual, but still, I'm just blah about all of them. Good post, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (Soxy @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 12:50 PM) Women get more liberal after babies; men get more conservative. And yes, I do read a science daily website. My life is like a rap video. I can totally see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 From the first reports out of the Supreme Court today, a majority of justices seemed to be leaning towards the side of eliminating every corporate campaign finance limitation on the books. (Tonight's speech by the President, brought to you by Wellpoint insurance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 I don't understand that. Corporations are run by people but they aren't people themselves. That they have rights is understood, but human rights? Come on now. Modern corporations didn't even exist when the Constitution was written so I don't get that angle, either. I just don't see how you could draw a conclusion like that. The CEO of a corporation making political donations and statements is one thing, Corporation X run by said CEO doing the same thing is quite another and that's a path to corruption and oligarchy that will never be turned back from. Before someone jumps on me with the inevitable "union" counterpoint, no, I don't really think unions should have as much say and influence either. Union members should, certainly (just like a corporation's employees), even speaking in public about their preferences, but the union itself, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 There is a long legal history there, but the U.S. code says they are, and some interpretations of the law could be read that way. It's entirely within the realm of published discussion that they could be declared to have the same rights as people under the first amendment, and since money=speech, they could do whatever they wanted. This post brought to you by Cigna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:00 AM) he left wing opposition does it too, but not nearly as loudly or effectively as the right wing's fringe. Oh, I wouldn't say that. The left wing fringe is just as loud and effective. but anyways, check this out http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109314 Edited September 9, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 04:44 PM) From the first reports out of the Supreme Court today, a majority of justices seemed to be leaning towards the side of eliminating every corporate campaign finance limitation on the books. (Tonight's speech by the President, brought to you by Wellpoint insurance). Justice Kennedy, who often plays a swing vote role, spoke repeatedly of "an ongoing chill" on the speech of corporations and other harms caused by the McCain-Feingold law that banned independent corporate spending on campaigns. I guess corporations bribing congress with billions just isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 9, 2009 Share Posted September 9, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 03:30 PM) I guess corporations bribing congress with billions just isn't enough. Nope. This post brought to you by Kaiser Permanente. We promise we'll actually consider paying for your treatment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 05:01 PM) I don't understand that. Corporations are run by people but they aren't people themselves. That they have rights is understood, but human rights? Come on now. They are treated as fictional persons who have the same/ similar legal rights to actual persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan101 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Anybody catch Governor Sanford's news conference in South Carolina today (well, yesterday now)? He might be just as crazy as Blago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 (edited) I was reading Huffpo comments yesterday and I had no idea there were so many Truthers on that site. They get hostile if you challenge them too. edit: whoops, I thought I posted this in the Dem thread. Edited September 12, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 02:33 PM) I was reading Huffpo comments yesterday and I had no idea there were so many Truthers on that site. They get hostile if you challenge them too. haha, did you challenge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 03:42 PM) haha, did you challenge? I don't actually post there, I just read. Maybe I should post there because there is an echo chamber effect (not as bad as Dailykos but it's still there). They would probably think I was a Freerepublic troll though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 lol http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 From the lowest forms of humanity gathered in our great capital today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 I love the juxtaposition of "Marxist czars." Its almost as if most people have virtually no understanding of Marxism, communism, socialism or 20th century history in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Oliver Willis in attendance. One of his tweets: Man this crowd almost as big as the one they had when Bush ran up the deficit... Oh wait that didn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 04:47 PM) I love the juxtaposition of "Marxist czars." Its almost as if most people have virtually no understanding of Marxism, communism, socialism or 20th century history in general. almost as if? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 fake naivety on my part. Most people have literally no understanding of Marxism, communism, socialism, nazism, Stalinism, 20/19/18/17th etc century history, capitalism/ modern economics or most other crap politicians emotionally play games with. "More czars than the USSR!" :facepalm: I recently had someone try to argue to me that the October Revolution put Marx into power with a socialist system first and then Lenin came along a while latter to install communism (socialism->communism slippery slope). :facepalm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 05:59 PM) fake naivety on my part. Most people have literally no understanding of Marxism, communism, socialism, nazism, Stalinism, 20/19/18/17th etc century history, capitalism/ modern economics or most other crap politicians emotionally play games with. "More czars than the USSR!" :facepalm: I recently had someone try to argue to me that the October Revolution put Marx into power with a socialist system first and then Lenin came along a while latter to install communism (socialism->communism slippery slope). :facepalm: Man that is funny as s***. The communists KILLED the czar. I think I learned that in 6th grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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