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My wife watches it but she is pretty new to politics. I'm basically forced to watch Morning Joe when I get up and AC 360 and Larry King and/or Olbermann and Maddow at night (if I'm in my room). Sometimes I can convince her to put on the Daily Show or the Colbert Report though.

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So, thankfully, the government has no interest in any non-terror-related phone calls and can be completely trusted with that information. It's not like they'd pass ones they thought were funny around the office or anything totally inappropriate like that, right?

Despite pledges by President George W. Bush and American intelligence officials to the contrary, hundreds of US citizens overseas have been eavesdropped on as they called friends and family back home, according to two former military intercept operators who worked at the giant National Security Agency (NSA) center in Fort Gordon, Georgia.

 

"These were just really everyday, average, ordinary Americans who happened to be in the Middle East, in our area of intercept and happened to be making these phone calls on satellite phones," said Adrienne Kinne, a 31-year old US Army Reserves Arab linguist assigned to a special military program at the NSA's Back Hall at Fort Gordon from November 2001 to 2003.

 

Kinne described the contents of the calls as "personal, private things with Americans who are not in any way, shape or form associated with anything to do with terrorism."

 

She said US military officers, American journalists and American aid workers were routinely intercepted and "collected on" as they called their offices or homes in the United States.

 

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Faulk says he and others in his section of the NSA facility at Fort Gordon routinely shared salacious or tantalizing phone calls that had been intercepted, alerting office mates to certain time codes of "cuts" that were available on each operator's computer.

 

"Hey, check this out," Faulk says he would be told, "there's good phone sex or there's some pillow talk, pull up this call, it's really funny, go check it out. It would be some colonel making pillow talk and we would say, 'Wow, this was crazy'," Faulk told ABC News.

 

Faulk said he joined in to listen, and talk about it during breaks in Back Hall's "smoke pit," but ended up feeling badly about his actions.

 

"I feel that it was something that the people should not have done. Including me," he said.

 

In testimony before Congress, then-NSA director Gen. Michael Hayden, now director of the CIA, said private conversations of Americans are not intercepted.

D'OH.

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Alaskan Independence Party: The Last Refuge of a Scoundrel

 

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Posted October 9, 2008 | 11:28 AM (EST)

 

 

In 2004, America's malleable mainstream media allowed itself to be manipulated by artful Republican operatives into devoting weeks of broadcast attention and drums of ink to unfairly desecrating John Kerry's genuine Vietnam heroics while obligingly muzzling serious discussion of George W. Bush's shameful wartime record of evasion and cowardice.

 

Last week found the American media once again boarding Republican swift boats against this season's Democratic candidate armed with unfair and hypocritical attacks artfully designed by GOP strategists to distract attention from the cataclysmic outcomes of Republican governance. Vice Presidential hopeful Sarah Palin has taken to faulting Senator Barack Obama for his casual acquaintance with a respected Illinois educator Bill Ayers, who forty years ago was a member of the Weathermen, a movement active when Obama was eight and which he has denounced as "detestable." Palin argues that the relationship proves that Obama sees "America as being so imperfect that he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

 

The Times dedicated a page one article to Obama's relations with Ayers and CNN's Anderson Cooper obliged Palin by rewarding her reckless accusations about Obama's patriotism with a major investigative report. Fox, meanwhile, is still riveting its audience with wall to wall coverage of this pressing irrelevancy.

 

But if McCarthy-era guilt-by-association is once again a valid political consideration, Palin, it would seem, has more to lose than Obama. Palin, it could be argued, following her own logic, thinks so little of America's perfection that she continues to "pal around" with a man--her husband, actually--who only recently terminated his seven-year membership in the Alaskan Independence Party. Putting plunder above patriotism, the members of this treasonous cabal aim to break our country into pieces and walk away with Alaska's rich federal oil fields and one-fifth of America's land base--an area three-fourths the size of the Civil War Confederacy.

