The Democrat Thread

[FlaSoxxJim]

no way, i don't believe that.

 

Why not? It wouldn't surprise me a bit.

[southsideirish71]

Why not? It wouldn't surprise me a bit.

 

I just want to know how they got this down to a neighborhood or physical address. I mean that is some straight up pimp best buy geek squad skillz that they have going for them. Odd though, when I looked at the IP its part of a /16 allocation for the senate in general. And the router announcing that network is in DC, and not Atlanta. But then again I didn't google geoip and use some random website as part of my investigation so it must be wrong.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Republicans block debate on eliminating discrimination on employment within the military. A gay blogger posts on it. Followed by a reader comment of "All f**gots Must Die."

 

Blogger tracks the IP of the comment, traces it to one of two Senator's offices. Either Saxby Chambliss or Johnny Isakson (both Senators from Georgia) who have offices that are not far apart. And by not far, they mean in the same building.

 

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/09/all-f...s-must-die.html

 

I wouldn't be surprised if that is a frame job. It is way to convenient, with a ton of info that really isn't public.

[NorthSideSox72]

I wouldn't be surprised if that is a frame job. It is way to convenient, with a ton of info that really isn't public.

Definitely possible.

 

Still disgusting that people think this way though, and clearly some do. The whole argument that doing this would hurt military morale is beyond lame. Of course it will hurt morale, it probably hurt it a lot more when the did racial unit integration too, but there comes a point when you realize you have to do it for the long term good of the military and the country. This is one of those times.

 

[BigSqwert]

Poll: 1 In 5 Americans Believe Obama Is A Cactus

[HuskyCaucasian]

Big health insurers to stop selling new child-only policies

Anthem Blue Cross, Aetna Inc. and others say they will make the move as soon as Thursday when parts of the new healthcare law take effect. They cite potentially huge and unexpected costs for insuring children.

 

Major health insurance companies in California and other states have decided to stop selling policies for children rather than comply with a new federal healthcare law that bars them from rejecting youngsters with preexisting medical conditions.

 

Anthem Blue Cross, Aetna Inc. and others will halt new child-only policies in California, Illinois, Florida, Connecticut and elsewhere as early as Thursday when provisions of the nation's new healthcare law take effect, including a requirement that insurers cover children under age 19 regardless of their health histories.

 

The action will apply only to new coverage sought for children and not to existing child-only plans, family policies or insurance provided to youngsters through their parents' employers. An estimated 80,000 California children currently without insurance — and as many as 500,000 nationwide — would be affected, according to experts.

 

Insurers said they were acting because the new federal requirement could create huge and unexpected costs for covering children. They said the rule might prompt parents to buy policies only after their kids became sick, producing a glut of ill youngsters to insure. As a result, they said, many companies would flee the marketplace, leaving behind a handful to shoulder a huge financial burden.

 

The insurers said they now sell relatively few child-only policies, and thus the changes will have a small effect on families.

[bigruss]

Poll: 1 In 5 Americans Believe Obama Is A Cactus

I am actually disappointed that I know these are Onion articles before clicking on it, it added so much more fun when I didnt know until halfway reading through it.

[Rex Kickass]

I wouldn't be surprised if that is a frame job. It is way to convenient, with a ton of info that really isn't public.

 

So you think a blogger in Brooklyn planned to have a random Republican Senator framed by planting someone to hack a wifi connection in Atlanta to make a comment on his blog post?

 

Doubt it. And this frame job wouldn't make sense. If he really wanted to punish someone, it would be one of the Republican Senate candidates running for reelection, Chambliss is not up for reelection in November, as far as I'm aware.

 

To his credit, what little it deserves, Senator Chambliss seems to be taking this decision extremely seriously. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/0...estigating.html

 

A slur against gays left on the blog Joe.My.God was traced back to the Atlanta office of Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) on Tuesday. Chambliss has confirmed to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution that he is investigating whether one of his staffers left the comment, which suggested that all gays "must die."

 

Blog readers helped trace the IP address of the commenter to either Chambliss' office or the office of Sen. Johnny Isakson, nearby. "Among the fields in which gay people are over-represented is the IT field," said one of the bloggers who helped pin down the source.

 

Isakson has already declared that the message did not come from his staff.

