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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 2, 2012 -> 10:28 AM)
Whoops. Guess I should have read the posts above mine before posting that link.

Oh, hey, I'll also add one more...the guy was a creep and I'm totally glad he's gone for other reasons (Cowleyesque twitter work, poor performance at the UN), but those issues tend to make others into ideal people to work on Republican campaigns these days.

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This cartoon depicts the huge number of unemployed people weighing down the welfare state and thus holding back the economy. The tragedy of this waste of human potential is heightened by the observation that even a high level of education isn't saving people any more. Implicit in the metaphor is the obvious solution that if everyone got out and pushed, the economy could move forward. Clearly, then, the welfare state should incorporate public employment. A good cartoon.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 19, 2011 -> 06:00 PM)
The 4th Amendment took a beating on Monday with the SCOTUS' 8-1 ruling in Kentucky v King.

 

the opinion

 

 

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 20, 2011 -> 08:54 AM)
That's a ridiculous exaggeration and you know it. That is not what this decision said, at all.

 

 

The Kentucky SC issued their opinion on remand in this case, finding that the facts in the case did not create an exigent circumstance. Mea cupla on my part, and I'm glad they ruled this way. Some commentary here.

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After deciding this year would be his last in the Missouri General Assembly, Zach Wyatt says he wanted to do something truly meaningful. He just didn’t know what.

 

But when news broke last month about a bill pushed by his fellow Republicans that would restrict discussion of sexual orientation in public schools — dubbed the "don't say gay" bill — Wyatt finally knew what he had to do.

 

On Wednesday, he publicly announced for the first time that he is gay. According to the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund, a national group that works to elect gay, bisexual and transgendered people to public office, Wyatt is now the only openly gay Republican currently serving in a state legislature in the United States.

 

“I will not lie to myself anymore about my own sexuality,” said Wyatt, a first-term state representative, at a news conference in the Capitol. “Today I ask you to stand with me as a proud Republican, a proud veteran and a proud gay man who wants to protect all kids.”

 

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/03/35906...l#storylink=cpy

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QUOTE (farmteam @ May 1, 2012 -> 07:51 PM)
Oh, I agree that it's terrible he felt he had to resign and that such pressure even existed in the first place. I guess it just slightly refocuses the attack from Romney's campaign specifically to a significant portion of the GOP in general.

here's the next day's story on this "firing", where even though the Romney campaign may have asked him to stay on, they were already sidelining him and removing him from campaign events he was supposed to be involved in.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:14 AM)
This is one of the two major parties in our country. WTF is wrong with us.

 

Nothing...that's exactly how the rich wanted it, so it's exactly what we have.

 

They're all connected, rich, and that's regardless of their "fake party affiliation".

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:34 AM)
Nothing...that's exactly how the rich wanted it, so it's exactly what we have.

 

They're all connected, rich, and that's regardless of their "fake party affiliation".

 

There's plenty of legitimate gay-hate in this country. This isn't political theater but their honest convictions.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:36 AM)
There's plenty of legitimate gay-hate in this country. This isn't political theater but their honest convictions.

 

I'm not denying this...but I am saying we got the exact government we asked for...which is a 2 party no choice government.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:41 AM)
I'm not denying this...but I am saying we got the exact government we asked for...which is a 2 party no choice government.

 

Other countries have two-party systems where one party isn't completely insane like the GOP.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:47 AM)
Other countries have two-party systems where one party isn't completely insane like the GOP.

 

When people make completely generalized statements like this, it tends to tell me they need to be ignored. The "entire GOP" isn't "insane". Is there a fringe section of it that is? Sure. But the same can be said of the Democratic party, too. However, saying all of them are "insane" is the only thing that's "insane".

 

Oh, and I realize that in your opinion the entire Democratic party is "sane" and they're "right about everything", too...which is also insane. :P

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:54 AM)
When people make completely generalized statements like this, it tends to tell me they need to be ignored. The "entire GOP" isn't "insane". Is there a fringe section of it that is? Sure. But the same can be said of the Democratic party, too. However, saying all of them are "insane" is the only thing that's "insane".

 

Oh, and I realize that in your opinion the entire Democratic party is "sane" and they're "right about everything", too...which is also insane. :P

 

Nah I openly criticize the Democrats at the national level and won't be voting for Obama.

 

But the modern GOP is insane. The "fringe section" is a majority--just look at all the nutty ideas that candidates proposed during the primaries. Or, look at all of the anti-abortion bills state GOP legislatures are passing. Or look at an adviser being shoved out or a soldier being booed simply for being gay.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 3, 2012 -> 10:59 AM)
Nah I openly criticize the Democrats at the national level and won't be voting for Obama.

 

But the modern GOP is insane. The "fringe section" is a majority--just look at all the nutty ideas that candidates proposed during the primaries. Or, look at all of the anti-abortion bills state GOP legislatures are passing. Or look at an adviser being shoved out or a soldier being booed simply for being gay.

 

And that's why none of them won the primary. :P But regardless, they're still not "ALL insane". I understand you don't agree with them...so don't vote for them. But they're not insane because they do things differently than you. I disagree with people like Pelosi...but is she "insane"? No. :P

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 3, 2012 -> 11:00 AM)
And that's why none of them won the primary. :P

 

Romney proposed plenty of terrible, retrograde ideas. His immigration policies were arguably the harshest. As far as that issue goes, though, the GOP isn't really any worse than a lot of European right-wing parties. Hell, the National Front candidate in France got 20% of the vote.

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When I said "completely insane," I was not saying "every single self-identifying Republican is insane." Completely was a modifier on insane, indicating that they've "gone off the deep end."

 

I disagree with plenty of people I do not find insane. However, many of the GOP's policies are not sane, rational policies. Case-in-point, the general GOP hatred of gays.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 3, 2012 -> 11:06 AM)
When I said "completely insane," I was not saying "every single self-identifying Republican is insane." Completely was a modifier on insane, indicating that they've "gone off the deep end."

 

I disagree with plenty of people I do not find insane. However, many of the GOP's policies are not sane, rational policies. Case-in-point, the general GOP hatred of gays.

 

 

QUOTE (Y2HH @ May 4, 2012 -> 11:28 AM)
Yea, you can say that again. Just...dumb. And I'm not talking about the segment...which was funny.

 

 

 

as I was saying....

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 4, 2012 -> 11:35 AM)
as I was saying....

 

Many can be insane on both ends, as I was saying...

 

It's just damning on the people that a person like that can somehow get elected.

 

I've long said I could never win an election because I'm too sane...and have views that reside on both sides of the fence, so I'd be accepted by neither side to represent me...

 

...so in that regard, maybe your right...the only problem is you need to stop saying the GOP is insane, because they're all insane.

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