The Democrat Thread

[StrangeSox]

The term "judicial activism" as it is used in American politics is a wholly empty use of words. Completely meaningless. When politicians use the phrase, it almost invariably has a different meaning: "judges doing things I don't agree with".

 

Oh I know. It's just funny to me when the people who rail against judicial activism and claim to base their judicial philosophy on textualism readily embrace making rulings fit desired outcomes. You know, like all those terrible liberal judges who ruin America do.

Edited May 25, 2011 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

Eric Cantor: Disaster relief must be offset

 

So, we can't pay for disaster relief without cutting spending somewhere else, but YOU BETTER NOT TAKE AWAY OIL SUBSIDIES!@!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[StrangeSox]

Eric Cantor: Disaster relief must be offset

 

So, we can't pay for disaster relief without cutting spending somewhere else, but YOU BETTER NOT TAKE AWAY OIL SUBSIDIES!@!!!!!

 

Instead, we pay for it by cutting it from a clean cars program. Republicans are impressively sociopathic.

 

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/wp-conte...t-Amendment.pdf

[Y2HH]

Instead, we pay for it by cutting it from a clean cars program. Republicans are impressively sociopathic.

 

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/wp-conte...t-Amendment.pdf

 

Isn't a democrat sitting in the presidents seat right now, that could veto any bill?

[Balta1701]

Isn't a democrat sitting in the presidents seat right now, that could veto any bill?

Vetoing immediately needed disaster relief dollars and delaying them by days to weeks because of a dispute over automobile purchases?

[Balta1701]

I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth.

 

John F. Kennedy, May 25, 1961

[StrangeSox]

Waste of government inefficiencies, private industry could've done it by '65.

[StrangeSox]

Part of the reason why we give Israel so much money:

 

Some people have been talking about, every place I go, they bring up the issue foreign aid. I go, you can’t get rid of all foreign aid. Why? Because you ask them and they go, ‘yea we can’t do that.’ You take away the money from Israel? No. That’s something we can’t do. Do I like foreign aid? Sometimes, but not every time. Don’t like giving money to our enemies, but I love giving money to Israel. And so there’s a picture there that people realize that, we stop helping Israel, we lose God’s hand and we’re in big time trouble.

 

This isn't new or surprising. Fundamentalists Christians love Israel because it fits with their end-times theology.

 

[Y2HH]

Vetoing immediately needed disaster relief dollars and delaying them by days to weeks because of a dispute over automobile purchases?

 

I never said he should, I simply said he could.

[StrangeSox]

I never said he should, I simply said he could.

 

Doesn't really explain or excuse Republicans' actions, though.

[Y2HH]

Doesn't really explain or excuse Republicans' actions, though.

 

That's my point, he allowed them to do it. All part of "playing the game", which is nonsense both parties partake in. The bill pretty much had to be passed to not delay the money, which is BS even creating the bill int he way it was created, and further that they let it pass because of it.

Edited May 26, 2011 by Y2HH

[StrangeSox]

Doesn't really explain or excuse the Republicans' tactics of forcing everyone to go along with their terrible policies so that they don't sabotage everything.

 

edit Obama didn't really have the option of not signing this, as Balta pointed out, because Joplin needs the money ASAP. Which, if anything, highlights the sociopathy of the Republicans exploiting a natural tragedy to cut funding for a clean energy program they don't like.

Edited May 26, 2011 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

Congress, including Democrats, are pushing hard for a quick vote to extend the PATRIOT Act for another 4 years with no modification or review by using the same scare tactics Republicans used in 2005 when the same Democrats claimed to be concerned about civil rights violations.

 

New boss, same as the old boss etc.

[BigSqwert]

New boss, same as the old boss etc.

Indeed

[southsider2k5]

Doesn't really explain or excuse the Republicans' tactics of forcing everyone to go along with their terrible policies so that they don't sabotage everything.

 

edit Obama didn't really have the option of not signing this, as Balta pointed out, because Joplin needs the money ASAP. Which, if anything, highlights the sociopathy of the Republicans exploiting a natural tragedy to cut funding for a clean energy program they don't like.

 

It they had any real fear of Obama actually having some spine, they wouldn't do it.

[StrangeSox]

Indeed

via

2005

Republicans warned that allowing the current provisions to expire could have devastating consequences and said Democrats would be punished in next year’s elections for letting it lapse.

"These senators need to understand that the Patriot Act expires in 15 days, but the terrorist threat to America will not expire on that schedule," Mr. Bush said. "The terrorists want to attack America again and kill the innocent and inflict even greater damage than they did on September 11th -- and the Congress has a responsibility not to take away this vital tool … to protect the American people."

For our colleagues to allow it to expire is to play with fire,” said Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican. “It is to take the chance that terrorists will not act in that interim, in that period where the act falls and we’re relegated to using the authorities that we had before September 11th" . . .

 

2011

"If [Rand Paul, lol I'm on the same side as Rand Paul] refuses to relent," Reid said earlier Wednesday, "that would increase the risk of a retaliatory terrorist strike against the homeland and hamper our ability to deal a truly fatal blow to al-Qaida."

If there is a lapse, a senior administration official said, the F.B.I. would be able to continue using orders it had already obtained, but it would not be able to apply for new ones if further tips and leads came in about a possible terrorist operation. The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, reacted with alarm to that prospect, saying no one could predict what the consequences of a temporary lapse might be.

 

"This is unprecedented," the official said. "We don’t believe the risk is worth it."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[StrangeSox]

It they had any real fear of Obama actually having some spine, they wouldn't do it.

 

Doesn't really explain or excuse the Republicans' tactics of forcing everyone to go along with their terrible policies so that they don't sabotage everything.

 

edit Obama didn't really have the option of not signing this, as Balta pointed out, because Joplin needs the money ASAP. Which, if anything, highlights the sociopathy of the Republicans exploiting a natural tragedy to cut funding for a clean energy program they don't like.

 

 

 

[southsider2k5]

At the end of the day, both party's do this stuff all of the time by stuffing their crap into bills that "have" to be passed. This is simply the latest in a really, really long line of the same old s***.

[StrangeSox]

btw this applies to estate tax cuts, top-bracket tax cuts holding a the rest of a tax cuts package hostage and the posturing over the debt ceiling.

[StrangeSox]

At the end of the day, both party's do this stuff all of the time by stuffing their crap into bills that "have" to be passed. This is simply the latest in a really, really long line of the same old s***.

 

Did Democrats demand that funds for Republican initiatives get stripped to fund Katrina aid?

[StrangeSox]

The NYSE is claiming that any pictures of the trading floor are their IP and you need to give them dollars to use them.

 

 

[Balta1701]

At the end of the day, both party's do this stuff all of the time by stuffing their crap into bills that "have" to be passed. This is simply the latest in a really, really long line of the same old s***.

Best example of my life was TARP

[Y2HH]

Did Democrats demand that funds for Republican initiatives get stripped to fund Katrina aid?

 

Are you saying Democrats don't do it without actually saying it? If so, are you that in denial for your party?

 

Can't you just admit both parties partake in this bulls***? Because they do.

[southsider2k5]

Are you saying Democrats don't do it without actually saying it? If so, are you that in denial for your party?

 

Can't you just admit both parties partake in this bulls***? Because they do.

 

Anything else falls under "Selective Outrage".

[StrangeSox]

This one is for BS.

 

I've been reading this guy's blog lately, he's a law professor at Cornell. He has a review of a new pro-vegan movie, though, and a follow-up today.