The Democrat Thread

[Reddy]

Barney Frank announced that he will not rerun in 2012

 

http://news.yahoo.com/democratic-rep-barne...-190526163.html

sucks

[NorthSideSox72]

sucks

Yes he does, and I'm glad he is leaving. The guy was just terrible, and liberals could find much better people to stand for their values.

 

[VictoryMC98]

Yes he does, and I'm glad he is leaving. The guy was just terrible, and liberals could find much better people to stand for their values.

 

How and Why was he bad?

[Reddy]

Yes he does, and I'm glad he is leaving. The guy was just terrible, and liberals could find much better people to stand for their values.

haha he was one of the few people to actually speak his mind and stick to his guns. We could use a helluva lot more of that in congress.

[Rex Kickass]

How and Why was he bad?

 

I have a very specific reason why I'm not a fan of Mr. Frank. But there are others to be upset about.

 

He has as big of a hand in our little banking issues of 2008 as any other member of Congress and the D after his name should not excuse him from that.

 

And also, he ran a brothel out of his brother's apartment while in Congress - and although he got caught, didn't get his ass bounced from Congress like he should have.

[Rex Kickass]

I guess these laws are only good to have enacted when poor people get caught.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-23/a...-executive.html

 

On Nov. 16, a European businessman paying a visit to his company’s manufacturing plant near Tuscaloosa, Alabama, was pulled over for driving a rental car without a tag.

 

The police officer asked the man for his license, but the only paperwork he had with him was a German I.D. card. Anywhere else in the nation, the cop might have issued the man a citation. Not in Alabama, where a strict new law requires police to look into the immigration status of people detained for routine traffic violations. Because the man couldn’t prove he had the right to be in the U.S., he was arrested and hauled off to the police station.

 

The businessman turned out to be an executive with Mercedes-Benz, one of Alabama’s prized manufacturers, Bloomberg Businessweek reports in its Nov. 28 issue. The Mercedes plant employs 3,400 people, and the company’s much-heralded decision in 1993 to build cars in the state encouraged Hyundai, Honda, and Toyota to follow.

[farmteam]

I guess these laws are only good to have enacted when poor people get caught.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-23/a...-executive.html

 

Well, on the flip side, perhaps it's slightly encouraging that the police still arrested a (presumably) well-dressed White man, despite the perceived racial undertones associated with the law.

[Balta1701]

I'm a fan of how Missoura is already using this incident in ads to try to steal jobs and business from Alabama.

[southsider2k5]

sucks

 

 

Yes he does, and I'm glad he is leaving. The guy was just terrible, and liberals could find much better people to stand for their values.

 

Unintentional, but still funny.

[southsider2k5]

I have a very specific reason why I'm not a fan of Mr. Frank. But there are others to be upset about.

 

He has as big of a hand in our little banking issues of 2008 as any other member of Congress and the D after his name should not excuse him from that.

 

And also, he ran a brothel out of his brother's apartment while in Congress - and although he got caught, didn't get his ass bounced from Congress like he should have.

 

That story never gets old by the way.

[farmteam]

That story never gets old by the way.

 

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[VictoryMC98]

I have a very specific reason why I'm not a fan of Mr. Frank. But there are others to be upset about.

 

He has as big of a hand in our little banking issues of 2008 as any other member of Congress and the D after his name should not excuse him from that.

 

And also, he ran a brothel out of his brother's apartment while in Congress - and although he got caught, didn't get his ass bounced from Congress like he should have.

 

Say what? Explain your idea of how he had something to do with 2008.

 

He was a job creator, in this time of economic crisis we need them!

Edited November 30, 2011 by VictoryMC98

[Rex Kickass]

?

 

Let's just say I staffed him for a day. And he was really s***ty.

[VictoryMC98]

Let's just say I staffed him for a day. And he was really s***ty.

 

Legit not being an ass question...

 

Have you staffed for any other member of Congress?

[southsider2k5]

Let's just say I staffed him for a day. And he was really s***ty.

 

[farmteam]

Let's just say I staffed him for a day. And he was really s***ty.

