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QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 01:04 AM)
It doesn't matter in the sense that it's right or wrong, but again this idea of the effects of it don't make sense when your dealing with groups of terrorists, not a sovereign nation with an army.

 

I don't really care about torture in the aspect of how it will affect how terrorists treat us. I also don't care think the response to torture reports are more important to comment on than the torture itself.

 

The problem with torture is torture itself.

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Speaking of Democrats and Obama ...

 

Did anybody see that AWESOME skit on Sat. Night Live a week or so ago where they had that funny cast member, don't know his name, the chubby (fat?) guy as host of a panel discussion.

 

The gist of it was he asks his black guests questions about Obama failures and the guest comments on them and agrees that Obama is a joke, then the host asks the guest, "Does he lose your vote??"

The guest immediately says, "No."

 

He repeats it with 3-4 guests and they all say "no," when the host says, "does he lose your vote?"

 

It's really funny and backs what I've said all along that Obama would be president the next 20 years or so if we had no term limits and he could keep running.

No matter what he does and how inept he is ... he'd keep winning. It's a big LOL on our entire country.

 

s***, it's like Kansas. Brownback is the worst government official probably in U.S. history (did you see the cuts he announced this week; slashing all sorts of organizations who do good things for citizens; and he'll kill all the programs for the elderly, etc) and what do KANSANS do ... they re-elect him. Shakin my head.

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Nebraska and Oklahoma sue Colorado over marijuana legalization

 

Two neighboring states are asking the U.S. Supreme Court to strike down Colorado’s laws legalizing recreational marijuana.

 

The Colorado attorney general’s office says the states of Nebraska and Oklahoma have filed the lawsuit directly with the nation’s highest court. The attorney general’s office says the lawsuit alleges “that Colorado’s Amendment 64 and its implementing legislation regarding recreational marijuana is unconstitutional under the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution.”

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QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 10:46 PM)
Speaking of Democrats and Obama ...

 

Did anybody see that AWESOME skit on Sat. Night Live a week or so ago where they had that funny cast member, don't know his name, the chubby (fat?) guy as host of a panel discussion.

 

The gist of it was he asks his black guests questions about Obama failures and the guest comments on them and agrees that Obama is a joke, then the host asks the guest, "Does he lose your vote??"

The guest immediately says, "No."

 

He repeats it with 3-4 guests and they all say "no," when the host says, "does he lose your vote?"

 

It's really funny and backs what I've said all along that Obama would be president the next 20 years or so if we had no term limits and he could keep running.

No matter what he does and how inept he is ... he'd keep winning. It's a big LOL on our entire country.

 

s***, it's like Kansas. Brownback is the worst government official probably in U.S. history (did you see the cuts he announced this week; slashing all sorts of organizations who do good things for citizens; and he'll kill all the programs for the elderly, etc) and what do KANSANS do ... they re-elect him. Shakin my head.

 

You do realize the whole point of the skit was that Obama was still better than the alternatives. The gist was that these black folks felt so unwanted by the rest of politics that of course they weren't going to desert the first black President. Besides, they weren't listing off Obama failures, they were listing off hypotheticals like having his daughters talk back to him and other stuff like that.

 

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#3 House Republican spoke at white nationalist rally in 2002, said he shared many of former KKK head David Duke's "conservative" values in 1999. He also voted against MLK Day in the Louisiana state house in 2004.

 

Off to a good start.

 

edit: also, too, (R-Throw a Reporter off a Balcony), Michael Grimm is resigning after pleading guilty to tax evasion

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 31, 2014 -> 08:13 AM)
#3 House Republican spoke at white nationalist rally in 2002, said he shared many of former KKK head David Duke's "conservative" values in 1999. He also voted against MLK Day in the Louisiana state house in 2004.

 

Off to a good start.

