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It would be nice if McCain actually paid attention to what Barack said instead of sleeping in until 9AM every day...

 

First he is "stunned" when Obama says Joe the Plummer wouldn't be finned in Obama's healthcare system.

 

Now McCain doesnt even know Obama's tax plan:

The McCain campaign is jumping all over Biden's interview yesterday with a Scranton TV affiliate, in which Biden said that people making under $150,000 per year would get a tax cut under Obama's tax plan.

 

“Sen. Obama has made a lot of promises," the Arizona senator said in remarks his campaign passed around to reporters. "First, he said people making less than 250,000 dollars would benefit from his plan. Then this weekend, he announced in an ad that if you're a family making less than 200,000 dollars you'll benefit. But yesterday, right here in Pennsylvania, Sen, Biden said tax relief should only go to 'middle class people -- people making under 150,000 dollars a year.' It's interesting how their definition of rich has a way of creeping down. At this rate, it won't be long before Senator Obama is right back to his vote that Americans making just 42,000 dollars a year should get a tax increase. We can't let that happen.”

 

Biden aides say his comments were actually consistent with Obama's tax plan -- people under $150,000 get a cut, and people making up to $250,000 stay the same.

 

Indeed, here's what Obama said at the Saddleback forum in August: "What I can say is under the approach I'm taking, if you make $150,000 or less, you will see a tax cut. If you're making $250,000 a year or more, you're going to see a modest increase."

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 10:45 AM)
It would be nice if McCain actually paid attention to what Barack said instead of sleeping in until 9AM every day...

 

First he is "stunned" when Obama says Joe the Plummer wouldn't be finned in Obama's healthcare system.

 

Now McCain doesnt even know Obama's tax plan:

 

You mean the same plan that Obama won't decide on?

 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/amy-menefee/2...how-much-it-yet

 

That Business Health Tax? Obama 'Decided Not to Decide' How Much It Is -- Yet

 

The Oct. 26 New York Times took on Sen. Barack Obama's elusive health insurance mandate for employers -- the "play-or-pay" rule that would force businesses to pay a new tax if they didn't contribute a "meaningful" amount toward their workers' insurance. In the debates, Sen. John McCain asked more than once how much businesses would be fined, and Obama declined to say.

 

Now we know why. Just 'cuz.

 

“We made a decision even before the plan was rolled out not to decide,” David M. Cutler, a Harvard economist who speaks for the campaign on health care, told the Times. “Itâ€s not that thereâ€s a decision out there that weâ€re not telling. Itâ€s literally that weâ€ve decided not to decide.”

 

The Times's Kevin Sack visited Massachusetts, one of the country's experimental labs for universal health care, and talked with employers about the $295-per-employee penalty they pay for not contributing to their workers' health benefits. Sack reported that amount would likely be peanuts compared to a new federal tax.

 

Not too surprisingly, the state government has come calling again -- asking businesses to "contribute" more. And business owners fear it could happen on a federal level, too.

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The Obama tax program involves increasing by a whopping 4% the tax rate for those whose adjusted gross income is over $250,000, and reducing taxes on everyone else.

 

Republicans have rightly pointed out that 40% of American households do not pay income tax -- although they more often wrongly just stop at saying that they do not pay taxes, period. From the second, wrong, statement, they assert that giving money to those who do not pay taxes is welfare, socialism and, now, communism.

 

Actually, these lower income people do pay taxes -- payroll taxes and medicare taxes that are quite significant. Lest anyone become apoplectic that revenues from those taxes are not part of the budget, think again: the social security trust fund has been making up the deficits in the US budget for decades. If it were not for appropriating the surplus in the social security trust fund, even the Republican Congress would have found it difficult to enact its tax cuts.

 

But even if that were not true, and that the social security trust fund were indeed in a 'lock-box', the Republicans have a bigger problem: the earned income tax credit ("EITC") that was enacted by Gerald Ford and then re-enacted and expanded in 1986 by... could it be, don't tell me, say it ain't so!... Ronald Reagan.

The EITC uses tax revenues (derived from our progressive tax system) to provide additional income to people below certain income levels under a formula so that it gradually phases out as incomes increases. Qualifying families receive a monthly check from the government.

 

So, Ronald Reagan was a redistributor. That must mean he was a socialist, even a communist.

 

That's what happens when you pal around with Mikhail Gorbachev.

 

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 02:08 PM)
GOP Homepage... Can You Spot McCain?

It's Where's Waldo... without the Waldo

 

 

 

Wow, both the GOP and DNC have something in common.... they both love to talk about Obama.

 

I really think McCain lost his grip when the Republicans decided to spend more time talking about Obama than about McCain's policies.

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QUOTE (Heads22 @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 01:54 PM)
I really think McCain lost his grip when the Republicans decided to spend more time talking about Obama than about McCain's policies.

I think McCain would be in equal amounts of trouble if they'd focused on their policies. Hell, today one of their top spokespeople accidentally pointed out that their health care reform plan was garbage. Their health care plan is based on giving people a tax credit to go in to the (Much more expensive) individual market while putting a tax on the benefits people receive through work. Thus, it drives people out of the employer based health care plan and in to the individual market. Today, one of their guys said that they wanted people to stay in the employer based market because it's a better deal than the individual one. Then why are you trying to force people out!

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Interesting point... Palin's state is socialist

The state that she governs has no income or sales tax. Instead, it imposes huge levies on the oil companies that lease its oil fields. The proceeds finance the government’s activities and enable it to issue a four-figure annual check to every man, woman, and child in the state. One of the reasons Palin has been a popular governor is that she added an extra twelve hundred dollars to this year’s check, bringing the per-person total to $3,269.
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QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 28, 2008 -> 07:35 PM)
Interesting, the one I got just says:

 

Thanks for signing up for an election night ticket.

 

You will receive further information in the coming days.

 

Im wondering if they are giving out tickets to people who donated and/or volunteered first.

ahhh ok. I never went so far as to sign up. Not only do I have a newborn at home, I also have to work from 7-8:30 (as I do every Tuesday. I'm at work right now). Theoretically I can get out of being here that day, but I try not to abuse my opt-out option.

 

That's an interesting point about the order of who gets tickets. I would THINK there would be a percentage (maybe 10-20%) that go first to those that spent time and money as a thank you.

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So I was at the Illinois State building (69 W. Washington) where they have early voting in the basement, there were long lines. It was pretty interesting to see just how many people seem to be voting early, I think voter turnout may be really high this year.

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