The Democrat Thread

[BigSqwert]

in other news, the McCain campaign released new scrolls to send out on their fleet of carrier pigeons.

[DukeNukeEm]

in other news, the McCain campaign released new scrolls to send out on their fleet of carrier pigeons.

I lol'd.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Sure ties some things together:

[CrimsonWeltall]

Because were all such fans of Plessy v. Ferguson.

 

Dred Scott comes to mind. She also spoke out about the decision earlier this year on the Exxon Valdez.

 

Yeah, she should have mentioned the Exxon one, but the Plessy and Dred Scott decisions have both been knocked out, so it would be silly to mention them.

[BigSqwert]

I rarely read Arianna's blog but this was a good one:

 

I watched the vice presidential debate in a ballroom at the Four Seasons hotel in Aviara, just north of San Diego, along with a couple of hundred women attending Fortune's Most Powerful Women Summit -- a receptive audience, you would think, for a debate featuring a woman who might become the most powerful in the land. It was an ideologically mixed crowd, including representatives of ExxonMobil, a major sponsor of the conference.

 

If the reaction of the Republican women in the room is any indication, it was not a very good night for Sarah Palin. The only noises heard during the debate were groans when Palin turned her folksiness meter up to 11 (which was often), and applause when Joe Biden delivered his best moments of the night: making personal his understanding of the plight of single parents sitting around their kitchen tables, looking for help; and his impassioned pushback on Palin's endless description of John McCain as "a maverick."

 

The loudest ovation of the night -- at least in that ballroom (granted, not the most representative-of-America crowd) -- came when Biden said that Dick Cheney was the most dangerous VP in history.

 

After watching this debate, I am convinced that if the country somehow has a collective mental meltdown and elects Sarah Palin, she will be even more dangerous than Cheney. Not only does she want more power for herself than the Constitution grants -- or than Cheney took for himself -- but she is so obviously not equipped to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, it takes your breath away that McCain picked her. He claims to be putting his country first, but the debate proved beyond any doubt that he has actually chosen to put his country on the betting line and roll the dice. And they've come up snake eyes.

 

Friday morning, Meg Whitman, the co-chair of McCain's campaign, will be on a panel with Penny Pritzker, Obama's national finance chair, discussing the campaign. After the debate, I asked Whitman what she thought of Palin's performance. "Good enough," she said.

 

But good enough for what, exactly? After Thursday night, the only thing Palin proved herself good enough for is starring in her own reality show.

 

Watching Biden and Palin on the same stage was like watching a tennis champion walk onto Centre Court at Wimbledon only to find himself facing an over-eager toddler holding a tennis racket on the other side of the net. Or as Pat Mitchell told me, "Biden was taking part in a vice presidential debate; Palin was taking part in a junior high debate."

 

Here's how Esther Dyson put it: "It's pretty clear that Biden spent decades getting ready for this debate, learning from experience; Palin spent a couple of weeks, learning from handlers and speech coaches."

 

The only subject on which Palin displayed superior knowledge was when she corrected Biden on the proper delivery of "Drill, baby, drill!" Christie Hefner thought Palin's sex-tinged twist on the chant should be appropriated for a commercial. Perhaps for Viagra.

 

Other than that, Palin's grasp fluctuated between wafer thin and skin deep. The moment that most drove me to want to send her a book on Greek gods and heroes was her head-scratching response to the question about her Achilles heel. She apparently didn't know what that meant since she spent her allotted time listing all of her attributes as opposed to her most glaring weakness.

 

Ann Wojcicki, co-founder of 23andme, told me: "I was dying to hear something -- anything! -- from Palin that wasn't pre-rehearsed."

 

Throughout the entire 90-minute debate, Palin came across as an over-wound windup doll, sporting a pasted-on-smile expression that never varied, except when she winked. Which she did repeatedly -- and pathetically. It was the folksiest appearance since Hee-Haw went off the air.

 

"The home-spun homilies have to go," Martha Stewart told me. "And, oh my god, words do have ending consonants."

