The Democrat Thread

[StrangeSox]

Las Vegas business owner fires 22 ‘mostly Hispanic’ employees over Obama win

 

“I’ve done my share of educating my employees,” business owner “David,” who refused to use his real name on air, told KSNT radio host Kevin Wall. “I never tell them which way to vote. I believe in the free system that we have. I believe in everybody having their right to choose who they want to be president.”

 

“And I explained that I always put them first and, unfortunately, I’m at a point now — and am being forced to — that I have to worry about me and my family now,” he continued. “I explained to them a month ago, if Obama gets in office, the regulations for Obamacare are going to hurt our business, and I am going to have to make provision to make sure that I have enough money to cover payroll taxes, the additional health care I’m going to have to do. And I explained that to them, and I said, ‘You do what you feel you need to do, but I’m just letting you know this as a warning that this is things I have to think of as a business owner.’”

 

Job Creators!

 

 

[Reddy]

http://whitepeoplemourningromney.tumblr.com/

[StrangeSox]

I purposefully decided not to give to Sandy relief. I don’t care that they are out of food and water. I don’t care that they are cold. I don’t care that they are dumpster diving for food. I don’t care that they are out of fuel for their cars and generators. You reap what you sow. Instead of preparing themselves, they relied on FEMA. Oh well.

 

In fact, I’m not going to be giving any charitable money to peoplewho are living in the blue states. When the next terrorist attack hits, and it will, it will most likely hit a target in a blue state. They won’t get a dime from me. I don’t feel sorry for them. Isn’t that what my taxes are for? They already get enough hand outs from me.

[StrangeSox]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/201...omney_loss.html

 

MARK LEVIN: We conservatives, we do not accept bipartisanship in the pursuit of tyranny. Period. We will not negotiate the terms of our economic and political servitude. Period. We will not abandon our child to a dark and bleak future. We will not accept a fate that is alien to the legacy we inherited from every single future generation in this country. We will not accept social engineering by politicians and bureaucrats who treat us like lab rats, rather than self-sufficient human beings. There are those in this country who choose tyranny over liberty. They do not speak for us, 57 million of us who voted against this yesterday, and they do not get to dictate to us under our Constitution.

 

We are the alternative. We will resist. We're not going to surrender to this. We will not be passive, we will not be compliant in our demise. We're not good losers, you better believe we're sore losers! A good loser is a loser forever. Now I hear we're called 'purists.' Conservatives are called purists. The very people who keep nominating moderates, now call us purists the way the left calls us purists. Yeah, things like liberty, and property rights, individual sovereignty, and the Constitution, and capitalism. We're purists now. And we have to hear this crap from conservatives, or pseudo-conservatives, Republicans.

[Reddy]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/201...omney_loss.html

i literally hate these people.

 

edit: and yes, i recognize the irony.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Reddy

[StrangeSox]

Now that the election is over, I cried for approximately 30 seconds, collected myself, and then got ready for work so that I can pay for a bunch of entitled whiners' "free" birth control, cigarettes, and Obamaphones, I have also had a chance to reflect on the the collective garbage that was the American lamestream media on historic Tuesday night.

 

I said the same thing today! You voted for it, heck you even cheated for it! Thousands are losing their jobs. I have seen so many news reports all over the country of 5 here, ten there and guess what? Small businesses are reporting? The first people cut are Obama supporters. Hope ya'll kept your mouthies shut and did not have that sticker on your car you drive to work! One Small Business owner said he walked the parking lot to determine his cuts LOL! Own it fools!

[Steve9347]

Are you posting comments on message boards or something? Why aren't these attributed to anyone?

[StrangeSox]

the unattributed quotes are mostly from freerepublic.com.

[StrangeSox]

oh Texas

 

Texas town adds sugar to water supply to encourage residents to drink more water

 

[StrangeSox]

Maddow 2016

 

Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/ms...w_show#49736294

[StrangeSox]

http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/...erica-only.html

 

I only wonder if there will ever be some sober reflection from these apocalyptic conservatives where they're a little ashamed of this stuff:

Express your hatred, shame, and outright disgust with anyone you know who voted Democrat

 

However, for me, I'm choosing another rather unique path; a personal boycott, if you will. Starting early this morning, I am going to un-friend every single individual on Facebook who voted for Obama, or I even suspect may have Democrat leanings. I will do the same in person. All family and friends, even close family and friends, who I know to be Democrats are hereby dead to me. I vow never to speak to them again for the rest of my life, or have any communications with them. They are in short, the enemies of liberty. They deserve nothing less than hatred and utter contempt.

 

I strongly urge all other libertarians to do the same. Are you married to someone who voted for Obama, have a girlfriend who voted 'O'. Divorce them. Break up with them without haste. Vow not to attend family functions, Thanksgiving dinner or Christmas for example, if there will be any family members in attendance who are Democrats.

 

some gems from the comments:

You're right. Not sure Obama is a communist or socialist. In my eyes he's more like a Nazi. One look at his pals in the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, is all you need to know on that.

 

Granted, he's a Nazi with a smiley face. Nazi-lite, if you will. But a Jew-hating socialist piece of s*** Nazi none-the-less.

