The Democrat Thread

[southsider2k5]

Perhaps than you can specify exactly what it is?

 

My questioning the legality and methodology of the search doesn't mean I condone anything anti-gay. It is ignorant to imply that.

[Balta1701]

My questioning the legality and methodology of the search doesn't mean I condone anything anti-gay. It is ignorant to imply that.

Do you question the legality of an IP address search when this site does it?

 

Do you really think the FBI would turn its back on someone having inappropriately breached federal network security?

[southsider2k5]

Do you question the legality of an IP address search when this site does it?

 

Do you really think the FBI would turn its back on someone having inappropriately breached federal network security?

 

This site returns nothing like a specific office on an IP address.

 

I have no doubt the the FBI would do exactly what their bosses tell them to do.

[Balta1701]

This site returns nothing like a specific office on an IP address.

 

I have no doubt the the FBI would do exactly what their bosses tell them to do.

This really is one of the most bizarre cases of improper behavior on the left that you've ever made.

 

By some mythical process that took a matter of minutes and clearly was illegal, an IP address was tracked to a government source, the tracking process turns out to have been 100% correct on its location, the behavior of the person at that IP address was judged to be inappropriate, the Congressperson himself doesn't ask for any sort of investigation of how the track was done, fires the guy, and yet the only thing worth criticizing is the process by which the IP search was done.

[Balta1701]

The $80 million spent so far by groups outside the Democratic and Republican parties dwarfs the $16 million spent at this point for the 2006 midterms. In that election, the vast majority of money - more than 90 percent - was disclosed along with donors' identities. This year, that figure has fallen to less than half of the total, according to data analyzed by The Washington Post.

 

The trends amount to a spending frenzy conducted largely in the shadows.

 

The bulk of the money is being spent by conservatives, who have swamped their Democratic-aligned competition by 7 to 1 in recent weeks. The wave of spending is made possible in part by a series of Supreme Court rulings unleashing the ability of corporations and interest groups to spend money on politics. Conservative operatives also say they are riding the support of donors upset with Democratic policies they perceive as anti-business.

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[Rex Kickass]

My questioning the legality and methodology of the search doesn't mean I condone anything anti-gay. It is ignorant to imply that.

 

Wasn't implying anything, was trying to figure out what you meant because it seemed unclear.

[bmags]

Jim Demint is a piece of s***. An absolute piece of s***.

[NorthSideSox72]

Jim Demint is a piece of s***. An absolute piece of s***.

What did he do now?

 

[CrimsonWeltall]

What did he do now?

 

Said there shouldn't be gays or single women being teachers.

[BigSqwert]

Said there shouldn't be gays or single women being teachers.

How the f*** is this guy a member of Congress?

[StrangeSox]

These comments came at the "Greater Freedom Rally"

[CrimsonWeltall]

These comments came at the "Greater Freedom Rally"

 

Sorry, I should have specified that it's just single women who are engaging in FORNICATION. Nuns are probably ok.

[bmags]

Sorry, I should have specified that it's just single women who are engaging in FORNICATION. Nuns are probably ok.

exactly.

 

Also, gays should be banned too. We are in 1978 again.

[NorthSideSox72]

Sorry, I should have specified that it's just single women who are engaging in FORNICATION. Nuns are probably ok.

This is what I've been saying for a while, that while there is anger and stupidity on both sides of the aisle, the right half of the GOP in the past decade does have a serious monopoly on hate and bigotry. Or at least, the right half of the GOP politicians do - not sure that number applies to their voters.

 

[Balta1701]

The Republicans here are going to hate it if they click through to it and disagree with everything, but I think the lefties will actually want to read this if they haven't seen it yet. Matt Taibbi's Tea Party article from this month's Rolling Stone.

[Balta1701]

This header won't be fair at all but I'm going to write it. The tea party hates dogs. Someone had to say it.