 

In the greatest disconnect of the evening, Palin repeatedly went to the Reagan well, offering up such Gipper classics as "there you go again" and that "shining city on the hill." But, really, during a week in which John McCain hopped on board Bush's $700 billion bailout, did Palin not see how incongruous it was to insist that government isn't the solution, it's the problem? And declare that all we need to get this country back on track is for the government to get out of our way? Isn't that what got us where we are today? Or had she been so busy cramming for the debate she didn't have time to read one of the so-many-she-can't-name-one newspapers she reads?

 

Joe Biden's only insincere moment was when he told her: "Governor, it was a pleasure to meet you."

 

A better exit line would have been: "Governor, it's a pleasure to think that, God willing, in 33 days, you'll be back where you belong -- shootin' moose and takin' on those big oil companies in Alaska."

 

My patience with Palin is waving the white flag of surrender.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Palin Plagiarized Reagan In Debate

Her final quote "...you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free." is actually taken from a speech by Ronald Reagan that was recorded on an album entitled "Ronald Reagan Speaks Out Against Socialized Medicine" according to an article written in 2004 by Larry DeWitt, a doctoral student with numerous publications to his name, entitled Operation Coffeecup: Ronald Reagan's Effort to Prevent the Enactment of Medicare. The loss of freedom to which Reagan referred was to the enactment of Medicare.

 

Palin:

"...you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free."

 

Regan:

"...you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free."

Edited October 3, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000

[BigSqwert]

Plagiarizing is only bad if a Democrat does it.

[bmags]

That's just change you can xerox John

[HuskyCaucasian]

I retract my comments. I found the whole quote.

Not plagiarism. She credited him.

Edited October 3, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000

[lostfan]

I just think it's funny that she beat Biden over the head for bringing up recent history, but she started talking about Reagan.

[HuskyCaucasian]

[bmags]

You know, looking back at last night's debate, it wasn't a head to head matchup, it was more of a golf game. This wasn't Obama vs. McCain, this was Biden vs. Biden and Palin vs. Palin. Palin supposedly was good, but made me cringe every time her answer got past t=30 sec. Biden, on the other hand, just flat out got back what he had when he was at the convention. People don't see Biden make his gaffes at every campaign stop. They see him in these big national stages, and both times he's done very well. He has put lots of pressure on McCain to respond in these situations. You know, I think this is such an interesting race for the fact that there are 3 senators involved, so each one knows each other so well, that they have so much ammunition to counter any argument.

[Balta1701]

Link.

The McCain campaign has now shifted virtually 100 percent of his national ad spending into negative ads attacking Obama, a detailed breakdown of his ad buys reveals.

 

By contrast, the Obama campaign is devoting less than half of his spending on ads attacking McCain. More than half of its spending is going to a spot that doesn't once mention his foe.

 

I asked Evan Tracey -- who tracks national ad spending for the Campaign Media Analysis Group -- to detail the amounts each campaign is spending on specific different spots. The idea was to gauge the precise degree of the McCain campaign's shift into negative mode amid his slide in the polls, and determine whether the Obama camp was following suit.

 

The results were striking, and suggest a sharper turn into negative campaigning as time runs low.

Details of exact spending on ads at link.

[Steff]

Sure ties some things together:

 

 

I'm going to refrain from commenting on the kid not being hers.. the story she tells is more interesting to comment on.

 

Woah, woah, woah..... her water broke THEN she got on an airplane...??? Something that OBGYN's DO NOT ALLOW during a normal pregnancy after 32 weeks. Could it have happened, not by any sane woman I know. And I'm sure any OBGYN in this country would have advised a pre-term special needs child to be IMMEDIATELY monitored at the nearest hospital. Obviously she's incredibly lucky as well as incredibly stupid.

 

And I also want to say that I think it's very odd that every time she gets that kid in her arms she almost immediately passes him off to either Bristol or the youngest child - who almost dropped him twice last night.

