The Democrat Thread

[southsider2k5]

I'm a little torn on this. Yay for finally going after execs who make awful, life-altering decisions....but at the same time, 28 years? Seems like a smidge too much. I won't lose sleep over it though. Good riddance.

 

For 9 dead people? I'd be OK with the death penalty honestly.

[StrangeSox]

But it was more of an increased risk situation than a known death/murder situation.

 

To me something like the GM situation is even worse. You know when people drive that car there will be deaths if the engine turns off. Here, yeah, you can assume based on the numbers people will get sick, but i'm not sure you can say death is a very likely result. Perhaps i'm underscoring the severity of salmonella though.

 

I guess the real problem is the peanut industry isn't as good at lobbying the government not to file criminal charges like the auto industry. 124 deaths not as big of a deal as 9, apparently.

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-charges-gm...itch-1442502075

 

About 400 people die annually from salmonella in this country. Deaths are a pretty easily predictable outcome.

[Jenksismyhero]

About 400 people die annually from salmonella in this country. Deaths are a pretty easily predictable outcome.

 

Yeah but look at that list. You get hundreds/thousands of people sick, but no deaths. If your car engine turns off, chances are much, much greater that death or serious injury will occur.

 

Not absolving this guy of anything, but it's more a comparison to other, worse decisions that had even worse consequences. If ss2k5 is going to light this guy up - which i'm fine with - there's not much of a bar on the severity of the crime to the punishment in other cases.

[southsider2k5]

Yeah but look at that list. You get hundreds/thousands of people sick, but no deaths. If your car engine turns off, chances are much, much greater that death or serious injury will occur.

 

Not absolving this guy of anything, but it's more a comparison to other, worse decisions that had even worse consequences. If ss2k5 is going to light this guy up - which i'm fine with - there's not much of a bar on the severity of the crime to the punishment in other cases.

 

I'd be OK with that as well.

[StrangeSox]

Agreed, more CEO's need to get a shave from the National Razor.

[bmags]

Yeah but look at that list. You get hundreds/thousands of people sick, but no deaths. If your car engine turns off, chances are much, much greater that death or serious injury will occur.

 

Not absolving this guy of anything, but it's more a comparison to other, worse decisions that had even worse consequences. If ss2k5 is going to light this guy up - which i'm fine with - there's not much of a bar on the severity of the crime to the punishment in other cases.

 

When children or old people get sick with something severe like this, some die. The flu does not come close to killing everyone it touches, but it is widespread and hits the most vulnerable.

 

A lot of people eat peanut butter. You'd have to be an idiot to be a CEO in the food industry and not know this risk.

[greg775]

Pretty sure the story is they took off their jackets as they posed, he probably had no idea.

I'm not a big Bush fan but I would never do this to somebody. I have a sense of humor but it's kind of bush league of the Sanders supporters.

[bmags]

Where does that rank compared to claiming the president is a secret muslim born in Kenya and illegitimate as president, above or below on the bush league scale?

[cabiness42]

Where does that rank compared to claiming the president is a secret muslim born in Kenya and illegitimate as president, above or below on the bush league scale?

 

Just don't forget where the "Obama wasn't born in the US" claim started.

[greg775]

Hillary is making it too easy for me. So she blasts the Republicans in this clip for not naming any names of women who should appear on the 10 dollar bill. Then TMZ asks Hillary the same fricking question and she won't answer it either. LOL. What a country. What great choices for President again.

 

[Y2Jimmy0]

Hillary is making it too easy for me. So she blasts the Republicans in this clip for not naming any names of women who should appear on the 10 dollar bill. Then TMZ asks Hillary the same fricking question and she won't answer it either. LOL. What a country. What great choices for President again.

 

 

 

That whole question during the debate was pointless. Every GOP candidate had a layup too. Nancy Regan. She's sitting right f***ing there and those idiots were talking about their mothers.

[Brian]

That whole question during the debate was pointless. Every GOP candidate had a layup too. Nancy Regan. She's sitting right f***ing there and those idiots were talking about their mothers.

 

Everyone who answered their wives should be forced to drop out.

[StrangeSox]

Drug Goes From $13.50 a Tablet to $750, Overnight

Specialists in infectious disease are protesting a gigantic overnight increase in the price of a 62-year-old drug that is the standard of care for treating a life-threatening parasitic infection.

 

The drug, called Daraprim, was acquired in August by Turing Pharmaceuticals, a start-up run by a former hedge fund manager. Turing immediately raised the price to $750 a tablet from $13.50, bringing the annual cost of treatment for some patients to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

This is not the first time the 32-year-old Mr. Shkreli, who has a reputation for both brilliance and brashness, has been the center of controversy. He started MSMB Capital, a hedge fund company, in his 20s and drew attention for urging the Food and Drug Administration not to approve certain drugs made by companies whose stock he was shorting.