 

"We have seen the allegations and are moving quickly to understand the facts. This office has not and will not tolerate any activity of the sort alleged," Chambliss spokeswoman Bronwyn Lance Chester told Politerati. "Once we have ascertained whether these claims are true, we will take the appropriate steps."

 

Reporter Jim Galloway told Joe.My.God he's hoping for further confirmation and possibly the name of the staffer today.

[Jenksismyhero]

So you think a blogger in Brooklyn planned to have a random Republican Senator framed by planting someone to hack a wifi connection in Atlanta to make a comment on his blog post?

 

Doubt it. And this frame job wouldn't make sense. If he really wanted to punish someone, it would be one of the Republican Senate candidates running for reelection, Chambliss is not up for reelection in November, as far as I'm aware.

 

To his credit, what little it deserves, Senator Chambliss seems to be taking this decision extremely seriously. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/0...estigating.html

 

Seems a bit odd that someone would take the time to investigate the source of a comment like that. Comment sections on blogs and websites have these types of things ALL the time. I seriously doubt he just randomly decided to check the source of that comment.

[Rex Kickass]

Seems a bit odd that someone would take the time to investigate the source of a comment like that. Comment sections on blogs and websites have these types of things ALL the time. I seriously doubt he just randomly decided to check the source of that comment.

 

Unlike a CNN or Yahoo story, that doesn't happen all the time on his blog. When I kept a blog and I got a nastygram, I always tried to figure out who it was.

[Balta1701]

I think there's a very nice point illustrated by this article on the departure of Larry Summers from his role.

Congressional Republicans - and some Democrats - have been more critical of Summers's tenure. House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) recently called on Obama to fire both Summers and Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, accusing the White House of pursuing misguided economic policies that ran up record deficits without creating jobs or significantly improving the economy.

 

Many prominent economists have rebutted that view, arguing that Obama's economic policies prevented last year's recession from turning into a depression. Still, with unemployment at 9.6 percent and Democrats getting battered in the polls, even some administration loyalists say they were surprised that it has taken so long for Obama to recast his message on the economy and reshape his economic team.

Did you catch it? Republicans and some Democrats have been critical of Summers...because of policies that ran up the deficit.

 

The only possible criticism of him...from the right. The idea that Democrats might be unhappy with him because he pushed back against the concept of a stimulus package large enough to fill the output gap...never crosses the mind of the writer or the reader.

[mr_genius]

Republicans block debate on eliminating discrimination on employment within the military. A gay blogger posts on it. Followed by a reader comment of "All f**gots Must Die."

 

Blogger tracks the IP of the comment, traces it to one of two Senator's offices. Either Saxby Chambliss or Johnny Isakson (both Senators from Georgia) who have offices that are not far apart. And by not far, they mean in the same building.

 

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/09/all-f...s-must-die.html

 

the link you posted isn't working. i would be interested in seeing what they are basing their source analysis on.

[Balta1701]

the link you posted isn't working. i would be interested in seeing what they are basing their source analysis on.

The swear filter here has replaced 2 characters with "*". Look at the link and try to figure out which 2 characters you need to type in manually to get it to work.

[mr_genius]

The swear filter here has replaced 2 characters with "*". Look at the link and try to figure out which 2 characters you need to type in manually to get it to work.

 

I just tried the geo ip locater they used. I put in an IP that I know originates in Springfield IL, the tool claimed the IP originated in Rockford. Then used another GEO IP locator, this same IP was shown as originating in Chicago, IL. Tried another one, and it got it right, Springfield IL.

 

 

[Jenksismyhero]

I just tried the geo ip locater they used. I put in an IP that I know originates in Springfield IL, the tool claimed the IP originated in Rockford. Then used another GEO IP locator, this same IP was shown as originating in Chicago, IL. Tried another one, and it got it right, Springfield IL.

 

So basically, they're more than likely full of it.

[Balta1701]

A slur against gays left on the blog Joe.My.God was traced back to the Atlanta office of Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.) on Tuesday. Chambliss has confirmed to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution that he is investigating whether one of his staffers left the comment, which suggested that all gays "must die."

 

Blog readers helped trace the IP address of the commenter to either Chambliss' office or the office of Sen. Johnny Isakson, nearby. "Among the fields in which gay people are over-represented is the IT field," said one of the bloggers who helped pin down the source.

 

Isakson has already declared that the message did not come from his staff.