 

edit: also, too, (R-Throw a Reporter off a Balcony), Michael Grimm is resigning after pleading guilty to tax evasion

 

 

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He did not speak at the White Nationalist Rally. But whatever fits the narrative.. Obama listened to hate speech for 20 plus years in a church...you are good with that. Happy New Year

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realizing that all my favorite blogs are now gone. It was a slow march.

 

I'm most sad about what TPM has become. What once was a hard hitting investigative and insightful sight, has now become huffpo light. Marshall barely blogs. A commentor said it best on a really s*** article about MLK's mother being shot, calling it "the salonification of TPM". It hit the nail on the head. All it is now is John Oliver/Daily show clips, "wacky republican quote" and filler.

 

 

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Rauner is making it pretty clear that his number one goal in Springfield is to smash unions. More charter schools, allowing city-by-city right-to-work (a man to death) and now his illegal executive order trying to make the state rtw for public employee unions.

 

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121051/...unions-illinois

 

Doesn't really seem to have any other plans.

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QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 14, 2015 -> 10:18 AM)
Rauner is making it pretty clear that his number one goal in Springfield is to smash unions. More charter schools, allowing city-by-city right-to-work (a man to death) and now his illegal executive order trying to make the state rtw for public employee unions.

 

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121051/...unions-illinois

 

Doesn't really seem to have any other plans.

 

I have no love lost for most "modern" unions.

 

They loved the era in which they could force huge fees and levy massive minimum number of hours worked coupled with high overtime wages (think McCormick Center and other examples like it), until they chased off all the business they were fleecing for years with stuff such as having to hire 50 electricians for a minimum of 4 hours of work when they only needed 1 electrician for 15 minutes of work. Or when they implemented ridiculous rules and regulations preventing regular people from being able to plug a power cable into a power receptical because only an "official union contractor" could perform such an action.

 

They brought a lot of this anti-union sentiment on themselves, and anyone that's ever had to deal with this sort of nonsense knows exactly what I'm talking about.

 

Unions, for all the good they once did, have become a corrupted version of what they were meant to be and by and large are no longer necessary as states/federal worker rights now exist.

 

If we could do away with all the rules/regulations that artificially inflate the cost of hiring a union worker, and the corruption at the top of the union, they'd have a place in my mind again, but until then, and in their current forms, they can go die.

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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Feb 15, 2015 -> 07:11 AM)
I have no love lost for most "modern" unions.

 

They loved the era in which they could force huge fees and levy massive minimum number of hours worked coupled with high overtime wages (think McCormick Center and other examples like it), until they chased off all the business they were fleecing for years with stuff such as having to hire 50 electricians for a minimum of 4 hours of work when they only needed 1 electrician for 15 minutes of work. Or when they implemented ridiculous rules and regulations preventing regular people from being able to plug a power cable into a power receptical because only an "official union contractor" could perform such an action.

 

They brought a lot of this anti-union sentiment on themselves, and anyone that's ever had to deal with this sort of nonsense knows exactly what I'm talking about.

 

Unions, for all the good they once did, have become a corrupted version of what they were meant to be and by and large are no longer necessary as states/federal worker rights now exist.

 

If we could do away with all the rules/regulations that artificially inflate the cost of hiring a union worker, and the corruption at the top of the union, they'd have a place in my mind again, but until then, and in their current forms, they can go die.

 

+1000000000.

 

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 24, 2015 -> 12:09 PM)
CPD operates an off the books, previously unknown, interrogation blacksite where captured suspects vanish for a time without access to family or legal representation or even acknowledgment of where they are.

 

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.

 

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

 

Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:

 

Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.

Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.

Shackling for prolonged periods.

Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.

Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.

At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.

 

ugh this is just repulsive.

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Bad lieutenant: American police brutality, exported from Chicago to Guantánamo

Exclusive: At the notorious wartime prison, Richard Zuley oversaw a shocking military interrogation that has become a permanent stain on his country. Part one of a Guardian investigation reveals he used disturbingly similar tactics to extract confessions from minorities for years – as a police officer in urban America

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