 

Sweet Jesus please let my mind's improbable conclusions from this be correct.

[Cknolls]

Say what? Explain your idea of how he had something to do with 2008.

 

He was a job creator, in this time of economic crisis we need them!

 

 

Did Frank run a business? I was not aware. And if so, how many people did he employ?

[Rex Kickass]

Legit not being an ass question...

 

Have you staffed for any other member of Congress?

 

I have been a professional Democrat for a few years. I worked on campaigns mostly, so I staffed on campaign stops. This means I've worked security on an Obama event, a Hillary Clinton event. Congressman Frank is the only elected official that I fully staffed for a day.

[StrangeSox]

So Obama's threatened to veto a pretty terrible bill that allows for indefinite military detention of anyone anywhere in the world, including US citizens in the US. Hopefully he follows through.

[StrangeSox]

Why I hate Frank Luntz:

 

1. Don't say "capitalism" - Use "economic freedom" or "free market"

2. Don't say government "taxes the rich" - Say government "takes from the rich"

3. Forget "middle class" - Use "hardworking taxpayers"

4. Don't talk "jobs" - talk "careers"

5. Don't say "government spending" - Say "waste"

6. Don't say "compromise" - Say "cooperate"

7. Say "I get it"

8. Don't say "entrepreneur" - Say "job creator"

9. Don't ask people to "sacrifice" - Say "we're in this together"

10. Always blame Washington - Say "instead of occupying Wall Street you should be occupying Washington"

 

Bonus item! Don't say "bonus" - Say "pay for performance"

 

 

[StrangeSox]

gingrich does a soft back-pedal on his "child labor laws are stupid" comment, still comes out terrible though:

 

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/0...n-the-bathroom/

 

Conceding ever so slightly to flak he’s taken for calling child labor laws “stupid” and suggesting that schools fire janitors and replace with them poor kids, GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich got more specific today, saying working-class students should be limited to jobs like cleaning bathrooms. Bowing to concerns that janitorial work is dangerous, Gingrich floated, “What if they became assistant janitors and their jobs were to mop the floor and clean the bathroom?”

 

Incredibly, Gingrich compared making kids work as janitors to a successful program that paid kids to read books. Of course, reading books is not hard labor and is directly relevant to education — cleaning bathrooms is not.

 

Gingrich said his idea would be beneficial because the kids “have no habit of work.” Certainly, cleaning up the soiled bathrooms of their classmates will break these children of their bad habits.

[Balta1701]

How did y'all not post this one? I checked the logical threads, did I miss it somewhere?

m a very rich person. As an entrepreneur and venture capitalist, I’ve started or helped get off the ground dozens of companies in industries including manufacturing, retail, medical services, the Internet and software. I founded the Internet media company aQuantive Inc., which was acquired by Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) in 2007 for $6.4 billion. I was also the first non-family investor in Amazon.com Inc. (AMZN)

 

Even so, I’ve never been a “job creator.” I can start a business based on a great idea, and initially hire dozens or hundreds of people. But if no one can afford to buy what I have to sell, my business will soon fail and all those jobs will evaporate.

 

That’s why I can say with confidence that rich people don’t create jobs, nor do businesses, large or small. What does lead to more employment is the feedback loop between customers and businesses. And only consumers can set in motion a virtuous cycle that allows companies to survive and thrive and business owners to hire. An ordinary middle-class consumer is far more of a job creator than I ever have been or ever will be.

Theory of Evolution

 

When businesspeople take credit for creating jobs, it is like squirrels taking credit for creating evolution. In fact, it’s the other way around.

 

It is unquestionably true that without entrepreneurs and investors, you can’t have a dynamic and growing capitalist economy. But it’s equally true that without consumers, you can’t have entrepreneurs and investors. And the more we have happy customers with lots of disposable income, the better our businesses will do.

 

That’s why our current policies are so upside down. When the American middle class defends a tax system in which the lion’s share of benefits accrues to the richest, all in the name of job creation, all that happens is that the rich get richer.

