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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 12:56 PM)
*Yawn*

 

Yep, it's only republicans.

 

Sorry, keep on cheerleading.

I'm with you on this one. Utterly ridiculous to point out sex scandals of one party only. It's an apolitical issue.

 

EDIT: I would also prefer that politicians stop telling people how to act behind closed doors. It's situations like this that come back to haunt them. And we both know it's primarily conservatives preaching to others.

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QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 01:59 PM)
Kinda like the tax thing isn't a dem issue, it just has more of them recently. It's a people issue.

Agreed. The only reason I cared about the Sanford thing is because it was bizarre and f***ing hilarious. And I like to mock hypocrites (social conservatives who cheat on their wives and/or secretly perform homosexual acts, telling other people it's immoral). But this really isn't a "Dem" or "GOP" thing.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 11:37 AM)
In the interest of being fair and balanced...I'd like to note that I still am no fan of these sorts of manufactured political theater events, like the one we're going to see tonight, no matter who is at the podium. It'll be interesting to see the results perhaps, and the presence of a gifted orator might make it more interesting than usual, but still, I'm just blah about all of them.

Good post, sir.

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I don't understand that. Corporations are run by people but they aren't people themselves. That they have rights is understood, but human rights? Come on now. Modern corporations didn't even exist when the Constitution was written so I don't get that angle, either. I just don't see how you could draw a conclusion like that. The CEO of a corporation making political donations and statements is one thing, Corporation X run by said CEO doing the same thing is quite another and that's a path to corruption and oligarchy that will never be turned back from.

 

Before someone jumps on me with the inevitable "union" counterpoint, no, I don't really think unions should have as much say and influence either. Union members should, certainly (just like a corporation's employees), even speaking in public about their preferences, but the union itself, no.

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There is a long legal history there, but the U.S. code says they are, and some interpretations of the law could be read that way. It's entirely within the realm of published discussion that they could be declared to have the same rights as people under the first amendment, and since money=speech, they could do whatever they wanted.

 

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QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 10:00 AM)
he left wing opposition does it too, but not nearly as loudly or effectively as the right wing's fringe.

 

Oh, I wouldn't say that. The left wing fringe is just as loud and effective.

 

but anyways, check this out

 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109314

 

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:lolhitting

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 04:44 PM)
From the first reports out of the Supreme Court today, a majority of justices seemed to be leaning towards the side of eliminating every corporate campaign finance limitation on the books.

 

(Tonight's speech by the President, brought to you by Wellpoint insurance).

 

Justice Kennedy, who often plays a swing vote role, spoke repeatedly of "an ongoing chill" on the speech of corporations and other harms caused by the McCain-Feingold law that banned independent corporate spending on campaigns.

 

I guess corporations bribing congress with billions just isn't enough.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 9, 2009 -> 05:01 PM)
I don't understand that. Corporations are run by people but they aren't people themselves. That they have rights is understood, but human rights? Come on now.

 

They are treated as fictional persons who have the same/ similar legal rights to actual persons.

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I was reading Huffpo comments yesterday and I had no idea there were so many Truthers on that site. They get hostile if you challenge them too.

 

edit: whoops, I thought I posted this in the Dem thread.

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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 03:42 PM)
haha, did you challenge?

I don't actually post there, I just read. Maybe I should post there because there is an echo chamber effect (not as bad as Dailykos but it's still there). They would probably think I was a Freerepublic troll though.

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fake naivety on my part. Most people have literally no understanding of Marxism, communism, socialism, nazism, Stalinism, 20/19/18/17th etc century history, capitalism/ modern economics or most other crap politicians emotionally play games with.

 

"More czars than the USSR!" :facepalm:

 

I recently had someone try to argue to me that the October Revolution put Marx into power with a socialist system first and then Lenin came along a while latter to install communism (socialism->communism slippery slope). :facepalm:

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 12, 2009 -> 05:59 PM)
fake naivety on my part. Most people have literally no understanding of Marxism, communism, socialism, nazism, Stalinism, 20/19/18/17th etc century history, capitalism/ modern economics or most other crap politicians emotionally play games with.

 

"More czars than the USSR!" :facepalm:

 

I recently had someone try to argue to me that the October Revolution put Marx into power with a socialist system first and then Lenin came along a while latter to install communism (socialism->communism slippery slope). :facepalm:

Man that is funny as s***. The communists KILLED the czar. I think I learned that in 6th grade.

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