 

AIP's charter commits the party "to the ultimate independence of Alaska," from the United States which it refers to as "the colonial bureaucracy in Washington." It proclaims Alaska's 1959 induction as a state "as illegal and in violation of the United Nations charter and international law."

 

AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American," reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP's current website, "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." According to Vogler AIP's central purpose was to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, "should be an independent nation."

 

Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.

 

Palin's husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002. Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a "fellow traveler." While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska. The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP's 2000 Convention. She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP's 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention. In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!

 

So when Palin accuses Barack of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

 

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 04:14 PM)
So, thankfully, the government has no interest in any non-terror-related phone calls and can be completely trusted with that information. It's not like they'd pass ones they thought were funny around the office or anything totally inappropriate like that, right?

 

D'OH.

They shouldn't be over there in the first place. Right?

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QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 10:30 AM)
I watch project runway. I also drink coffee. I suppose I am an elitist.

How bulls*** was last night? I'm still mad.

 

Oh, and I drink tea. I think we all can admit I'm the elitist queen around here. . .

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QUOTE (Soxy @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 05:48 PM)
How bulls*** was last night? I'm still mad.

 

Oh, and I drink tea. I think we all can admit I'm the elitist queen around here. . .

 

What kind of tea? We'll see who the true hot beverage elitist is!

 

Also, Yeah I've been kind of bored and pissed at the whole season. I realize they are picking these people based off of more than talent, and some of the people they picked I felt were purposeful rehashes of past characters. Leatherlady sucks and should've been kicked off right away.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 12:51 PM)
What kind of tea? We'll see who the true hot beverage elitist is!

 

Also, Yeah I've been kind of bored and pissed at the whole season. I realize they are picking these people based off of more than talent, and some of the people they picked I felt were purposeful rehashes of past characters. Leatherlady sucks and should've been kicked off right away.

Yeah, this season has been disappointing--there are some major issues with construction that people shouldn't be making at that level. And Kenley rips off other designers so much it's sick. Ugh.

 

Right now I am sipping some organic Himalayan tea I got as a gift from some tea gardens out in CA. Usually I go for Stash English breakfast tea or Green/White infusion. No sugar and a splash of non-fat milk.

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QUOTE (Soxy @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 12:48 PM)
How bulls*** was last night? I'm still mad.

Don't get me started. The wife and I had a bet (if either of us won, the other had to buy an entire outfit for us) we made on the first episode of the show (had to decide within the first half hour), who would win. I picked Jerrell at the offset, and I can't believe that he went home instead of Korto.

 

I still can't believe Kenley was there in the first place, but whatever...

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Anyone else feel "Holla atcha boy" was such a gimmicky ploy to be "fierce" or the catch phrase of the season, too? Damn that pissed me off. Dude was such a Christian wannabe, at least he didn't last that long.

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QUOTE (Soxy @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 05:55 PM)
Right now I am sipping some organic Himalayan tea I got as a gift from some tea gardens out in CA. Usually I go for Stash English breakfast tea or Green/White infusion. No sugar and a splash of non-fat milk.

 

You win, Soxy. I'm just an earl gray man with the same splash of skim.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 01:37 PM)
Anyone else feel "Holla atcha boy" was such a gimmicky ploy to be "fierce" or the catch phrase of the season, too? Damn that pissed me off. Dude was such a Christian wannabe, at least he didn't last that long.

Yeah his "....licious" crap was annoying.

 

I laughed when he went home. Same with Mr. 3rd person Suede.

 

Alright, enough of this in "The Democrat Thread", the Republicans who lurk will freak out.

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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 9, 2008 -> 07:49 PM)
Yeah his "....licious" crap was annoying.

 

I laughed when he went home. Same with Mr. 3rd person Suede.

 

Alright, enough of this in "The Democrat Thread", the Republicans who lurk will freak out.

 

LOL!

 

THIS IS A SNEAK PEEK INTO AN OBAMA PRESIDENCY, REPUBLICANS!!! FASHION SHOWS AND ENGLISH TEA!

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