 

And that’s what has been happening in the U.S. for the last 30 years.

 

Since 1980, the share of the nation’s income for fat cats like me in the top 0.1 percent has increased a shocking 400 percent, while the share for the bottom 50 percent of Americans has declined 33 percent. At the same time, effective tax rates on the superwealthy fell to 16.6 percent in 2007, from 42 percent at the peak of U.S. productivity in the early 1960s, and about 30 percent during the expansion of the 1990s. In my case, that means that this year, I paid an 11 percent rate on an eight-figure income.

 

One reason this policy is so wrong-headed is that there can never be enough superrich Americans to power a great economy. The annual earnings of people like me are hundreds, if not thousands, of times greater than those of the average American, but we don’t buy hundreds or thousands of times more stuff. My family owns three cars, not 3,000. I buy a few pairs of pants and a few shirts a year, just like most American men. Like everyone else, I go out to eat with friends and family only occasionally.

 

It’s true that we do spend a lot more than the average family. Yet the one truly expensive line item in our budget is our airplane (which, by the way, was manufactured in France by Dassault Aviation SA (AM)), and those annual costs are mostly for fuel (from the Middle East). It’s just crazy to believe that any of this is more beneficial to our economy than hiring more teachers or police officers or investing in our infrastructure.

More Shoppers Needed

 

I can’t buy enough of anything to make up for the fact that millions of unemployed and underemployed Americans can’t buy any new clothes or enjoy any meals out. Or to make up for the decreasing consumption of the tens of millions of middle-class families that are barely squeaking by, buried by spiraling costs and trapped by stagnant or declining wages.

 

If the average American family still got the same share of income they earned in 1980, they would have an astounding $13,000 more in their pockets a year. It’s worth pausing to consider what our economy would be like today if middle-class consumers had that additional income to spend.

 

It is mathematically impossible to invest enough in our economy and our country to sustain the middle class (our customers) without taxing the top 1 percent at reasonable levels again. Shifting the burden from the 99 percent to the 1 percent is the surest and best way to get our consumer-based economy rolling again.

[StrangeSox]

I kept meaning to but kept forgetting.

[StrangeSox]

A Farewell from Herman Cain

My Final Thoughts

 

Dear Friend,

 

And when I say “friend,” I mean it in the normal way, not “someone I’ve been sleeping with for 13 years.” Unless, of course, I have been sleeping with you for 13 years. In that case, I do mean it that way.

 

It is with a heavy heart that I have decided to end my inspirational quest for the White House. After much reassessing and reconsidering, I have decided to spend more time being screamed at by my wife. And by “more time,” I mean 24 hours a day, stopping only for bathroom breaks.

 

But before I go, let me share with you my final thoughts on my campaign. After months of crisscrossing this great land of ours and participating in over three hundred televised debates, I am being disqualified because of an extramarital affair. And that raises the following question: are you f***ing kidding me?

 

I mean, let’s get real. I never heard of Libya. I didn’t know whether that CNN dude’s name was Wolf or Blitz. And my only training for running the #1 nation in the world was running its #8 pizza chain. Yet none of that, I repeat, none of that disqualified me. In fact, I was the front-f***ing-runner, as long as I kept my 9-9-9 in my pants. (I have no idea what I meant by that -- I just like saying 9-9-9.)

 

But here’s the part that really kills me. You’re kicking me to the curb because I was messing around, and instead you’re going with… Newt Gingrich? I repeat: are you f***ing kidding me? Oh, I know what you’re saying: you love Newt because he’s an “intellectual.” Well, Newt Gingrich is the intellectual of the Republican field the way Moe was the intellectual of the Stooges.

 

And that leads me to my final point: you disgust me, America. Right now if I had my way, I’d up and move to another country. I really, truly would. Only I don’t know where any of them are, and my wife won’t let me leave the house.

 

Goodbye forever,

 

Herman

[Rex Kickass]

No Cain announcement yet, but Mrs. Cain is coming on stage with him AND they're asking for volunteers! Looks like the crazy is staying in!