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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 03:17 PM)
I don't know why anyone other than a hard core conservative would visit his site.

Eh, I'm anything but the above, but during non-election times his site is a pretty entertaining one to visit to get all of the days headlines.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:14 PM)
I think the original one said "Loose a Turn".

 

But why not release them to shut everyone up?

Why should she have to though? What if she has herpes or something? Should she have to reveal that to everybody?

 

I know it sounds like I'm being facetious but I'm not.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:31 PM)
Why should she have to though? What if she has herpes or something? Should she have to reveal that to everybody?

 

I know it sounds like I'm being facetious but I'm not.

 

I thought it was pretty standard for candidates running for the executive branch to release their medical records. I think I would reconsider my vote if Obama was diagnosed with lung cancer.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 02:31 PM)
Why should she have to though? What if she has herpes or something? Should she have to reveal that to everybody?

 

I know it sounds like I'm being facetious but I'm not.

A partial release is something they could also have done. Or they could just put them in a room, give people 20 minutes, and say "That's all you get".

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 02:33 PM)
I thought it was pretty standard for candidates running for the executive branch to release their medical records. I think I would reconsider my vote if Obama was diagnosed with lung cancer.

It's worth noting that the one he brought up, Herpes, might well be one of those things that wouldn't affect the performance of her job but which she might not want released. That's somewhat reasonable. But on the other hand, there are more than a few things that could affect a person's performance in a high stress job which we don't get the chance to check for.

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 12:46 PM)
Congratulations. You just missed the point entirely.

 

Oh well. I'm past bipartisanship. The R's need to feel our pain for a change. Sorry if I'm angry but I passed way too many Yes on 8 signs on my way to work this morning. Those people need a rude awakening.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:33 PM)
A partial release is something they could also have done. Or they could just put them in a room, give people 20 minutes, and say "That's all you get".

I thought she did that already? Like 2-3 weeks ago.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:31 PM)
Why should she have to though? What if she has herpes or something? Should she have to reveal that to everybody?

 

I know it sounds like I'm being facetious but I'm not.

While I agree most times medical records should be private, she is the one running for office and could be in a position to have the most powerful job in the world. Voters should know the medical histories of all candidates, just like baseball teams should put players through physicals when signing them or trading for them. If there is something seriously wrong with them, or a possibility of serious issues that could either prevent them from being able to serve or affect their ability to do the job, voters should know. If they have herpes, while it may show a lack of judgement at one time and maybe not, it probably isn't something that everyone needs to know.

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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:36 PM)
Oh well. I'm past bipartisanship. The R's need to feel our pain for a change. Sorry if I'm angry but I passed way too many Yes on 8 signs on my way to work this morning. Those people need a rude awakening.

ok, you California people refresh my memory... Yes on 8 would say get rid of gay marriage?

 

Personally, you're talking to one "Republican" (no, I'm not a registered one) that thinks they need to stay the hell out of issues like this, period. So, no, I don't need to feel any of that BS pain. I feel it enough already. :lol:

 

 

 

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:40 PM)
While I agree most times medical records should be private, she is the one running for office and could be in a position to have the most powerful job in the world. Voters should know the medical histories of all candidates, just like baseball teams should put players through physicals when signing them or trading for them. If there is something seriously wrong with them, or a possibility of serious issues that could either prevent them from being able to serve or affect their ability to do the job, voters should know. If they have herpes, while it may show a lack of judgement at one time and maybe not, it probably isn't something that everyone needs to know.

I'm not arguing that the important stuff shouldn't be released, I'm just wondering why some people (not necessarily here in the Filibuster) think they're entitled to seeing a candidate's full medical history. I just threw herpes out there as an obvious example of a medical condition someone wouldn't want publicized.

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QUOTE (lostfan @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 02:46 PM)
I'm not arguing that the important stuff shouldn't be released, I'm just wondering why some people (not necessarily here in the Filibuster) think they're entitled to seeing a candidate's full medical history. I just threw herpes out there as an obvious example of a medical condition someone wouldn't want publicized.

Well, here's the question...do voters have a right to discriminate based on medical conditions in a way that most employers don't have because of the nature of the government position?

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An independent GOP group has been running an Obama / Rev Wright had pretty heavily recently. It ends with "Barack Obama... Too Radical... Too Risky"

 

I'm I reading into it too much by using the word "radical" when referring to a black preacher and black candidate that it's pretty blatant race baiting? Why not too extreme?

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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:46 PM)
ok, you California people refresh my memory... Yes on 8 would say get rid of gay marriage?

 

Personally, you're talking to one "Republican" (no, I'm not a registered one) that thinks they need to stay the hell out of issues like this, period. So, no, I don't need to feel any of that BS pain. I feel it enough already. :lol:

 

Yes on 8 would actually nullify existing marriages.

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QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:52 PM)
An independent GOP group has been running an Obama / Rev Wright had pretty heavily recently. It ends with "Barack Obama... Too Radical... Too Risky"

 

I'm I reading into it too much by using the word "radical" when referring to a black preacher and black candidate that it's pretty blatant race baiting? Why not too extreme?

A black pastor preaching black sepratism and reparations isnt radical? God Damn Amerikkka isnt radical? Oh, i forgot, 'radical' is code for 'black'. So is 'smart', 'uppity', 'talks well', 'intellectual' 'socialist' and others. I wonder if 'guy' is a safe word?

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QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 04:36 PM)
Oh well. I'm past bipartisanship. The R's need to feel our pain for a change. Sorry if I'm angry but I passed way too many Yes on 8 signs on my way to work this morning. Those people need a rude awakening.

Just so you know, there is a large hispanic population, that usually votes Democratic, that is for prop 8. It isn't entirely along political party lines as you might believe.

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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:47 PM)
Just so you know, there is a large hispanic population, that usually votes Democratic, that is for prop 8. It isn't entirely along political party lines as you might believe.

From polling data, I wouldn't say so far there's evidence that they're "For" it. It's almost split for Latino groups.

Minority groups, expected to come out strongly for Democrat Barack Obama on Tuesday, could play a key role in the Prop. 8 vote. Latino voters are split almost evenly, 46 to 48 percent, on the measure, while black voters back the same-sex marriage ban, 49 to 43 percent.

 

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We're exepcting rain all day tomorrow here in North Carolina. Should be interesting how this effects the turnout. 40% of registered voters have already cast ballots and it is assumed Obama is leading significantly from these early votes.

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QUOTE (HawkDJ @ Nov 4, 2008 -> 05:05 AM)
We're exepcting rain all day tomorrow here in North Carolina. Should be interesting how this effects the turnout. 40% of registered voters have already cast ballots and it is assumed Obama is leading significantly from these early votes.

 

I'm surprised that in this day and age rain still does anything.

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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 3, 2008 -> 05:47 PM)
Just so you know, there is a large hispanic population, that usually votes Democratic, that is for prop 8. It isn't entirely along political party lines as you might believe.

 

I'm hoping they're all illegals and can't vote anyway. f***ing Jesus - he always screws good s*** up.

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