[HuskyCaucasian]

Palin: To Hell With Women Who Dont Support Me

 

At a rally today in California, Gov. Sarah Palin offered up a rather jarring argument for supporting the Republican ticket. "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women," the Alaska Governor said, claiming she was quoting former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

 

The statement came after Palin had recounted a "providential" moment she experienced on Saturday: "I'm reading on my Starbucks mocha cup, ok? The quote of the day... It was Madeleine Albright, former Secretary of State [crowd boos] and UN ambassador. ... Now she said it, I didn't. She said, 'There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women.'"

 

Actually, Albright didn't say that. The real quote is, "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't help other women." (Sources made the same point to CBS's Scott Conroy.)

 

Palin seemed to realize that the line could be viewed as grating. As the audience cheered, she remarked: "Okay, now, thank you so much for receiving that well. I didn't know how that was gonna go over. And now, California, let's see what a comment like I just made, how that is turned into whatever it'll be turned into tomorrow with the newspaper."

 

Sorry Steff, I guess you are headed to hell. but dont worry, I have a friend who says he'll be driving the bus to hell, so I"ll put in a good word.

Edited October 5, 2008 by Athomeboy_2000

[HuskyCaucasian]

Now remember: John McCain Said his campaign would NEVER attack Obama patriotism

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200...05/1495110.aspx

“Turns out one of his earliest supporters is a man, who according to the New York Times, was a domestic terrorist,” Palin told about 10,000 supporters at a rally at the Home Depot Center. She was referring to William Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s, which sought to bomb the Pentagon and US Capitol.

 

“No, this is not a man who sees America as you and I see America,” she said of Obama. “We see Americas as a force for good in this world. We see an America of exceptionalism.

 

“Our opponent is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who target their own country."

[BigSqwert]

Now remember: John McCain Said his campaign would NEVER attack Obama patriotism

 

Americans don't care what McCain offers to help them in these dire times. All they care about is that McCain is not Muslim and wears flag pins. He knows people don't care about actual issues as demonstrated by his current ad campaign (100% negative).

[HuskyCaucasian]

John McCain's brother Joe: Northern VA is "Communist Country"

Republican presidential candidate John McCain's brother made an apparent joke at a campaign rally this weekend that might not play well in parts of newly competitive Virginia.

 

Joe McCain, speaking at an event in support of his brother, called two Democratic-leaning areas in Northern Virginia "communist country," according to a report on The Washington Post's Web site.

 

"I've lived here for at least 10 years and before that about every third duty I was in either Arlington or Alexandria, up in communist country," Joe McCain said at an event in Loudon County, Va.

 

Joe McCain then apologized, but the remark drew laughter at the event, according to the report.

[BigSqwert]

John McCain's brother Joe: Northern VA is "Communist Country"

 

Ah yes. The party of inclusiveness. You don't agree with us you're a communist. I could have sworn their new message was to reach across aisles. They must have meant their own aisles.

[bmags]

This rollingstone McCain piece is...reaaaally, Well...if you have the time.

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/233..._maverick/print

[Balta1701]

Sometimes, even the crazy left bloggers get it right.

p.s. The Cubs suck. I don't know what I did in my past life to deserve the torture of being a Cubs fan -- kos

[BigSqwert]

This rollingstone McCain piece is...reaaaally, Well...if you have the time.

 

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/233..._maverick/print

Good stuff. Thanks for the link.

[HuskyCaucasian]

The first half of this ad isnt the greatest but they need to take the McCain quote at the end and run it all over the place:

[HuskyCaucasian]

they need to take the McCain quote at the end and run it all over the place:

 

Here's the Quote:

[Balta1701]

Governor Sarah Palin, yesterday.

Palin regaled the cheering crowd with a story about how she was reading her Starbucks mocha cup yesterday, which featured a quotation from former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

 

"Now she said it, I didn't," Palin said of Albright. "She said, 'There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women.'"

Governor Sarah Palin, a few months back, on going to Hell.

Once onstage, together with Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano, Palin talked about what women expect from women leaders; how she took charge in Alaska during a political scandal that threatened to unseat the state's entire Republican power structure, and her feelings about Sen. Hillary Clinton. (She said she felt kind of bad she couldn't support a woman, but she didn't like Clinton's whining.)