 

In 2011, Mr. Shkreli started Retrophin, which also acquired old neglected drugs and sharply raised their prices. Retrophin’s board fired Mr. Shkreli a year ago. Last month, it filed a complaint in Federal District Court in Manhattan, accusing him of using Retrophin as a personal piggy bank to pay back angry investors in his hedge fund.

 

Mr. Shkreli has denied the accusations. He has filed for arbitration against his old company, which he says owes him at least $25 million in severance. “They are sort of concocting this wild and crazy and unlikely story to swindle me out of the money,” he said.

 

edit: more detailed explanation of what Shkreli's doing here.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archi...d-its-a-bad-one

 

By various means, old generic compounds have ended up as protected species, and several companies have made it their business to take advantage of these situations to the maximum extent possible. The FDA grants market exclusivity to companies that are willing to take “grandfathered” compounds into compliance with their current regulatory framework, and that’s led to some ridiculous situations with drugs like colchicine and progesterone. (Perhaps the worst example is a company that’s using this technique to get ahold of a drug that’s currently being provided at no charge whatsoever). There are also loopholes that companies are trying to exploit when competitors try to prove generic equivalence: whatever it takes to keep competition away and get unlimited pricing power.

Edited September 23, 2015 by StrangeSox

[greg775]

That whole question during the debate was pointless. Every GOP candidate had a layup too. Nancy Regan. She's sitting right f***ing there and those idiots were talking about their mothers.

So what? Hillary did the same thing in that clip. She wouldn't name fricking anybody after ripping the Republicans. She must go away. I don't think we've ever had a President as outwardly egotistical as Hillary. It's going to be a disaster.

[bmags]

Greg: familiar with history.

[caulfield12]

So what? Hillary did the same thing in that clip. She wouldn't name fricking anybody after ripping the Republicans. She must go away. I don't think we've ever had a President as outwardly egotistical as Hillary. It's going to be a disaster.

 

Besides Jimmy Carter and maybe Gerald Ford, name just one from history without one of the biggest egos. Maybe Bush, Sr. (Note the fact that none of them are thought to be close to the top tier).

 

Read 1776 by David McCullough. Think Washington was modest? Think again.

 

Bill, Barack and George W.? Huge again. Trump? Out of the stratosphere.

 

 

 

Someone will probably use Abraham Lincoln as an example, but he was a once in a lifetime leader that wouldn't see the light of day in today's media climate with the focus on looks and pithy sound bites.

[bmags]

Besides Jimmy Carter and maybe Gerald Ford, name just one from history without one of the biggest egos. Maybe Bush, Sr. (Note the fact that none of them are thought to be close to the top tier).

 

Read 1776 by David McCullough. Think Washington was modest? Think again.

 

Bill, Barack and George W.? Huge again. Trump? Out of the stratosphere.

 

 

 

Someone will probably use Abraham Lincoln as an example, but he was a once in a lifetime leader that wouldn't see the light of day in today's media climate with the focus on looks and pithy sound bites.

 

Also, Nixon/LBJ/TR, probably wilson too

[greg775]

Also, Nixon/LBJ/TR, probably wilson too

Please make Hillary go away! Just retire, Hillary. Relax and enjoy your money.

 

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/hillary-c...9/23/id/692921/

[NorthSideSox72]

You HAVE to have a huge ego to even contemplate a run for President, and even larger to potentially pull it off. Nature of the beast. All these guys and gals have big egos, though some (Trump comes to mind) have ones that are extra-large even compared to their candidate cohorts. Make no mistake though, even the ones who seem most unassuming in public (like maybe Carson or Huckabee or Sanders) are greatly driven by ego.

[southsider2k5]

Also, Nixon/LBJ/TR, probably wilson too

 

Andrew Jackson for sure.

[bmags]

Greg, I'm not ever opening up a newsmax article.

[StrangeSox]

greg has found some great sources lately! newsmax, infowars, pamelagellar.com

[ron883]

Greg, we get it. You are sexist. Give it a rest.

[greg775]

Greg, we get it. You are sexist. Give it a rest.

I'm not a sexist. I mean look, Carly ruined HP and I don't like these big-time CEOs of companies that get paid zillions of dollars when the little guy gets much less. Hillary? Geez. There are so many examples of her being just an elitist-type mean person. I don't want her in the White House, sorry. And ooops add Sarah Palin to my dislike/hate list. I mean I just don't like anything bout her, either. From her policies to her demeanor, me no likey Palin.

 

Now Elizabeth Dole?? I love her. Class act. Wonderful! Give me some more choices. Not Florina and Hilly for gosh sakes. I respect many many people on soxtalk. I just don't see how anybody who likes a good hot dog and beer and ballgame, a down and dirty Chicago southsider, can be for somebody who comes across as so non-chicago as Hilly!

 

Again, I will support women! Just not Hilly/Florina/Sarah.

Edited September 24, 2015 by greg775

[MEANS]

Greg: Carly Fiorina