lostfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 23, 2008 -> 07:53 PM) I never realized he was black. McClellan or D.L. Hughley? McClellan is definitely not black. However, out of these conservatives coming out and endorsing Obama, the one that has to sting the most to McCain is the Goldwater family. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 03:14 PM) McClellan or D.L. Hughley? McClellan is definitely not black. However, out of these conservatives coming out and endorsing Obama, the one that has to sting the most to McCain is the Goldwater family. Ouch. I'm fairly certain he was making a "Rush Limbaugh on Colin Powell" joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 10:15 AM) I'm fairly certain he was making a "Rush Limbaugh on Colin Powell" joke. I get it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Palin: I never wore those $150,000 worth of clothes Sarah Palin told FOX News on Thursday that some of the clothes that were ill-fitting or just bought to be tried and possibly worn were returned right away. Everything that "could be returned was," she said. Another third of the clothing remains unwrapped and packed in the belly of the vice presidential candidate's campaign plane and the rest is being worn. "Those clothes are not my property," Palin told FOX News' Sean Hannity. "We had three days (at the convention) of using clothes that the RNC purchased." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 10:16 AM) I get it now. I see you're just as slow as I am in picking up the humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 10:32 AM) I see you're just as slow as I am in picking up the humor. It's hard to pick up sarcasm over text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 10:31 AM) Palin: I never wore those $150,000 worth of clothes This could be the most pointless conversation being held at this time. Icould care less where her clothes came from. I know the government wastes a-lot more of this money than anything. To me I kind of like the idea that she does not have a fancy enough wardrobe. This is as pointless as anything covered in the media thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Lemon Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 09:48 AM) This could be the most pointless conversation being held at this time. Icould care less where her clothes came from. I know the government wastes a-lot more of this money than anything. To me I kind of like the idea that she does not have a fancy enough wardrobe. This is as pointless as anything covered in the media thus far. I think the reason it was covered was because of how Palin described herself (i.e. modest hockey mom), then disproving that by spending 150k on clothes, 20k on makeup, etc. I agree it is a stupid issue, and it is not important to me. Ultimately, the media have been doing it for years, such as when Gore was lambasted for days by the media for getting a fashion consultant to make him appear less stuffy. Then Clark was made fun of by the media in the '04 primaries becuase he wore a sweater to one of the debates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 That girl who was mugged and attacked lied. Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama. My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 12:44 PM) That girl who was mugged and attacked lied. Pathetic I knew that was fake as soon as I saw the pic on the Smoking Gun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) I knew that was fake as soon as I saw the pic on the Smoking Gun... So I guess the B is backwards because dumbass scratched it into her face while she was looking in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 10:34 AM) Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama. My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate? We'll find out - Maya Rudolph is supposed to be on SNL this weekend as Michelle. (Also, Michelle is not running for office - Buchanan is comparing apples and oranges) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama. My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate? Slow it down there Pat, we all know how you really feel about black people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama. My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate? Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 01:34 PM) Pat Buchanan asked what would happen if SNL mocked Michelle Obama. My response would that would be... what would happen if Michelle Obama was in a debate and spoke the whole time in "South Side" slang and gave a shout-out during a debate? I think if Michelle Obama got up on stage and did this it would go over great if America could really laugh that off, which they can't, which is why she can not and SNL will not do that. The morons that are the general public would really not get the joke and I am talking about the gun toting run to Jesus crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 GWB Redux: * More than 100 appointments to state posts -- nearly 1 in 4 -- went to campaign contributors or their relatives, sometimes without apparent regard to qualifications. * Palin filled 16 state offices with appointees from families that donated $2,000 to $5,600 and were among her top political patrons. * Several of Palin's leading campaign donors received state-subsidized industrial development loans of up to $3.6 million for business ventures of questionable public value. * Palin picked a donor to replace the public safety commissioner she fired. But the new top cop had to resign days later under an ethics cloud. And Palin drew a formal ethics complaint still pending against her and several aides for allegedly helping another donor and fundraiser land a state job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 My question about Michelle Obama was partly mocking, partly rhetorical, and partly serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 QUOTE (lostfan @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 01:35 PM) So I guess the B is backwards because dumbass scratched it into her face while she was looking in the mirror. That's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Kind of long but a good read... The Myth Of A Maverick by dday Matt Stoller has scored an incredible interview