Jake Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 If the Rs think the sequester gives them leverage, they're wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Article on conservative navel-gazing in private - interesting read. They're actually not completely oblivious to where they've been f***ing up. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112253/...ervative-bunker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 28, 2013 -> 09:29 PM) Article on conservative navel-gazing in private - interesting read. They're actually not completely oblivious to where they've been f***ing up. http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112253/...ervative-bunker Great read. Unfortunate note that almost all the self-reflection came from those who are not elected officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Full transcript of Obama immigration remarks here http://flip.it/0hOdR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Former House Republican Financial Services Chair Mike Oxley says that the failure of the 2005 GSE reform bill to emerge from the Senate committee was not--as Republican hacks and shills maintain--the fault of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Chris Dodd, but of George W. Bush and Alan Greenspan: Oxley hits back at ideologues: In the aftermath of the US Treasury’s decision to seize control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, critics have hit at lax oversight of the mortgage companies. The dominant theme has been that Congress let the two government-sponsored enterprises morph into a creature that eventually threatened the US financial system. Mike Oxley will have none of it. Instead, the Ohio Republican who headed the House financial services committee until his retirement after mid-term elections last year, blames the mess on ideologues within the White House as well as Alan Greenspan, former chairman of the Federal Reserve. The critics have forgotten that the House passed a GSE reform bill in 2005 that could well have prevented the current crisis, says Mr Oxley, now vice-chairman of Nasdaq. He fumes about the criticism of his House colleagues. “All the handwringing and bedwetting is going on without remembering how the House stepped up on this,” he says. “What did we get from the White House? We got a one-finger salute.” The House bill, the 2005 Federal Housing Finance Reform Act, would have created a stronger regulator with new powers to increase capital at Fannie and Freddie, to limit their portfolios and to deal with the possibility of receivership. Mr Oxley reached out to Barney Frank, then the ranking Democrat on the committee and now its chairman, to secure support on the other side of the aisle. But after winning bipartisan support in the House, where the bill passed by 331 to 90 votes, the legislation lacked a champion in the Senate and faced hostility from the Bush administration. Adamant that the only solution to the problems posed by Fannie and Freddie was their privatisation, the White House attacked the bill. Mr Greenspan also weighed in, saying that the House legislation was worse than no bill at all. “We missed a golden opportunity that would have avoided a lot of the problems we’re facing now, if we hadn’t had such a firm ideological position at the White House and the Treasury and the Fed,” Mr Oxley says. via DeLong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Tennessee's "Don't Say Gay" bill now includes a provision that requires parents of gay children to notify the school that their child is gay. Headscratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 11:30 AM) Tennessee's "Don't Say Gay" bill now includes a provision that requires parents of gay children to notify the school that their child is gay. Headscratcher. They should secede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 11:51 AM) They should secede. This is what you get when you try to restrict speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sorry, I guess i'm assuming the "don't say gay" bill meant that Tennessee was trying to literally ban kids from saying gay in school (i've never heard of it before)? If not, disregard my prior post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 These bills (and there's several in different states) are meant to prohibit public schools from having any discussion or instruction on LGBT at all. They're anti-LGBT bills and this is just another ridiculous measure thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Appearing on Fox News last night, Graham made clear that he was unsatisfied with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s testimony last week, saying, “I haven’t forgotten about Benghazi. Hillary Clinton got away with murder, in my view.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Hilary Clinton literally murdered the ambassador, that is why she held back SEAL Team Six who was only minutes away, she had to destroy the evidence of her involvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 11:30 AM) Tennessee's "Don't Say Gay" bill now includes a provision that requires parents of gay children to notify the school that their child is gay. Headscratcher. Actually other way around! A school counselor, nurse, principal or assistant principal from counseling a student who is engaging in, or who may be at risk of engaging in, behavior injurious to the physical or mental health and well-being of the student or another person; provided, that wherever possible such counseling shall be done in consultation with the student’s parents or legal guardians. Parents or legal guardians of students who receive such counseling shall be notified as soon as practicable that such counseling has occurred This would require school staff to effectively "out" the student to their family, which could be a traumatic experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 When Hillary is elected President, Benghazi will appear as a few sentences in the "Controversy" section of her Wikipedia page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Sorry, I