 

Yes, Jim. You are 100% correct. And that may be our future course.

 

Check out the movie with Daniel Craig - Defiance from 2009. About the Jews who hid out in the forests of Bylo-Rus during the Nazi occupation in the early 1940s. Some of them perished. Others made it out alive.

 

We are now in those sorts of times. We are living in Nazi Germany circa 1933/34. Still plenty of time to escape. A year or two from now???

Obama literally is Hitler, Obamacare literally is the Holocaust, American is literally going to be Belarus under Nazi occupation - I saw it in a movie!

 

f*** you John. You're getting to be just as bad as goddamned Sean Hannity. "Oh, the world didn't end... blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... We can still come back, yady, yady, yady yah!"

 

I am more pissed off at people that tell me that today, than I am at Obama and the Demcrats.

 

THE COUNTRY ENDED YESTERDAY. IT IS OVER!!! THERE IS NO MORE FUTURE FOR AMERICA. WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY FREEDOM. WE ARE NOW LIVING IN NAZY GERMANY 1933/34.

 

Can we PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! just acknowledge that fact. And stop with all the godddamned "get over it man," talk?

[Reddy]

so much on this page

[greg775]

Now that the election is over, I cried for approximately 30 seconds, collected myself, and then got ready for work so that I can pay for a bunch of entitled whiners' "free" birth control, cigarettes, and Obamaphones, I have also had a chance to reflect on the the collective garbage that was the American lamestream media on historic Tuesday night.

 

QUOTE I said the same thing today! You voted for it, heck you even cheated for it! Thousands are losing their jobs. I have seen so many news reports all over the country of 5 here, ten there and guess what? Small businesses are reporting? The first people cut are Obama supporters. Hope ya'll kept your mouthies shut and did not have that sticker on your car you drive to work! One Small Business owner said he walked the parking lot to determine his cuts LOL! Own it fools!

 

Look, some of us just couldn't vote for Romney. What a horrible horrible candidate.

I mean I agree Obama is a miserable president, but don't blame us for voting for him when his opponent was Romney. My god. What a miserable choice. And Romney didn't even really say what he would do to turn it around.

I went with the least of two evils in my opinion. If I get laid off soon or fired, so be it. I'm thinking Romney for sure was the candidate of the rich bastards ruining this country. So have fun, rich bastards, start laying everybody off just because Obama won. Deep down they probably like laying everybody off and making their surviving employees work 10 times as hard for slashed pay.

Our country is in trouble, but not because Obama won. How the hell do you know Romney wouldn't have been even worse for the economy?? I thought everybody was blaming the economic downturn on the Republicans in the first place with incompetent Obama merely continuing it.

[StrangeSox]

After Obama reelection coal company CEO reads prayer to staff, announces layoff

 

Job Creators!

 

 

 

[GoSox05]

I like the one person who called Obama a "Jew-hating socialist piece of s*** Nazi."

 

 

I guess he didn't see this.

 

President Barack Obama received 69 percent of the Jewish vote Tuesday.

[greg775]

After Obama reelection coal company CEO reads prayer to staff, announces layoff

 

Job Creators!

 

Sounds like this guy was pretty happy about throwing a fit and laying people off.

[StrangeSox]

Romney and Ryan were supposed to be "numbers" guys, right? Business experts and policy wonks.

 

So why where they so shocked to lose on Tuesday when all of the numbers were telling them exactly what was going to happen?

[Jenksismyhero]

Romney and Ryan were supposed to be "numbers" guys, right? Business experts and policy wonks.

 

So why where they so shocked to lose on Tuesday when all of the numbers were telling them exactly what was going to happen?

 

 

The article says the trends were that MORE republicans and LESS democrats were going to vote. And on election day the opposite happened.

 

Romney and his campaign had gone into the evening confident they had a good path to victory, for emotional and intellectual reasons. The huge and enthusiastic crowds in swing state after swing state in recent weeks - not only for Romney but also for Paul Ryan - bolstered what they believed intellectually: that Obama would not get the kind of turnout he had in 2008.

 

They thought intensity and enthusiasm were on their side this time - poll after poll showed Republicans were more motivated to vote than Democrats - and that would translate into votes for Romney.

Edited November 9, 2012 by Jenksismybitch

[StrangeSox]

It appears that they were "unskewing" their own polls by assuming the electorate was going to be something that it wasn't. They refused to believe what the data were telling them. Absolutely no one who was paying any attention at all should have been surprised by an Obama win on Tuesday. Was it a sure thing? Absolutely not, but multiple reports indicate that the Romney campaign was in disbelief as the results came in.

 

All of that stuff on Tuesday afternoon that Soxbadger was nervous about? Romney "expanding the field" by going to Pennsylvania? Only writing a victory speech? They did it completely earnestly, not as a bluff.