with a staffer from John McCain's 2000 Presidential campaign. It might not surprise you, given the sludge that his campaign is currently running, that the style is virtually unchanged from those days, when he was this supposed straight-talking honorable maverick. John McCain hasn't changed a bit. McCain 2000 staffer: Yes, in South Carolina he had the Quinn's running his campaign out of their office. McCain did very well with establishment Republicans in NH... they helped him get his big win there along with independents. The Quinn's (Rick and Richard) are notorious. Matt Stoller: For what? McCain 2000 staffer: Well, they are probably one of the few consultants in SC that everyone would want. But... They also publish the Southern Partisan magazine. Which is extremely racist. McCain 2000 staffer: McCain had their support and they were our consultants there. A good get for a Republican in the primary. Matt Stoller: Wow McCain 2000 staffer: He also had the support of some state officials and legislators that were important. Not to mention Graham and Sanford who at the time were both US Reps. Now one is a Senator and the other is Governor Matt Stoller: The general consensus among pundits is that McCain in 2000 was destroyed by George Bush's dirty tricks (masterminded by Karl Rove). These tricks included claims he fathered a black child and attacks on his record in Vietnam. McCain 2000 staffer: Had the Quinn's won SC for McCain he would have been the nominee in 2000. Matt Stoller: But that McCain himself ran an honorable campaign. McCain 2000 staffer: Ha! Again, the story is more detailed than that. Rove ran a Rove campaign. So yes, they were dirty. But we were too. I remember the week after NH, we surged in SC polls from something like 10pts behind Bush to 10pts ahead. After a little slipping because Bush was letting surrogates go after McCain's military history, we went up with an ad that said Bush twisted the truth just like Clinton. The ad aired for one day. The press said McCain was going negative, the Bush people screamed bloody murder, and our campaign went into a tail spin. Had that ad not run, I'm convinced, and if you spoke to people from the SC campaign or Weaver or Davis and they were honest with you they would agree, that ad sank the campaign. Matt Stoller: What were some of the rumors the campaign was pushing about Bush? McCain 2000 staffer: I remember talking with reporters after events about Bush's DUI. I remember senior press staff doing that. I remember them talking about Laura Bush's horrible car accident, saying that she may have been drunk when it happened. On a funny side note, during a debate Bush held up this flyer we were handing out door to door and at events that said Bush would hurt seniors... it was a really nasty flyer aimed at scaring the elderly. So Bush holds it up and asks McCain about it. McCain looks at Bush and says it isn't from his campaign. Bush points out that it says McCain's campaign paid for it. McCain then says well we have stopped doing that. Keep in mind, McCain swore off negative TV ads after the Clinton one failed so badly. So I'm watching the debate and I'm like... is he crazy? We have people in the field handing that out TONIGHT. He blew up at the staff that night over the flyer. Vintage McCain. He doesn't mind getting deep in the mud when it works for him. But if he gets caught? Hell-to-pay. And then he plays the straight-talking martyr. Matt Stoller: Was he responsible for the flyer, or was it some sort of rogue operation within the campaign? What kind of tone did he and his senior advisors set? McCain 2000 staffer: Ultimately McCain signed off on everything. That's how he operated. Very military minded, chain of command so to speak. The tone? Well, I think a story illustrates that better. On the campaign we had this right of passage called being WOW'd. It stood for Wrath of Weaver. If you ever experienced his wrath you essentially made it to the in-team. McCain on the other hand, being on the receiving end of his temper was NEVER a good thing. It wasn't something you bragged about over drinks with co-workers like you did with Weaver. It could be brutal. It's sort of funny in retrospect. At the end of ads these days, candidates have to say 'I'm so and so, and I approve this message." McCain is the guy who made that law. To see the filth he's been approving is pretty sick, but not unexpected. This would be a nice story to fax to David Broder and Chris Matthews and Joe Klein, these pundits who did somersaults any time McCain was in their general orbit for years, and who think that this dive into the muck is only of recent vintage. McCain has been saying and doing anything to get elected for a long, long time. The gasbags became so impressed by this military man and his presumed honor that they made up a story about him, created an image basically out of nothing, an image that until this year made him the most respected Republican politician in America. Now a few of them are seeing the error of their ways, but they're replacing it with another story - John McCain's changed. He had to go to the dark side in this election. He didn't even want to, it's those Rove protégés around him that are pushing this noble warrior into it. Wrong. All wrong. McCain lives for knifing his political enemies. He just wants deniability for it, which so many in the media are willing to give him thanks to this carefully cultivated image. The great axiom of modern politics is that if someone on television is telling you how honorable a politician is, well, just turn the sound off, because it's nothing but inauthentic flattery. Cocktail parties don't have this much gladhanding at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 The vet who did not vet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 LMAO! Bob Cesca's blog rules. Stranahan Mauled By McCain Supporter! Look! Awesome photo evidence of Lee Stranahan after he was attacked by a McCain thug! Seriously! Giant red letters! Siren light animated gif! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Remembering Paul Wellstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 24, 2008 -> 04:32 PM) That's hilarious. She would have been better off Carving an "O" for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts