The Democrat Thread

[lostfan]

Looks a lot like maps of black population density

 

 

Not that racism would have anything to do with income inequality

Those are the most fertile areas of the country. You can actually go all the way back to tens of thousands of years ago, to where nutrients settled into the soil on this continent. So that's where the heaviest concentration of slaves were.

[Jake]

Those are the most fertile areas of the country. You can actually go all the way back to tens of thousands of years ago, to where nutrients settled into the soil on this continent. So that's where the heaviest concentration of slaves were.

 

Iowa and Illinois want some recognition

 

Corn n soybeans > you

[lostfan]

Iowa and Illinois want some recognition

 

Corn n soybeans > you

I read that in an article last year but of course I have no clue where to find it now. It's surprising how many direct descendants of slaves still live in the same place even after periods of major migration.

[Jake]

I read that in an article last year but of course I have no clue where to find it now. It's surprising how many direct descendants of slaves still live in the same place even after periods of major migration.

 

Indeed. Sometimes they migrated, but only a short ways. Much of the black population in Memphis (where I live, the "blackest" major metro in the USA) migrated from the deep south.

[Balta1701]

Those are the most fertile areas of the country. You can actually go all the way back to tens of thousands of years ago, to where nutrients settled into the soil on this continent. So that's where the heaviest concentration of slaves were.

Tens of thousands? Try "100 million".

[lostfan]

Tens of thousands? Try "100 million".

That's the article. I couldn't remember the time period so I just chose a big number and rolled with that. lol leave it to the earth scientist to correct me. That, and the "nutrients" I was referring to were "plankton," I remember this now

[StrangeSox]

Balta's just pulling your leg, the earth is only 6000 years old.

[StrangeSox]

Looks a lot like maps of black population density

 

 

Not that racism would have anything to do with income inequality

 

You know, I can't recall seeing a study that compared economic quintile mobility by race, gender, etc.

[Jake]

That's the article. I couldn't remember the time period so I just chose a big number and rolled with that. lol leave it to the earth scientist to correct me. That, and the "nutrients" I was referring to were "plankton," I remember this now

 

[Balta1701]

You know, I can't recall seeing a study that compared economic quintile mobility by race, gender, etc.

Something a number of people have noticed is that the swath of bad opportunities for poor people seems to largely track the geography of where the African-American population is disproportionately located. That naturally lends itself to the hypothesis that it isn't so much that poor people have bad opportunities in these places as that black people lack upward mobility and happen to be concentrated in the southeast.

 

But the researchers actually looked at this, and that's not the case. Upward mobility for low-income people of all races is negatively correlated with the size of the local black population.

Not exactly the same question but worth adding.

[Jake]

You can't make this s*** up. Ohio gay couple (married in MD) wishes to be buried together in family plot that requires one's spouse to be "lawfully wedded." Federal judge rules in their favor, says dying man with ALS can have his husband buried next to him. This is a ruling that affects nobody except these two, not a sweeping, precedent-setting ruling. Ohio AG will appeal to try to make sure that their marriage remains unrecognized on official documents, thus preventing this man from getting his dying wish.

 

disgusting

[StrangeSox]

You can't make this s*** up. Ohio gay couple (married in MD) wishes to be buried together in family plot that requires one's spouse to be "lawfully wedded." Federal judge rules in their favor, says dying man with ALS can have his husband buried next to him. This is a ruling that affects nobody except these two, not a sweeping, precedent-setting ruling. Ohio AG will appeal to try to make sure that their marriage remains unrecognized on official documents, thus preventing this man from getting his dying wish.

 

disgusting

 

I disagree. The ruling requires Ohio to recognize all gay marriages from other states as valid. The same logic would likely apply to other states as well, depending on their history of marriage recognition.

 

edit: the ruling says it only applies to this couple, but I really fail to see how the exact same ruling would be made for any gay couple married out-of-state and moving to/living in Ohio.

 

This is not a complicated case. The issue is whether the State of Ohio can discriminate against same sex marriages lawfully solemnized out of state, when Ohio law has historically and unambiguously provided that the validity of a marriage is determined by whether it complies with the law of the jurisdiction where it was celebrated. Throughout Ohio’s history, Ohio law has been clear: a marriage solemnized outside of Ohio is valid in Ohio if it is valid where solemnized… How then can Ohio, especially given the historical status of Ohio law, single out same sex marriages as ones it will not recognize? The short answer is that Ohio cannot.

 

Still, absolutely disgusting.

Edited July 25, 2013 by StrangeSox

[Jenksismyhero]

It's an interesting question if the federal government has the authority to tell a state how it must recognize marriage, especially where a state constitutional amendment says they don't want to recognize gay marriage. The recent DOMA case before the SC seemed to suggest that the Court wanted the states to keep that right.

[StrangeSox]

It's an interesting question if the federal government has the authority to tell a state how it must recognize marriage, especially where a state constitutional amendment says they don't want to recognize gay marriage. The recent DOMA case before the SC seemed to suggest that the Court wanted the states to keep that right.

 

This ruling is pointing to equal protection concerns, which were part of the DOMA decision but not the entirety of it. According to the ruling, Ohio would recognize any out-of-state marriage even if it wouldn't have been permitted in Ohio. For example, some states allow first cousin marriages while others don't. Assuming for example that Ohio doesn't, they would still recognize an out-of-state first cousin marriage as valid. If they are rejecting this marriage simply because of the genders of the individuals, there's a strong equal protection argument.

 

This ruling seems like it would apply to Ohio and states that had marriage recognition policies like Ohio, but not necessarily to every state.

