The Democrat Thread

[NorthSideSox72]

This speaks volumes:

 

 

 

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About him? Probably. About this situation? It says nothing at all.

 

[GoSox05]

Tea party candidates have had a hostile relationship with the media from day one.

[BigSqwert]

About him? Probably. About this situation? It says nothing at all.

I wouldn't say "nothing". He clearly wants nothing to do with non-friendly media and in this case had his thugs arrest someone asking tough questions.

[NorthSideSox72]

Tea party candidates have had a hostile relationship with the media from day one.

Sure, most of the ones who got these nominations away from the mainline party candidates are clearly unprepared for the stage they are on.

 

But that still has nothing to do with this case.

 

[NorthSideSox72]

I wouldn't say "nothing". He clearly wants nothing to do with non-friendly media and in this case had his thugs arrest someone asking tough questions.

You were fine until the bolded. That may or may not be the case here.

 

[NorthSideSox72]

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<!--quotec-->No way to tell for sure. Seems like the kind of situation that could be a lot of things. Hopefully someone can come up with a video of it.

I meant a video of what happened to cause the detention.

 

[BigSqwert]

More from looney Joe:

 

Alaska Republican Senate nominee Joe Miller was asked about illegal immigration at his town hall yesterday, and he said that the country's first priority should be to secure the border. "If East Germany could, we could," he said.

 

Could you imagine if a Dem said that?

[Balta1701]

More from looney Joe:

At least we know he's not a fan of American Citizens fleeing to Mexico and we'll finally get some efforts to stopping that.

[lostfan]

More from looney Joe:

 

 

 

Could you imagine if a Dem said that?

lol. About 7 jokes just popped into my head at once.

[NorthSideSox72]

So, we've talked about the Tea Party candidates that are, in some cases, handing elections to Dems that might otherwise go to the GOP.

 

The Colorado Governor race is an interesting twist. After two different GOP candidates supported by the party turned out to be miserable failures (one of who won the nomination), good old Tom Tancredo is running under the Constitution Party. Tancredo is polling 35%, which is pretty amazing, the GOP guy is around 10%, and the Dem candidates (John Hickenlooper) is polling around 48% and is likely to win.

 

Here's an even funnier thing - if the GOP fails to get 10% of the vote in that election, they will become a "minor party" in Colorado's system, losing access to millions in campaign funds, among other things.

 

In this, case, I'm actually happy the Dem is benefiting, because Hickenlooper did a fantastic job as Denver's mayor, and I'd like to see him take over a higher level job.

 

Article.

 

[GoSox05]

Tom Tancredo is polling at 35%. Wow.

[Balta1701]

Well, I guess that makes sense?

UPDATE: The Angle campaign says she made that remark about being the first Asian legislator because "a reporter thought she looked Asian." OK.

[Balta1701]

Tom Tancredo is polling at 35%. Wow.

It's worth noting that there is essentially no other right leaning candidate of note in that race, as the official GOP has fully pulled its support from the Tea Party candidate in the race, Dan Maes. He's the equally crazy guy worried that bike sharing programs are an illegal U.N. imposed restriction on our freedom or something like that. Unless you're in the Tea Party, Tancredo is basically the "non-democrat" in the race.

[StrangeSox]

You know it's bad when they make Tom Tancredo the more sane option.

[Soxy]

Just watched a good chunk of yesterday's Governor's debate in New York. What a clusterf***. A hilarious clusterf***, but a clusterf*** nonetheless.

[Soxy]

Link

 

At the link Christine O'Donnell asking where in the constitution is separation of church and state while looking smug. When the audience laughs she acts like she scored a major point.

 

It has to be performance art, right? It has to be.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Link

 

At the link Christine O'Donnell asking where in the constitution is separation of church and state while looking smug. When the audience laughs she acts like she scored a major point.

 

It has to be performance art, right? It has to be.

 

OMG! I just watched the video. that... i dont know what to say. I was taught that in grade school. That couldnt possibly have been an act. She asked genuinely confused.

Edited October 19, 2010 by Athomeboy_2000

[StrangeSox]

Link

 

At the link Christine O'Donnell asking where in the constitution is separation of church and state while looking smug. When the audience laughs she acts like she scored a major point.

 

It has to be performance art, right? It has to be.

 

No. There are plenty of conservative Christians who see no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution and think the only way to violate the 1st amendment is to establish a state religion i.e. the Anglican church. They believe the country was founded by like-minded evangelicals who injected Christianity all throughout the government and that it's evil secular liberalism that has stripped it away. They would welcome theocracy (or at least quasi-theocracy) with open arms, as long as it was the right religion.

 

Hell, it wasn't that long ago that we had a President saying atheists shouldn't be considered citizens.

[CrimsonWeltall]

No. There are plenty of conservative Christians who see no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution and think the only way to violate the 1st amendment is to establish a state religion i.e. the Anglican church. They believe the country was founded by like-minded evangelicals who injected Christianity all throughout the government and that it's evil secular liberalism that has stripped it away. They would welcome theocracy (or at least quasi-theocracy) with open arms, as long as it was the right religion.

 

Hell, it wasn't that long ago that we had a President saying atheists shouldn't be considered citizens.

 

I would have expected her to cough up some argument about how the Establishment Clause is just a ban on a 'national religion' or some such nonsense, but she genuinely didn't seem to know the clause is even IN the 1st Amendment.

[StrangeSox]

I would have expected her to cough up some argument about how the Establishment Clause is just a ban on a 'national religion' or some such nonsense, but she genuinely didn't seem to know the clause is even IN the 1st Amendment.

 

There's that possibility, too. See her answer about which SCOTUS decisions she agrees with.

 

It's willful ignorance. There's no excuse for someone who is running for the Senate to be this deficient in basic knowledge. The original Tea Party people, like Ron Paul, at least they had ideas and arguments and an understanding of history, even if their proposals were a bit nutty or unworkable. This batch of candidates is an embarrassment for our country and for democracy in general.

[HuskyCaucasian]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

 

Congress shall not establish a national religion and shall not stop people from practicing their chosen religion.

[GoSox05]

This is so awful that its funny, but not.

[StrangeSox]

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At the link Christine O'Donnell asking where in the constitution is separation of church and state while looking smug. When the audience laughs she acts like she scored a major point.

 

It has to be performance art, right? It has to be.

 

OMG! I just watched the video. that... i dont know what to say. I was taught that in grade school. That couldnt possibly have been an act. She asked genuinely confused.

 

Watching that video makes me want to punch something. She doesn't understand the Constitution (establishment). She doesn't understand court decisions (ID is creationism). She doesn't understand evolution at all (JUST A THEORY!!!!). She's repeating creationist talking points from the 60's.

[NorthSideSox72]

If I was an active participant in Tea Party goings-on, I'd be f***ing pissed about the people who are chosen to represent my interests in the political arena. If what I wanted was smaller and more responsible government, I'd have to either laugh or cry at people like this O'Donnell character. Seriously, she makes Sarah Palin look like wonkish. How did this person get nominated? Did people want "change" so badly that they just blindly voted for someone they knew nothing about? Or did they knowingly choose an ignoramus?

 

[StrangeSox]

If I was an active participant in Tea Party goings-on, I'd be f***ing pissed about the people who are chosen to represent my interests in the political arena. If what I wanted was smaller and more responsible government, I'd have to either laugh or cry at people like this O'Donnell character. Seriously, she makes Sarah Palin look like wonkish. How did this person get nominated? Did people want "change" so badly that they just blindly voted for someone they knew nothing about? Or did they knowingly choose an ignoramus?

 

*obligatory smug Obama response*