bmags Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 06:01 PM) Then you need to study Russia a little better, becase the KGB has their own set of interests seperate from either Medvedev OR Putin (thoughly obviously at times in concert). Not really, because I'm referring to John McCain's reiterated phrase where he'd say "I looked into his eyes and saw K.G.B." and then smile showing how tough on the cold war he was. thanks for the accusation though! Come again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 12:09 PM) Not really, because I'm referring to John McCain's reiterated phrase where he'd say "I looked into his eyes and saw K.G.B." and then smile showing how tough on the cold war he was. thanks for the accusation though! Come again! You were referring to a John McCain quote? Weird. Sorry I wasn't privy to your inside joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 06:12 PM) You were referring to a John McCain quote? Weird. Sorry I wasn't privy to your inside joke. It was a pretty covered topic and quote during Georgia/Russia conflict. condescension welcome though. edit: I easily could have just referred to Putin's KGB career to justify it, as well. Edited September 24, 2009 by bmags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 12:17 PM) It was a pretty covered topic and quote during Georgia/Russia conflict. condescension welcome though. edit: I easily could have just referred to Putin's KGB career to justify it, as well. OK well, before this gets too snarky, I apologize for being condescending, which my post was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 god, never again please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 That'll teach you all to get along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Somehow there's an argument for universal health care in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 01:38 PM) Somehow there's an argument for universal health care in there... In that picture? Yea. Ewwww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Not sure if i posted this. http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/bush-torture Too long not to just link. Hell of an article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 04:44 PM) Not sure if i posted this. http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/bush-torture Too long not to just link. Hell of an article. He quoted my friend Tony in that article. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Okay hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 Grab the popcorn and read the comments in this one... Sanford Bike Accident Leaves Wrists Sprained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 05:55 PM) Grab the popcorn and read the comments in this one... Sanford Bike Accident Leaves Wrists Sprained The jokes are just too easy to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 24, 2009 Share Posted September 24, 2009 (edited) Where do people get these kinds of ideas? (rhetorical question, I know the answer) This is from a facebook chat I had earlier. This is what happens when you listen to too much talk radio, he honestly believes that all liberals are disgusting pieces of s***, and since he has observed that I'm not one, that I can't possibly be a liberal. Him why do you consider your self a lib? 6:49pm Me complicated answer but as a general statement w/o getting too far into the nitty gritty i believe in equal opportunity for everyone and social freedom 6:51pm Him You've served in the Military, You're Married, you have kids. Those are all Conservative American Family Values. You are the opposite of the Liberal Ideal. 6:53pm Him Liberal ideas are "Humans are causing global warming, no more Children, only Abortion." and "Marriage is a Christian thing, no Marriage, everyone live in Freedom from Christianity! no religion." and " the Military is a bunch of cold blooded murders, no Guns! PEACE!" and blah blah blah... 6:53pmKeith not really, all those are stereotypes to be honest. you probably get that from TV i don't know anyone like that weed-smoking hippies who burn american flags at pro-communist rallies and who make secret islamic pacts to destroy america. 6:55pmJachin Equal Opportunity for everyone? that is a Free Market Capitalist Idea. - When Liberal Politician takes hard working Americans Tax payer dollars and give it as a GOVT handout to some one simply for their Skin color, that's completely UNFAIR. 6:56pmKeith equal opportunity would be giving everyone an education making sure kids are taken care of to the extent possible, have food to eat etc. not handouts unless you count someone needing unemployment for a couple of years while they get themselves together. people abuse the system but not everyone 6:58pmKeith as an adult, for the most part it's all about the individual, and not interfering with how he/she lives their life if they don't hurt anybody else Edited September 24, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 06:04 PM) Where do people get these kinds of ideas? (rhetorical question, I know the answer) This is from a facebook chat I had earlier. This is what happens when you listen to too much talk radio, he honestly believes that all liberals are disgusting pieces of s***, and since he has observed that I'm not one, that I can't possibly be a liberal. You're more "conservative" then you allow yourself to admit. But the guy's a moron to say what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 08:38 PM) You're more "conservative" then you allow yourself to admit. But the guy's a moron to say what he said. I know that I'm pretty close to the line but what puts me to the left of center is where I see the role of government. I used to be about where Balta is and I moved to the right a few steps. The poor guy though, he means well. I can tell he gets all of his information almost exclusively from talk radio and prime-time opinion shows on Fox. He told me that Reagan always balanced the budget and when I told him Reagan never had any balanced budgets he said it was because the Democrats earmarked it all. lol. the last line in that chat is somewhere where I firmly agree with conservatives. But it's not in contradiction to some basic liberal ideas either. Edited September 25, 2009 by lostfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 Interesting reader email from Sullivan's blog... Of course they are screaming 'socialism'. They've been doing that since the 50s at least. They're not talking about economic redistribution of wealth - they never have been. They've been talking about redistribution of privilege this whole time. They called MLK a communist because he wanted blacks to have the same rights as whites, and to them that was a redistribution of the privilege that whites had 'earned'. In their view, white, Christian, heterosexuals have earned something that gays, non-Christians, and non-heteros have failed to work hard enough at. It's been a class war from the outset, just not one based around income or net worth - mostly because the whites in the south were economically pretty bad off and blacks in the north were catching up to them. This picture shows they were pushing the same buttons half a century ago that they are today. Anti-christ, communism - it's all the same as it is today and is well known code. It's why the protesters will decry socialism today but wouldn't have under Bush - it's all tied to race and other social objectives and has nothing really to do with taxation, deficits, and big government. You probably missed it when you came to the US, but this is pretty old game - particularly to guys like Carter that grew up around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 12:32 PM) Interesting reader email from Sullivan's blog... Those things are true, for SOME of the people complaining. Not sure what % the "some" is, and neither are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 12:51 PM) Those things are true, for SOME of the people complaining. Not sure what % the "some" is, and neither are you. Not sure what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 12:54 PM) Not sure what that means. It means that you are taking the motivations of some % of a group, and applying it to all of them. Its called stereotyping, or if used against a specific class or race of people, its called bigotry. Something I'm pretty sure you'd say is bad. But the author, with your apparent agreement, is doing just that. Ironically, the very picture he used is a perfect illustration of stereotyping and unfounded categorization, the exact thing he is supposedly railing against. "the cause" is not racism or class warfare - it is simply the motivation for SOME of those people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 01:01 PM) It means that you are taking the motivations of some % of a group, and applying it to all of them. Really? I thought I said this: Interesting reader email from Sullivan's blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 07:38 AM) Fox News Producer Caught Rallying 9/12 Protest Crowd Ouch. But I'll bet there are many hundreds or thousands of producers and reporters who have done this. They want the story they are covering "their story" to be the lead at 10:00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 01:02 PM) Really? I thought I said this: I meant the royal "you", but, do you agree with the writer here or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 25, 2009 -> 01:18 PM) I meant the royal "you", but, do you agree with the writer here or not? To some extent. I wouldn't paint with a broad brush but when you go to a rally and stand next to someone holding a sign like the one in that photo, I have to wonder what kind of person you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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