[Jake]

Whole Foods employee quits, sends letter detailing hypocrisy of company and hilariously rips co-workers

[Y2HH]

Whole Foods employee quits, sends letter detailing hypocrisy of company and hilariously rips co-workers

 

Yawn, another angry "whistleblower" letter from an angry former employee. Maybe this person should take their own advice in that they were "only working in a supermarket and should relax". Then again, to some people, it'd be a great job to have.

 

I think at any job I've ever worked, there are positives and negatives, but I never felt compelled to do something like this, and it irks me we gave people like this even a few minutes of fake fame. I worked at Jewel for years, and then Osco for a few years following that, and both were similar. To me, they were stepping stones to my career, helping get a resume together that showed I could keep a job, but to others that worked there, it WAS their career, and it helped them pay their bills. If you don't like where you work THAT badly, quit.

[Jake]

Yawn, another angry "whistleblower" letter from an angry former employee. Maybe this person should take their own advice in that they were "only working in a supermarket and should relax". Then again, to some people, it'd be a great job to have.

 

I think at any job I've ever worked, there are positives and negatives, but I never felt compelled to do something like this, and it irks me we gave people like this even a few minutes of fake fame. I worked at Jewel for years, and then Osco for a few years following that, and both were similar. To me, they were stepping stones to my career, helping get a resume together that showed I could keep a job, but to others that worked there, it WAS their career, and it helped them pay their bills. If you don't like where you work THAT badly, quit.

 

There's definitely some sour grapes, but Whole Foods is renowned for both treating their employees like s*** and being giant hypocrites. I went to apply at a Whole Foods, asked an employee how I could do that, and he graced me with a speech about how I really should reconsider getting myself into that hellhole. Had a similar experience at another one. Then I started researching online and saw that this was pretty commonplace.

[Y2HH]

There's definitely some sour grapes, but Whole Foods is renowned for both treating their employees like s*** and being giant hypocrites. I went to apply at a Whole Foods, asked an employee how I could do that, and he graced me with a speech about how I really should reconsider getting myself into that hellhole. Had a similar experience at another one. Then I started researching online and saw that this was pretty commonplace.

 

Well, depending on the employee you meet, that could apply at any job. I know that despite stories, I would have rather worked at Whole Foods than Jewel, but Jewel is who hired me. Wasn't the best job in the world, but it was a job, and I took it -- and kept it -- for a good 3 years. My main goal with the job was to show I could stay put, nothing more. I'd have preferred to be elsewhere, but Jewel was convenient (close to home), and it's what we had.

 

I know for a fact there are people where I work now that would tell you to stay as far away as possible, but my own experience would be to say, if you can get in, get in, and stay in for as long as you can.

[Jake]

Well, depending on the employee you meet, that could apply at any job. I know that despite stories, I would have rather worked at Whole Foods than Jewel, but Jewel is who hired me. Wasn't the best job in the world, but it was a job, and I took it -- and kept it -- for a good 3 years. My main goal with the job was to show I could stay put, nothing more. I'd have preferred to be elsewhere, but Jewel was convenient (close to home), and it's what we had.

 

I know for a fact there are people where I work now that would tell you to stay as far away as possible, but my own experience would be to say, if you can get in, get in, and stay in for as long as you can.

 

I'd probably go to a place that had a fairly conventional division of labor, like Jewel (I'm assuming). I may very well find myself working at a place like that soon if I don't get the funding I need for grad school.

[StrangeSox]

There's definitely some sour grapes, but Whole Foods is renowned for both treating their employees like s*** and being giant hypocrites. I went to apply at a Whole Foods, asked an employee how I could do that, and he graced me with a speech about how I really should reconsider getting myself into that hellhole. Had a similar experience at another one. Then I started researching online and saw that this was pretty commonplace.

their founder is a giant libertarian douche, not surprised their employees are treated lik s***

[Jake]

their founder is a giant libertarian douche, not surprised their employees are treated lik s***

 

Also a climate change denier

[StrangeSox]

Welcome to Cook, One of America’s Safest Counties

 

A new study published in the Annals of Emergency Medicine finds that rural areas contain a 20% greater risk of injury or death. The biggest factor appears to be motor vehicle injuries.

[StrangeSox]

And the Shenanigans Begin

 

After Shelby County v. Holder, the big question was how different things would really be. After all, plenty of places, including states with highly contentious fights about election procedures and redistricting such as Ohio and Pennsylvania, have never been covered anyway. Was Section 5 really holding back a flood of election changes across the South that would negatively affect minority voters? Or were voting rights advocates’ fears overblown?

 

As of today it has been a month since Shelby County, and we’re starting to find out. In short, it looks like the voting rights advocates knew what they were talking about. (As did Justice Ginsburg, who told the AP today, “I didn't want to be right, but sadly I am.”)

 

[T]he greatest impact of Shelby County will likely be at the local level—in places where media scrutiny is minimal, and litigation resources meager. You will hear less about these local cases. But I think that’s a problem; they are really where the action is. [...] With the gradual decline of local journalism, I only know about this story because of a blog post (and many of you who are reading this probably only know about it because of this blog post). Across the South, many controversies of this kind are going to go under the radar, with no reporter, or even a blogger, bothering to cover them at all.

[Balta1701]

Begun? They began the day the decision was announced. Texas jumped that day.

[Soxbadger]

I like to believe that those who try and use rules to create unfair advantages one day lose because of those very rules they created.

 

Karma, irony, I just always hope that the universe is as twisted as I am.