The Democrat Thread

[Balta1701]

Remember when the Democrats completely bought into the Republicans' budget/deficit narrative and cut fuel subsidies for the poor and took the grey wolf off of the endangered species list? That was pretty awesome.

Just out of curiousity, do you know that the "Fuel subsidies for the poor" that were cut was the ending of a new $4 billion program that only came into existence because of the stimulus package?

[Steve9347]

I feel that the following segment has pretty much summed things up for me...

 

 

[StrangeSox]

Just out of curiousity, do you know that the "Fuel subsidies for the poor" that were cut was the ending of a new $4 billion program that only came into existence because of the stimulus package?

 

Democrats:

 

We'll enact 1 year progressive policies but perpetuate and even expand upper-class tax cuts!

[StrangeSox]

Just out of curiosity, did you know our government is a plutarchy and that Democrats are just as much a part of the problem?

[Balta1701]

Democrats:

 

We'll enact 1 year progressive policies but perpetuate and even expand upper-class tax cuts!

In other words, you really don't care about low-income energy assistance, because you'd rather not have it during an enormous recession than have it and have it go away.

[StrangeSox]

Just out of curiousity, do you know that the "Fuel subsidies for the poor" that were cut was the ending of a new $4 billion program that only came into existence because of the stimulus package?

 

Remember when the supermajority Dems and the newly elected president who had broad support passed a compromised stimulus bill that was way too Republican-friendly and included a whole lot of tax cuts instead of actual spending?

[Balta1701]

Remember when the supermajority Dems and the newly elected president who had broad support passed a compromised stimulus bill that was way too Republican-friendly and included a whole lot of tax cuts instead of actual spending?

Would we have been better had that bill not passed?

[StrangeSox]

In other words, you really don't care about low-income energy assistance, because you'd rather not have it during an enormous recession than have it and have it go away.

 

Huh, that's a pretty bizarre reading of that.

[BigSqwert]

Would we have been better had that bill not passed?

I have higher expectations than what they did. We deserve better as a nation.

[StrangeSox]

Would we have been better had that bill not passed?

 

"Do you want to eat 5 pounds of s*** or 10 pounds?"

[Balta1701]

"Do you want to eat 5 pounds of s*** or 10 pounds?"

So, "preventing a 2nd great depression" = 5 pounds of s***?

 

yeah, I'll eat that to avoid another depression.

[BigSqwert]

So, "preventing a 2nd great depression" = 5 pounds of s***?

 

yeah, I'll eat that to avoid another depression.

So you agree that cutting taxes for the rich is what prevented a 2nd Great Depression.

[StrangeSox]

So, "preventing a 2nd great depression" = 5 pounds of s***?

 

yeah, I'll eat that to avoid another depression.

 

Maintaining the plutarchy where the rich keep getting richer and the rest of us get a constant diet of s*** = 5 pounds of s***

[Balta1701]

You guys seem like the type who would benefit from this site.

 

http://tinyurl.com/2fl9gzk

 

(Profanity in the website title so I used tiny)

[BigSqwert]

You guys seem like the type who would benefit from this site.

 

http://tinyurl.com/2fl9gzk

 

(Profanity in the website title so I used tiny)

Big deal. You could probably create a similar one for GWB and make him look like a great leader.

[StrangeSox]

LOL, this is the one that came up for me:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_System...orm_Act_of_2009

 

Yep, they've really dug into the defense spending problem!

[StrangeSox]

ahahahahaha and this was the second one!

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/22/gua...rder/index.html

 

Awesome website Balta!

[Balta1701]

So you agree that cutting taxes for the rich is what prevented a 2nd Great Depression.

No, but the other $700 billion in spending did, and the upper class tax cuts in there, although small, again didn't hurt...it's pushing in the inflationary direction.

 

If you're going to argue that you'd rather have no stimulus bill you guys are out of your minds completely. Go read what was in that bill.

[NorthSideSox72]

You want to know the biggest reason why Congress has become an even bigger clusterf*** in recent years? Or why so many politicians are acting like buffoons?

 

Because people have stopped being interested in:

 

1. Researching, understanding and supporting candidates for office (or even bothering to vote)

 

2. Accepting the shades of grey that make up the country

 

3. Policy that might offend their views but is best for the country as a whole

 

4. Cutting out the noise on both extremes and focusing on the real, actual differences in political play

 

Its not the system, or the Dems, or the GOP, or the Tea Party, or the terrorists, or religion... its laziness (physical and intellectual) on the part of the voters, which shows itself in the above 4 behaviors.

 

[BigSqwert]

No, but the other $700 billion in spending did, and the upper class tax cuts in there, although small, again didn't hurt...it's pushing in the inflationary direction.

 

If you're going to argue that you'd rather have no stimulus bill you guys are out of your minds completely. Go read what was in that bill.

Any President in that situation would have done something quite similar. I don't care which party they're from.

[StrangeSox]

Big deal. You could probably create a similar one for GWB and make him look like a great leader.

 

Look at the first two I got:

 

A bill that will save millions or maybe billions over a decade on defense spending, and his order to close gitmo. I couldn't come up with better examples of his ineptitude myself.

[BigSqwert]

ahahahahaha and this was the second one!

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/01/22/gua...rder/index.html

 

Awesome website Balta!

LOL

 

"Here's_a_list_of_things_that _might_not_even_be_true_that_we_will_credit_Obama_for_accomplishing.com"

[StrangeSox]

No, but the other $700 billion in spending did, and the upper class tax cuts in there, although small, again didn't hurt...it's pushing in the inflationary direction.

 

If you're going to argue that you'd rather have no stimulus bill you guys are out of your minds completely. Go read what was in that bill.

 

No one is arguing for no stimulus bill. We are arguing that continuing to vote for bad Democrats like Obama will ensure that the heavily compromised stimulus bill is the absolute best we can ever hope for.

[Balta1701]

No one is arguing for no stimulus bill. We are arguing that continuing to vote for bad Democrats like Obama will ensure that the heavily compromised stimulus bill is the absolute best we can ever hope for.

And your choices were a moderately compromised stimulus bill or no stimulus bill.

[StrangeSox]

The third example? Obama ending Bush's use of torture!

 

Oh, wait...