WaPo

And hearsay from the blog involved in the matter:

I've just gotten off the phone with Atlanta Journal-Constitution political writer Jim Galloway who says that Sen. Saxby Chambliss has confirmed that the "All f**gots must die" comment left here on JMG earlier today did indeed come from his Atlanta office. Galloway reports that Chambliss told him his office is conducting an internal investigation. For now Chambliss' spokesperson has issued a preliminary statement:

 

...

Galloway tells me a further confirmation, and hopefully, the identity of the commenter, should come tomorrow. I've also talked to producers at CNN and two Fox affiliates who may be covering the story. Thanks, as always, to our worthy JMG geeks for all their help!

[NorthSideSox72]

LOL, here is what having O'Donnell win the DE primary has done.

 

If Castle had won, he'd have a 55-37 edge over Coons (D).

 

With O'Donnell as the nominee, she is trailing Coons 55-39.

 

Article.

 

[mr_genius]

So basically, they're more than likely full of it.

 

well, i wouldn't necessarily say that. but their accusation could be considered a reckless one, as they didn't have total certainty of the location. but i suppose that's one of the many uses of the internet. reckless accusations.

Edited September 23, 2010 by mr_genius

[bmags]

hahaha

""Among the fields in which gay people are over-represented is the IT field," said one of the bloggers who helped pin down the source."

 

that's f***ing awesome.

[Rex Kickass]

So basically, they're more than likely full of it.

 

Turns out they weren't. And it should be noted that the blogger isn't asking for a head to roll, just an apology.

 

From the Atlanta Journal Constitution http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-e...-it-619348.html

 

WASHINGTON -- U.S. Sen. Saxby Chambliss' office has determined it was indeed the source of a highly publicized homosexual-bashing slur on an Internet site.

 

But in a statement, Chambliss' office said it has not discovered exactly who was behind the slur, and has turned the matter over to the Senate sergeant at arms. The office employs 42 people.

 

"The [sergeant at arms] has worked side by side with our personnel to determine whether the comment in question emanated from our office. That appears to be the case," an unsigned statement from Chambliss' press office read.

 

"There has not been a determination as to who posted the comment," the statement read. "That part of the review is ongoing, and is now in the hands of the Senate sergeant at arms.”

 

Spokeswomen for Chambliss did not return a reporter's phone calls or e-mails seeking more details.

 

Tuesday, a poster identifying himself as "Jimmy" wrote "All [gays] must die" on Joe.My.God., a blog dedicated to gay and lesbian issues -- just as Republican Chambliss and other senators were debating a Democratic proposal to repeal the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. The proposal failed.

 

The posting was traced to an Internet Protocol address matching Chambliss' office, but it's unclear whether it was one of his offices in Georgia or in Washington.

[StrangeSox]

Shocking.

 

 

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/23/docume...-iraq-november/

[bmags]

matt yglesias had one of the best blogging days in the history of blogging.

yglesias.thinkprogress.org

[StrangeSox]

Blatantly racist Tea Party candidate in New York (no, not Paladino this time).

 

In the midst of this onslaught against our youth, parents need to be reminded that they have a natural obligation, as essential as providing food and shelter, to instill in their children an acceptance of appropriate ethnic boundaries for socialization and for marriage

 

[T.S.] Eliot described some conditions for an optimal society: ‘The population should be homogeneous. . . . What is still more important is unity of religious background; and reasons of race and culture combine to make any large number of free-thinking Jews undesirable. There must be a proper balance between urban and rural, industrial and agricultural development. And a spirit of excessive tolerance is to be deprecated.’”

Those are Eliot's words, but he's quoting him favorably.

[NorthSideSox72]

Blatantly racist Tea Party candidate in New York (no, not Paladino this time).

 

 

 

Those are Eliot's words, but he's quoting him favorably.

Tea Party? The words Tea Party don't even appear in that article. It appears he's a racist, so I hope he loses, and it seems like he will. But let's be clear - there is no mention that he is in any way affiliated with the Tea Party.

 

The GOP who backed him, though, may want to re-think that decision.

 

[NorthSideSox72]

Shocking.

 

 

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/09/23/docume...-iraq-november/

No surprise there. Its been pretty well known for a while that Rusmfeld and the other neo-con hawks that Bush surrounded himself with were looking for a reason to do Iraq. Its still, to this day, amazing to me that the public didn't see it in 2002 and 2003 during the run-up. A lot of evidence was already right there to see.