The Democrat Thread

[Balta1701]

There was a letter to the editor in my local paper here this morning from a guy saying he's a business owner and the reason he's not hiring anyone is that he's scared by Obama's tax increases.

 

Included in that same letter were short, one-sentence rants saying "and have you seen the tuition prices at UT lately!?" and "And none of our customers have any money to spend either".

 

I laughed.

[lostfan]

 

You guys get to lecture about long wars now?

I don't recall mr. G ever being a fan of the Afghanistan war

[Balta1701]

I don't recall mr. G ever being a fan of the Afghanistan war

Of course not...Republicans never liked that war, it wasn't exciting enough, that's why we wound up in Iraq.

[Balta1701]

Black, Muslim....same difference.

At about 25 seconds in, he quite astutely points out to the crowd that “All y’all dumb motherf***ers don’t even know my opinion on s***.”

[StrangeSox]

Tennessee: Still not far enough from Ground Zero

 

MURFREESBORO, TENN. -- For more than 30 years, the Muslim community in this Nashville suburb has worshipped quietly in a variety of makeshift spaces -- a one-bedroom apartment, an office behind a Lube Express -- attracting little notice even after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

 

But when the community's leaders proposed a 52,900-square-foot Islamic center with a school and a swimming pool this year, the vehement backlash from their neighbors caught them by surprise. Opponents crowded county meetings and held a noisy protest in the town square that drew hundreds, some carrying signs such as "Keep Tennessee Terror Free."

 

[Balta1701]

Tennessee: Still not far enough from Ground Zero

Of course not. They need places that are really far away. Like Orange County. That's about as far away as you can get in the lower 48. That's a respectful distance and I'm sure no one would have any trouble with that.

[Balta1701]

Things you may never see in this thread again: long excerpts from Ron Paul, with no sarcasm or ridicule involved.

Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses.

 

Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia.

 

It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty.

 

The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservative’s aggressive wars.

 

The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam.

 

This is all about hate and Islamaphobia.

 

We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended.

 

Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored.

[NorthSideSox72]

Things you may never see in this thread again: long excerpts from Ron Paul, with no sarcasm or ridicule involved.

Wow. That was well-stated.

 

[kapkomet]

Let's see... about 30 pages ago I said this is an attention whore story - and gee, I think it's not changed.

[bmags]

that's because things get built overnight.

[bmags]

as soon as the daily show's opening segment is available I am going to post it.

[StrangeSox]

as soon as the daily show's opening segment is available I am going to post it.

 

That was epic.

[Balta1701]

Let's see... about 30 pages ago I said this is an attention whore story - and gee, I think it's not changed.

Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are the Muslims.

[kapkomet]

Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are the Muslims.

 

No, I don't... I seem to think Imam whatthef***ever his name is - is an attention whore, not the whole religion, but thanks for being the labelist that you are.

 

He knew this would happen.

[bmags]

"the" is an article.

 

Anyway back to intelligent conversation, washington monthly with two great pieces, first:

The dropout factories-

Talks about colleges woefully failing their jobs in graduating their students (hint: other schools that take much more at risk students do much better jobs)

second:

the intro to a new way of ranking. I post this in the dem thread because of the amt. of swipes at hedge fund managers.

Here is the intro

[kapkomet]

"the" is an article.

 

That is the most f***ing intelligent thing I have ever read.

[bmags]

That is the most f***ing intelligent thing I have ever read.

Here's two different statements, kap:

Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are the Muslims.

Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are Muslims.

 

That in context denote different things.

 

Here's an example that may be easier:

Who broke the pots?

Who broke pots?

[Rex Kickass]

"Attention Hall" Imam Feisal of the proposed Burlington Coat Factory Community Center speaks in Bahrain and says truly radical things.

 

Linky

 

"How many Americans know Bahrain has a US naval base and a Christian and Jewish community and that Bahraini Ambassador to the US Huda Nonoo is Jewish?

 

"How many Muslims know there is a sizeable community of Shi'ites in Bahrain? So we need to be more proactive in educating Muslims."

 

Imam Feisal was in the country as part of a US government-sponsored trip to Bahrain, the UAE and Qatar to discuss Muslim life in America and religious tolerance.

 

He told religious leaders in Bahrain that the most important conflicts in the world were between the children of Abraham, whether the Israeli/Palestinian conflict or the US/Iran conflict and the challenge for them was how they could play a role in bringing peace.

 

"We are Christians, Jews and Muslims, but one of our faults is instead of worshipping God, we worship our religion and use that to cause division between us," said Imam Feisal.

 

"The sense of brotherhood and unity that the prophets had for each other as servants of the true God is the primary lesson we should all learn.

 

"The demand is on us (Muslims) to feel a special brotherhood with the Christian and Jewish faiths and certainly our own.

 

"We shouldn't see differences, but see the differences that unite us and are part of one theme.

 

"It's time we also saw that if we followed the laws of Moses, Jesus and Mohammed they were not opposed to each other."

 

Imam Feisal said most Western universities had departments of Islamic studies but departments of Christian or Jewish studies were rarely seen in this part of the world.

 

He said it was important for those in the Islamic world to study the history and culture of Christianity and Judaism.

 

On politics and religion, Imam Feisal said the Islamic world was facing tension between the mosque and state, just as the West had between the church and state centuries ago.

 

"We need to find a way to infuse our religious practices in politics without politicising our religion," he said.

[bmags]

how dare he.

[Balta1701]

A city cab driver is in the hospital after being stabbed by a passenger who allegedly asked if he was Muslim, police tell NY1.

 

Investigators with the New York City Police Department say it all began Monday night when a 21-year-old man hailed a cab at 24th Street and Second Avenue in Manhattan.

 

Police say the passenger asked the driver, "Are you Muslim?" When the driver said yes the passenger pulled a knife and slashed him in the throat, arm and lip.

Link

From a statement released by the driver:

On Tuesday, August 24th, 2010 Mr. Sharif picked up the perpetrator at 24th Street and Second Avenue, his first fare for the shift, and headed toward Times Square. The man, 21, started out friendly, asking Mr. Sharif about where he was from, how long he had been in America, if he was Muslim and if he was observing fast during Ramadan. He then first became silent for a few minutes and then suddenly started cursing and screaming. There, at about 6:15pm at Third Avenue between 40th and 41st Streets, he yelled, "Assalamu Alaikum. Consider this a checkpoint," and then slashed Mr. Sharif across the neck. As Mr. Sharif went to knock the knife out, the perpetrator, continuing to scream loudly, cut the taxi driver in the face (from nose to upper lip), arm and hand.

Another report says the assailant was quite intoxicated at the time.

[Balta1701]

Former RNC Chairman and Bush 2004 campaign manager Ken Mehlman comes out of the closet.

[kapkomet]

"Attention Hall" Imam Feisal of the proposed Burlington Coat Factory Community Center speaks in Bahrain and says truly radical things.

 

Linky

 

 

I love google, and so does Imamawhateverthehell.

[lostfan]

Here's two different statements, kap:

Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are the Muslims.

Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are Muslims.

 

That in context denote different things.

 

Here's an example that may be easier:

Who broke the pots?

Who broke pots?

Let's eat Grandma!

Let's eat, Grandma!

[kapkomet]

I'm hungry.

 

Lost, I so wanted to say something else on facebook to your car post... but it's a family site... you mostly got the idea though

 

[lostfan]

Dude. Do you see how much profanity I use on Facebook? Like I care what you write there. lol.