[StrangeSox]

Bargains, Grand Bargains, and Conceptual Confusion

 

Since this is likely to come up again, it’s worth clarifying an issue that is likely to come up as the “fiscal cliff” “gentle fiscal incline” approaches. As stated in the most extreme form by Jessie Levine in comments, some people seem opposed to any deal using the leverage of the expiring Bush tax cuts to get something, even if we assume the final deal is favorable to liberals. This doesn’t make sense, of course. But some of this logic seems to come from confusion stemming from the use of the term “grand bargain.” This conflates things that should be kept distinct:

 

A “grand bargain,” — a long-term deficit reduction deal — is almost certainly a horrible idea for two reasons. First, while in theory a deficit deal could be struck at any level of expenditures and taxation, in practice such deals tend to be proposed by Pain Caucus types who just want to slash social spending in order to preserve or extend upper-class tax cuts. Simpson/Bowles was heavily tilted to conservative interests, even though it was made nominally progressive by proposals like an elimination of the mortgage interest deduction that have no chance of enactment. And more importantly, even in the extremely unlikely event that you could get a “Grand Bargain” on favorable terms the deals are entirely useless because they’re completely unenforceable. The Clinton surpluses were just used to fund massive tax cuts (with Alan Greenspan solemnly informing the public that we were in danger of paying down the the debt too quickly.) Since the Republican Party is if anything less interested in deficit reduction now, you’d have to be a world-class rube to fall for that again.

 

The fact that a “grand bargain” is a terrible idea doesn’t mean that any legislative bargain is a bad idea. One advantage of my not being a Republican is that I can feel free to evaluate a legislative deal based on its contents, and it’s silly to criticize a deal without knowing what the deal is. I’ll grant that “getting a legislative deal in which you gain more than you lose” isn’t a “battle cry of freedom,” but that’s also a pretty dumb standard to evaluate the outcomes of ordinary politics. What, if Obama was a real liberal he’d be sending federal troops to burn down the suburbs of the capital of every state that voted for Romney?

 

There’s no reason to assume in advance that any possible deal will be bad. You may not have noticed, but Republicans really like tax cuts. In 2010, they had the choice between severely damaging Obama’s re-election chances and extending the Bush tax cuts, and they chose the tax cuts. Maybe this can be leveraged into something, maybe it can’t, but there’s no reason not to try. Unlike with, say, the PPACA negotiations, this is a negotiation liberals can walk away from just as easily; four years from the next election, letting the Bush tax cuts expire in their entirety is fine.

Edited November 10, 2012 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

SCOTUS agreed to take up a case challenging Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act

[mr_genius]

SCOTUS agreed to take up a case challenging Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act

 

uh what is that

[StrangeSox]

The part of the Voting Rights Act that makes Jim Crow states get any changes to their electoral process approved. It's been utilized numerous times to protect minority voting rights.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights....94Preclearance

[StrangeSox]

An interesting analysis of the electorate:

 

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political...achin041099.php

 

he Republican Party is stuck between the revanchist cultural anxiety it needs to sustain its white male and elderly base, (which is actually encouraged and shared by its paymasters), and the inexorable erosion of that base. Any efforts to appeal to new immigrant groups of Latinos and Asian Americans (also carried 3-1 by Obama), let alone African Americans, will come up against the fears of the base that the country they knew is fast disappearing. To affirm the base’s cultural anxiety is to simultaneously denigrate the dark, lazy (John Sununu’s description of the president), moochers, criminals, and degenerates. Even a bland, representative business chieftain like Mitt Romney couldn’t run a technocratic, Mr. Fixit campaign at a time of slow economic growth. He needed surrogates like Sununu and bogus issues like Obama’s gutting of the welfare rules to make sure that the resentful stayed resentful. Other moderating voices of intellectual conservatism, like David Brooks or Ross Douthat, have more influence with their liberal friends than they do with Mitch McConnell or John Boehner—or certainly with Emma and John Runion in Florida.

 

No easy solution to this dilemma would appear forthcoming. The country badly needs a responsible, center right party, along the lines of the Canadian conservatives and almost every other center-right party in the world, led by a sober business class. When a party wins a landslide of the majority white vote, however, and still loses, it is in trouble.]

[StrangeSox]

The coming debt battle

Citing a phony "crisis," the GOP wants to gut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Democrats can't let them

 

That the looming debt and deficit crisis is fake is something that, by now, even the most dim member of Congress must know. The combination of hysterical rhetoric, small armies of lobbyists and pundits, and the proliferation of billionaire-backed front groups with names like the “Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget” is not a novelty in Washington. It happens whenever Big Money wants something badly enough.

 

Big Money has been gunning for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid for decades – since the beginning of Social Security in 1935. The motives are partly financial: As one scholar once put it to me, the payroll tax is the “Mississippi of cash flows.” Anything that diverts part of it into private funds and insurance premiums is a meal ticket for the elite of the predator state.

 

And the campaign is also partly political. The fact is, Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are the main way ordinary Americans connect to their federal government, except in wars and disasters. They have made a vast change in family life, unburdening the young of their parents and ensuring that every working person contributes whether they have parents, dependents, survivors or disabled of their own to look after. These programs do this work seamlessly, for next to nothing; their managers earn civil service salaries and the checks arrive on time. For the private competition, this is intolerable; the model is a threat to free markets and must be destroyed.