A conservative group in Missouri is picking up the backing of the Tea Party and Joe The Plumber in its quest to stop the Humane Society and other animal rights groups from passing "radical" anti-puppy mill legislation

 

The measure, which can be read in full here, is called Proposition B or the "Puppy Mill Cruelty Prevention Act." It aims to help eliminate the "3000 puppy mills" in Missouri that constitute "30% of all puppy mills in the U.S.," according to Michael Markarian, the Chief Operating Officer of the Humane Society.

 

"This measure would provide common sense standards for the care of dogs," he told TPM, including sufficient food and clean water, vet care, regular exercise, and adequate rest between breeding cycles, among other things. Markarian said the measure only applies to "commercial dog breeding facilities" that have more than 10 breeding females who they use for "producing puppies for the pet trade."

 

Sounds pretty straightforward, no?

 

Well, according to the Alliance For Truth, the main force behind the anti-Prop B movement, there is something much more nefarious afoot (er, apaw) in the Humane Society's measure. The Alliance For Truth claims that the Humane Society of the United States has a "radical agenda" and is "misleading the public with its intentions on Prop B. The society seeks only to raise the cost of breeding dogs, making it ever-more difficult for middle-class American families to be dog-owners."

 

Anita Andrews from Alliance For Truth told TPM that it's a "deceptive, lying bill" that is "trying to purposefully get rid of the breeders." The state of Missouri, she said, has been given a bad rap as "the puppy mill capitol" of the U.S. but "in truth we have the best ribbon breeders in the country." And, Andrews said, the state already has anti-cruelty laws on the books.

 

"They don't like animals," she said of the Humane Society.

 

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The Tea Party has also gotten on board the anti-Prop B bandwagon. A meeting called "Vote NO on Proposition B" on October 12 is advertised on websites for the Missouri Tea Party and the Tea Party Patriots. The event, held at Coach's Pizza World, is being organized by the Mexico Tea Party, which activist Ron Beedle told TPM is a relatively new chapter of the Tea Party. This is their first meeting, he said, and Prop B is about the "government or the big company trying to tell people what to do."

 

The Missouri chapter of Phyllis Schlafly's conservative Eagle Forum has also gotten behind the movement, calling the measure (.pdf) part of a "hoax."

 

Markarian said that the Alliance For Truth's claims "are nonsensical arguments. The Humane Society celebrates pets everyday."

 

"We want people to have pets," he said. "We just want the pets to come from good sources." Accusations like these, he said, are "par for the course when these groups cannot defend the cruelty of puppy mills."

[StrangeSox]

Well, according to the Alliance For Truth, the main force behind the anti-Prop B movement, there is something much more nefarious afoot (er, apaw) in the Humane Society's measure. The Alliance For Truth claims that the Humane Society of the United States has a "radical agenda" and is "misleading the public with its intentions on Prop B. The society seeks only to raise the cost of breeding dogs, making it ever-more difficult for middle-class American families to be dog-owners."

 

Right, because we have such a huge shortage of pets who need homes.

[lostfan]

When I drive to work I go past an "Ehrlich for Governor" sign with a big confederate flag under it. I know what they think that's supposed to mean when people see it but when I see it, it's just... not. Imagine a voice saying this in your head: "WE NEED TO TAKE BACK AMURRICA FROM DEM DAM LIBRUL SOSHAL-LISTS N DA TARISTS RUNNIN DIS COUNTRY SO WE CAN LIVE BY DA CONSTERTUSHIN AGAIN AND GET THE DAM GUBMINT IN OUR LIVES AN LOWER OW-UR TASSES TA KEEP DEM DAMN COLORED FOLK N MESSI-CANS FROM MOOCHIN OFF US HARD WORKIN' 'MERRICANS, AN GET DA GUBMINT OUTTA OW-UR LIVES!"

 

I'm sure people object to this but that's just what I see. It just is.

