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Some narrowing in the Generic Congressional ballot over the course of the week, thanks to a new Politico/Battleground poll showing a tied generic ballot and a PPP poll showing a one point edge for Democrats in the generic ballot. The TPM poll average shows a 5 point edge for the Republicans on the generic ballot. That might still look like a huge gap, but on Monday, that edge was 7.1 points.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 12:51 PM)
She called Mike a Senator? I didn't catch that part in my first reading. LOL.

 

 

More craziness:

O'DONNELL: They are — they are doing that here in the United States. American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains. So they're already into this experiment.

 

Glad to see the GOP endorsing her now. This is the quality of candidate populist movements based on anger and a good dose of anti-intellectualism get you. Raving idiots.

 

Rand Paul. Christine O'Donnell. Sarah Angle. And the movement is largely swayed by Palin and Beck.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 07:42 PM)
More craziness:

 

 

Glad to see the GOP endorsing her now. This is the quality of candidate populist movements based on anger and a good dose of anti-intellectualism get you. Raving idiots.

 

Rand Paul. Christine O'Donnell. Sarah Angle. And the movement is largely swayed by Palin and Beck.

Its funny how this is all working out. Tea Party gets going, the GOP decides to co-opt it, they succeed in primaries, and now they will likely bury the GOP's chances of winning the Senate.

 

I'm actually glad to see new blood, but its a little sad that these are the candidates they are coming up with. There has to be better there.

 

In all seriousness, are there any Tea Party-supported candidates that have won primaries so far that are not crazy in the way those three are? I genuinely hope so.

 

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 08:05 PM)
Joe Miller has some pretty terrible ideas, but I wouldn't put him quite into the same category as the other ones.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Miller_(Alaska_politician)

 

More anti-science crap, though.

Ideas I disagree with are one thing. Being outright crazy like that trio mentioned earlier is another.

 

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Some of those ideas are pretty crazy.

 

More insanity from O'Donnell, now fully endorsed by the GOP:

AIDS Gets Too Much Gov't Money, Condoms Wouldn't Stop It

 

She also has some pretty crazy ideas on porn and masturbation.

 

Also bought into the 'Clinton killed Vince Foster' crap.

 

The Tea Party candidates are simply conservatives. They're on the right-wing fringe end and sort of crazy for the most part, but they back common conservative ideologies. It's not some brand new movement and it never has been. It isn't libertarian. It isn't about more personal freedom.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 10:28 PM)
Some of those ideas are pretty crazy.

 

More insanity from O'Donnell, now fully endorsed by the GOP:

AIDS Gets Too Much Gov't Money, Condoms Wouldn't Stop It

 

She also has some pretty crazy ideas on porn and masturbation.

 

Also bought into the 'Clinton killed Vince Foster' crap.

 

The Tea Party candidates are simply conservatives. They're on the right-wing fringe end and sort of crazy for the most part, but they back common conservative ideologies. It's not some brand new movement and it never has been. It isn't libertarian. It isn't about more personal freedom.

What you are saying is true about these three candidates. Its not necessarily true of the movement as a whole. That's part of the problem I see them having, is a lack of cohesion. You basically have the far-right-wing crazy conservatives getting nominated, and they represent some PART of the Tea Party mentality, but its not quite the same.

 

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 09:05 PM)
Joe Miller has some pretty terrible ideas, but I wouldn't put him quite into the same category as the other ones.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Miller_(Alaska_politician)

 

More anti-science crap, though.

 

He also accepted $14,000 in federal subsidies to grow and then to not grow barley on his farm in Alaska. Yet his position on the federal budget is:

 

The only answer is to return our federal government to the limits prescribed by our Constitution.

 

Somehow I don't think the founders had "giving business people a subsidy for farmland that they own but don't farm" on their mind when they wrote the Constitution.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 07:42 PM)
More craziness:

 

 

Glad to see the GOP endorsing her now. This is the quality of candidate populist movements based on anger and a good dose of anti-intellectualism get you. Raving idiots.

 

Rand Paul. Christine O'Donnell. Sarah Angle. And the movement is largely swayed by Palin and Beck.

 

I wouldn't necessarily put Rand Paul in that category.

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QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 01:00 PM)
I wouldn't necessarily put Rand Paul in that category.

 

Maybe not necessarily anti-intellectual, but definitely on the fringe and extreme side of things. He did argue on National Television this summer that private businesses should have the right to refuse service to people based upon race, when he offered his opinion that Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitutional.

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Well, this isnt very smart to say:

Huckabee Opposes Insurance For People With Pre-Existing Conditions: Their Like a Burnt Down House

"It sounds so good, and it's such a warm message to say we're not gonna deny anyone from a preexisting condition," Huckabee explained at the Value Voters Summit today. "Look, I think that sounds terrific, but I want to ask you something from a common sense perspective. Suppose we applied that principle [to] our property insurance. And you can call your insurance agent and say, "I'd like to buy some insurance for my house." He'd say, "Tell me about your house." "Well sir, it burned down yesterday, but I'd like to insure it today." And he'll say "I'm sorry, but we can't insure it after it's already burned." Well, no preexisting conditions."
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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 09:05 PM)
Joe Miller has some pretty terrible ideas, but I wouldn't put him quite into the same category as the other ones.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Miller_(Alaska_politician)

 

More anti-science crap, though.

Lisa Murkowski appears to be launching a write-in campaign for the seat tonight.

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 07:33 AM)
What you are saying is true about these three candidates. Its not necessarily true of the movement as a whole. That's part of the problem I see them having, is a lack of cohesion. You basically have the far-right-wing crazy conservatives getting nominated, and they represent some PART of the Tea Party mentality, but its not quite the same.

 

It's who is being elected and supported under the Tea Party. I'm not seeing any tea party challengers who are not just social conservatives who appear to be deeply ignorant.

 

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 17, 2010 -> 12:00 PM)
I wouldn't necessarily put Rand Paul in that category.

 

I would.

 

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QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 16, 2010 -> 08:51 AM)
On the one hand, regardless of how she dressed, she shouldn't be subject to harassment or any other ill treatment. There is no excuse for that.

 

On the other hand, I'd agree that if she does dress like that while working, she is clearly using her body to her advantage. And there is nothing wrong with that.

In any case, as I said before, there is a really easy solution to all of this.

 

/out of exile

 

You're just jealous. :lol:

 

I couldn't help it, the joke was just right there.

 

/exile

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He sort of does have a point in that it's not so much insurance as a health care subscription (if coverage is required for those with pre-existing conditions). On the other hand, people don't usually buy property insurance in pools (as many do with health insurance).

 

That's one of the many reasons I'd prefer a single-payer system.

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QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:06 AM)
He sort of does have a point in that it's not so much insurance as a health care subscription (if coverage is required for those with pre-existing conditions). On the other hand, people don't usually buy property insurance in pools (as many do with health insurance).

 

but it's a total contradiction coming from him. i suppose the evangelical neo-cons, compassionate conservatives, had to change their stripes to remain relevant. frankly, it's not a move i respect.

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QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Sep 18, 2010 -> 12:06 AM)
He sort of does have a point in that it's not so much insurance as a health care subscription (if coverage is required for those with pre-existing conditions). On the other hand, people don't usually buy property insurance in pools (as many do with health insurance).

 

That's one of the many reasons I'd prefer a single-payer system.

I know this is a little hyperbole, but Huckabe said anyone with diabetes or cancer is a burnt down house.

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