greg775 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:59 AM) You are inconsistent in your statements. You say you don't care what others believe, but the very next thing you post laments that too few people believe in God (i.e., you care what others think). It's not true, btw. A distressing recent Gallup poll noted that 45% of Americans have a basically creationist belief system, while another 35% believe in a God-directed evolutionary scheme (talk about a contradiction), and only 15% of Americans accept a secular view of organic evolution. Basically, the Goddies far outnumber the nonbelievers in America, no matter how loudly the poor persecuted believers insist otherwise. I meant to say I don't care what he believes because I have no right to determine what he believes. As far as an entire society, sure I wish they all believed in God. But I didn't want to act as if I wanted him to follow my beliefs. He has the right to believe what he wants. So do 80 percent believe in God? I don't understand your figures. Edited September 7, 2012 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 12:42 AM) I meant to say I don't care what he believes because I have no right to determine what he believes. As far as an entire society, sure I wish they all believed in God. But I didn't want to act as if I wanted him to follow my beliefs. He has the right to believe what he wants. So do 80 percent believe in God? I don't understand your figures. Yes, in the Gallup poll, 80% of respondents identified themselves as persons buying either a creationist view or at least a God-directed view of explaining life on earth. I honestly greatly value the freedom we ostensibly have in this country to espouse any spiritual belief (or lack thereof) we care to espouse. The only time I get irritated is when any particular denomination decides they have the whole spirituality thing figured out and think their belief system trumps everyone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I think a "good" Christian would hope that everyone believed in God and more specifically in the Christian way of life. As an American, they ought to hope that but not enforce it in any way. I think no one should abort a child, but I realize that I have no way of proving in a legal way that it is wrong. Therefore, laws banning abortion disgust me because I know it is an inappropriate restriction. Nonetheless, in my own private situations I'd avoid abortion if at all possible. Same thing. Your private hopes and desires don't have to become policy. You can be a Christian that loves heterosexual marriage and dislikes the idea of gay marriage...but IMO you have no grounds for legislating against gay marriage. You can simply not like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEANS Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 so Greg, if everyone believed in God what would really change about our society? You come off sounding like people are below you if they don't believe in your God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 06:29 PM) God is a petulant child, apparently. He compromises like Barack. Take my side, or I will throw a temper and punish you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 07:55 AM) He compromises like Barack. Take my side, or I will throw a temper and punish you. At least God doesn't play games with our credit rating, eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 6, 2012 -> 11:42 PM) I meant to say I don't care what he believes because I have no right to determine what he believes. As far as an entire society, sure I wish they all believed in God. But I didn't want to act as if I wanted him to follow my beliefs. He has the right to believe what he wants. So do 80 percent believe in God? I don't understand your figures. You also question why I don't believe. I believe in science and fact, none of which supports religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (MEANS @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 12:35 PM) so Greg, if everyone believed in God what would really change about our society? You come off sounding like people are below you if they don't believe in your God. I don't mean to say they are below me. I think if people believed in God they would not be as selfish as they are and they would make better decisions for the betterment of all. I definitely think it'd be a kinder, gentler America. QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:36 PM) You also question why I don't believe. I believe in science and fact, none of which supports religion. There still could be somebody in charge of it all no matter what theory you have on creation IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 01:49 PM) I don't mean to say they are below me. I think if people believed in God they would not be as selfish as they are and they would make better decisions for the betterment of all. I definitely think it'd be a kinder, gentler America. There still could be somebody in charge of it all no matter what theory you have on creation IMO. Some of the most selfish people in the world believe in God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 01:49 PM) I don't mean to say they are below me. I think if people believed in God they would not be as selfish as they are and they would make better decisions for the betterment of all. I definitely think it'd be a kinder, gentler America. What is interesting is that I think people would be less selfish and make better decisions if there was no god. Too many people think that they can do whatever they want "in the name of god" or they dont worry about worldly consequences because "I am going to heaven anyways." Two different opinions on the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 bahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 03:11 PM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I dont know where else to put this but the ad that was showing up was about Michelle Bachman. At first glance it appeared to say "Go on a date with Michelle Bachman" and I thought that was the oddest online dating ad ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 This is fairly entertaining, NSFW, and hopefully not blocked by the swear filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 05:14 PM) This is fairly entertaining, NSFW, and hopefully not blocked by the swear filter. I was going to post this. Chris Kluwe is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 05:33 PM) I was going to post this. Chris Kluwe is hilarious. Yeah, that's absolutely hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 (edited) It was worth the 5hr wait in line yesterday, and now my wife and I have tickets in hand to see President Obama tomorrow during his campaign stop here in my adopted FL town at my grad school alma mater. Very exciting! Edited September 8, 2012 by FlaSoxxJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 06:35 PM) O RLY? QUOTE (Jake @ Sep 7, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Seriously? holy s***, I meant to upload that to Facebook, not Soxtalk. No idea why the f*** I did that on Soxtalk for. BAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 07:41 PM) Seriously? holy s***, I meant to upload that to Facebook, not Soxtalk. No idea why the f*** I did that on Soxtalk for. BAHAHAHA haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 8, 2012 -> 07:41 PM) Seriously? holy s***, I meant to upload that to Facebook, not Soxtalk. No idea why the f*** I did that on Soxtalk for. BAHAHAHA You are a FB addict. There is something wrong with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Are people who respond to polls just giant trolls? They have to be, right? Right? When asked, between Obama and Romney, who was more responsible for bin Ladens death, Republicans answered 38% Obama 15% Romney 47% Not Sure http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/201...ase_OH_9912.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Sep 10, 2012 -> 04:05 PM) Are people who respond to polls just giant trolls? They have to be, right? Right? When asked, between Obama and Romney, who was more responsible for bin Ladens death, Republicans answered 38% Obama 15% Romney 47% Not Sure http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/201...ase_OH_9912.pdf I can totally buy plenty of people picking "Not Sure" since they may think neither had much impact compared to the DoD, JSOC, the actual servicemen who did it, whatever. But picking Romney? Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 http://www.salon.com/2012/09/10/why_i_left_the_gop/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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