got my earlier statement backwards. The teachers must tell the parents if they believe the student is gay. The general assembly recognizes that certain subjects are particularly sensitive and are, therefore, best explained and discussed within the home. Because of its complex societal, scientific, psychological, and historical implications, human sexuality is one such subject. Human sexuality is best understood by children with sufficient maturity to grasp its complexity and implications [...] A school counselor, nurse, principal or assistant principal from counseling a student who is engaging in, or who may be at risk of engaging in, behavior injurious to the physical or mental health and well-being of the student or another person; provided, that wherever possible such counseling shall be done in consultation with the student’s parents or legal guardians. Parents or legal guardians of students who receive such counseling shall be notified as soon as practicable that such counseling has occurred At the discretion of school officials, students with potentially harmful tendencies or actions will be told on. These harmful tendencies would probably be high pitched voices in men, pants that are too tight, women with short haircuts, too many ass smacks on the basketball court, etc. Always good to help increase the amount of homeless LGBT youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 01:02 PM) These bills (and there's several in different states) are meant to prohibit public schools from having any discussion or instruction on LGBT at all. They're anti-LGBT bills and this is just another ridiculous measure thrown in. There was that big story in Rolling Stone last year about the Anoka-Hennepin school district up here that had a "Don't say the word 'gay'" policy and how terrible it was. Teachers were effectively restricted from saying anything helpful, and the rash of LGBT suicides in the area was at least partially attributed to the policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Poll shows a double standard on religious liberty The findings of a poll published Wednesday (Jan. 23), reveal a “double standard” among a significant portion of evangelicals on the question of religious liberty, said David Kinnaman, president of Barna Group, a California think tank that studies American religion and culture. While these Christians are particularly concerned that religious freedoms are being eroded in this country, “they also want Judeo-Christians to dominate the culture,” said Kinnamon. “They cannot have it both ways,” he said. “This does not mean putting Judeo-Christian values aside, but it will require a renegotiation of those values in the public square as America increasingly becomes a multi-faith nation.” IIRC it was a poll by the Barna Group that I posted several months ago that found that an increasing number of young people are leaving religion and that one of the biggest motivators are various churches' treatment of gays and lesbians. edit: this was the post QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 11, 2012 -> 07:22 AM) So this could go in this thread or the baby pills thread I guess, but it's a post on a recent survey by the Barna Group, a pro-Christian research firm: When asked by The Barna Group what words or phrases best describe Christianity, the top response among Americans ages 16-29 was “antihomosexual.” For a staggering 91 percent of non-Christians, this was the first word that came to their mind when asked about the Christian faith. The same was true for 80 percent of young churchgoers. (The next most common negative images? : “judgmental,” “hypocritical,” and “too involved in politics.”) Later research, documented in Kinnaman’s You Lost Me, reveals that one of the top reasons 59 percent of young adults with a Christian background have left the church is because they perceive the church to be too exclusive, particularly regarding their LGBT friends. Eight million twenty-somethings have left the church, and this is one reason why. The face of Christianity among American youth is bigotry. Edited January 31, 2013 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jan 31, 2013 -> 10:21 AM) Poll shows a double standard on religious liberty IIRC it was a poll by the Barna Group that I posted several months ago that found that an increasing number of young people are leaving religion and that one of the biggest motivators are various churches' treatment of gays and lesbians. Living in the South and parts of the Midwest has taught me what religious freedom means. It means if the government is not advocating for your religious beliefs, then your religious freedom is being oppressed. The government might let gays get married! ...but my religion says that's bad! The government won't let my son's teacher lead him in a nice Christian prayer in my public school! f*** the Muslims and the different way they pray they should get used to feeling different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 A religion built on hypocrisy is filled with hypocrites. In other news, sun is still rotating around Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 30, 2013 -> 12:30 PM) Tennessee's "Don't Say Gay" bill now includes a provision that requires parents of gay children to notify the school that their child is gay. Headscratcher. The guy who introduced this version: I can’t speak from personal experience, but being homosexual in and of itself is not deadly or dangerous. The act of homosexuality is very dangerous. I left a very good tip at the restaurant that refused to seat him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 The Texas GOP is floating a plan to use state funds to support companies that violate the federal health insurance contraception requirement. http://www.salon.com/2013/01/31/texas_gop_...eption_mandate/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Scott Brown will not run for John Kerry's Senate Seat. Woo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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