[bmags]

When I drive to work I go past an "Ehrlich for Governor" sign with a big confederate flag under it. I know what they think that's supposed to mean when people see it but when I see it, it's just... not. Imagine a voice saying this in your head: "WE NEED TO TAKE BACK AMURRICA FROM DEM DAM LIBRUL SOSHAL-LISTS N DA TARISTS RUNNIN DIS COUNTRY SO WE CAN LIVE BY DA CONSTERTUSHIN AGAIN AND GET THE DAM GUBMINT IN OUR LIVES AN LOWER OW-UR TASSES TA KEEP DEM DAMN COLORED FOLK N MESSI-CANS FROM MOOCHIN OFF US HARD WORKIN' 'MERRICANS, AN GET DA GUBMINT OUTTA OW-UR LIVES!"

 

I'm sure people object to this but that's just what I see. It just is.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archiv...ound-art/64109/

[StrangeSox]

When I drive to work I go past an "Ehrlich for Governor" sign with a big confederate flag under it. I know what they think that's supposed to mean when people see it but when I see it, it's just... not. Imagine a voice saying this in your head: "WE NEED TO TAKE BACK AMURRICA FROM DEM DAM LIBRUL SOSHAL-LISTS N DA TARISTS RUNNIN DIS COUNTRY SO WE CAN LIVE BY DA CONSTERTUSHIN AGAIN AND GET THE DAM GUBMINT IN OUR LIVES AN LOWER OW-UR TASSES TA KEEP DEM DAMN COLORED FOLK N MESSI-CANS FROM MOOCHIN OFF US HARD WORKIN' 'MERRICANS, AN GET DA GUBMINT OUTTA OW-UR LIVES!"

 

I'm sure people object to this but that's just what I see. It just is.

 

I think that encapsulates a lot of the political anger right now.

[HuskyCaucasian]

On the lighter side of life:

[HuskyCaucasian]

Obama-Clinton 2012??

The White House has emphatically denied any notion that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will replace Joe Biden as President Obama's running mate in 2012.

 

The latest wave of Hillary buzz was amplified Tuesday night when Bob Woodward, author of the new book "Obama's Wars," told CNN's John King that a possible Obama-Clinton ticket is "on the table." The idea is that Clinton would energize a 2012 campaign — particularly among women. In some scenarios, Biden, former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, would take over as secretary of state.

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Swap talk is nothing new. In August, a Time magazine writer suggested Obama should consider dumping Biden as he plans his reelection bid. "Amid two wars, a stubborn unemployment rate ... might the White House need a little star power to jump-start what could be a tougher reelection than expected?" wrote contributor Dan Fastenberg. "As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton has been striking the same tone as Team No Drama Obama, as opposed to the human gaffe machine."

 

arlier that month, former Virginia Gov. Doug Wilder wrote in a Politico op-ed piece that Obama should replace Biden with Clinton, in part because she would help win back "middle-class independent voters," who have drifted away from the president. Working-class voters, said Wilder, have always been "more enamored of Clinton." The former governor, who is African American, didn't say it, but "working class" in this context could be code for white voters, a group Hillary ran stronger among than did Obama when they opposed each other — sometimes bitterly — in the 2008 primary campaign. Wilder went on to make a case against Biden, saying his verbal blunders are not only fodder for late-night comedians but have undermined "what little confidence the public may have in him."

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The last president to make a change was Republican Gerald Ford, who replaced Vice President Nelson Rockefeller with Sen. Bob Dole in 1976 and went on to lose to a peanut farmer from Georgia named Jimmy Carter.

[Balta1701]

Mr. Cantor is the only Jewish Republican in the House and Senate (there are more than 40 Jewish Democrats), and we discuss why. "First of all," he laughs, "I'm looking for some company in Randy Altschuler," who is running in the first congressional district of New York. "Randy's looking good in his race, so we are hoping to double the Jewish Republican caucus."

 

Mr. Cantor believes the American-Jewish community is overwhelmingly Democratic because Jews "are prone to want to help the underdog."

WSJ runs an Eric Cantor freudian slip.

[StrangeSox]

Glenn Beck discovers what really caused slavery.

[BigSqwert]

Glenn Beck discovers what really caused slavery.

Sure. Everyone in the GOP is racist. Bow down to Barack The Great.