The Republican Thread

[GoSox05]

probably beaten by pro-Democrat SEIU members

 

We all know how violent those nursing home workers can get.

[mr_genius]

We all know how violent those nursing home workers can get.

 

well, patients in nursing homes are often abused (mainly by SEIU workers probably).

 

 

here's an angry SEIU dignitary in his natural environment.

 

 

 

[Balta1701]

FWIW, so far the police report contains no statements suggesting a political motivation behind the attack and the NOPD has so far denied stating that there was any political motivation.

[southsider2k5]

FWIW, so far the police report contains no statements suggesting a political motivation behind the attack and the NOPD has so far denied stating that there was any political motivation.

 

lol.

[Balta1701]

lol.

So...everything Goldman Sachs does is legal, and no one ever gets assaulted in New Orleans unless they're Republican.

[southsider2k5]

So...everything Goldman Sachs does is legal, and no one ever gets assaulted in New Orleans unless they're Republican.

 

And at the same time you are trying to tell me that the GS announcement wasn't politically motivated, and nothing ever happens because someone is a Republican, crimes are only politically motivated against those poor victim of hate crimes, the Democrats.

[Cknolls]

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/04/goog...nistration.html

 

 

Most ethical open transparent admin.....Keep trying.....

[southsider2k5]

Here's a great way to ease the middle eastern tention... How about a joke?

 

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...1984994,00.html

[juddling]

I don't know which is worse....the fact that the Navy is actually considering naming a ship after John Murtha or the fact that when asked about it Nancy Pelosi referred to Murtha as a 'a tireless advocate for troops generally and Marines in particular"

 

WHAT??????

 

The man who screamed bloody murder (literally) after the Haditha incident???? He went out of his way on numerous media outlets accusing honorable Marines of murdering civilians in cold blood. He repeated this slander over and over again, causing the arrest of eight Marines. All charges were dropped against six, and the seventh was found not guilty. Yet Murtha never recanted his statements, he never apologized for his slander, and was unapologetic about the havoc he wreaked up until the day he died.

 

 

I guess nothing should surprise me anyomre....

 

[EvilMonkey]

I don't know which is worse....the fact that the Navy is actually considering naming a ship after John Murtha or the fact that when asked about it Nancy Pelosi referred to Murtha as a 'a tireless advocate for troops generally and Marines in particular"

 

WHAT??????

 

The man who screamed bloody murder (literally) after the Haditha incident???? He went out of his way on numerous media outlets accusing honorable Marines of murdering civilians in cold blood. He repeated this slander over and over again, causing the arrest of eight Marines. All charges were dropped against six, and the seventh was found not guilty. Yet Murtha never recanted his statements, he never apologized for his slander, and was unapologetic about the havoc he wreaked up until the day he died.

 

 

I guess nothing should surprise me anyomre....

And ships in that class are usually named after cities, not crooked politicians.

[Balta1701]

And ships in that class are usually named after cities, not crooked politicians.

John C. Stennis says hi.

[Controlled Chaos]

Obama: “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money”

Shareposted at 8:48 am on April 29, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

 

Via News alert and Breitbart TV, consider this Share the Wealth 2010. Barack Obama went off the TelePrompter in his speech to a Quincy, Illinois audience about Wall Street reform. After saying that Democrats don’t begrudge success that’s “fairly earned,” Obama then ad-libs — and reveals more about himself than he probably wanted:

 

We’re not, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy.

 

Compare that to his remarks as prepared for delivery:

 

Now, we’re not doing this to punish these firms or begrudge success that’s fairly earned. We don’t want to stop them from fulfilling their responsibility to help grow our economy.

 

He should have stuck with the TelePrompter. The President doesn’t get to decide when people have “made enough money.” In fact, as the radio host notes, that’s a statist point of view. Furthermore, the responsibility of an entrepreneur isn’t to “grow our economy,” core or otherwise. It’s to grow his own economy. In a properly regulated capitalist system, the natural tension of self-interests create economic growth through innovation and efficient use of capital and resources.

Put simply, a free people work for themselves, not for the government. Barack Obama seems to have a problem understanding that.

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Obama: “I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money”

Shareposted at 8:48 am on April 29, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

 

Via News alert and Breitbart TV, consider this Share the Wealth 2010. Barack Obama went off the TelePrompter in his speech to a Quincy, Illinois audience about Wall Street reform. After saying that Democrats don’t begrudge success that’s “fairly earned,” Obama then ad-libs — and reveals more about himself than he probably wanted:

 

We’re not, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy.

 

Compare that to his remarks as prepared for delivery:

 

Now, we’re not doing this to punish these firms or begrudge success that’s fairly earned. We don’t want to stop them from fulfilling their responsibility to help grow our economy.

 

He should have stuck with the TelePrompter. The President doesn’t get to decide when people have “made enough money.” In fact, as the radio host notes, that’s a statist point of view. Furthermore, the responsibility of an entrepreneur isn’t to “grow our economy,” core or otherwise. It’s to grow his own economy. In a properly regulated capitalist system, the natural tension of self-interests create economic growth through innovation and efficient use of capital and resources.

Put simply, a free people work for themselves, not for the government. Barack Obama seems to have a problem understanding that.

 

 

Which is funny coming from a guy who has made millions himself, and continues to do so. If you wonder where people start to get the ideas to throw around words like socialism and communism, it is exactly stuff like this. Like it or not, NO ONE has a RESPONSIBILITY to grow the economy. That is not anywhere to be found in our constitution. In fact quite the opposite. The rights of the individual are stressed over and over and over again.

 

[Jenksismyhero]

So far this is Obama's policy:

 

To the poor -don't worry, everyone will pay for everything for you, cuz life is tough, and we understand. Keep those cell phone plans, the cars and houses you can't afford, no problem. We got your back. People with money are evil!

 

To the rich - whoa there! You make way too much money. Give it back. The poor deserve that money. It's your responsibility to give it to them.

 

To everyone else - You don't get anything. Keep slaving away to pay your share and to help out with everyone less fortunate than you.

 

Ah. The American Dream.

Edited April 29, 2010 by Jenksismybitch

[Jenksismyhero]

Well that's cool, public jobs outpay private jobs now

 

 

[NorthSideSox72]

Well that's cool, public jobs outpay private jobs now

Interesting, but, explain this to me:

 

Data compiled by the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis reveals the extent of the pay gap between federal and private workers. As of 2008, the average federal salary was $119,982, compared with $59,909 for the average private sector employee. In other words, the average federal bureaucrat makes twice as much as the average working taxpayer. Add the value of benefits like health care and pensions, and the gap grows even bigger. The average federal employee's benefits add $40,785 to his annual total compensation, whereas the average working taxpayer's benefits increase his total compensation by only $9,881. In other words, federal workers are paid on average salaries that are twice as generous as those in the private sector, and they receive benefits that are four times greater.

 

The situation is the same when state and local government compensation data is compared with that of the private sector. As the Cato Institute's Chris Edwards notes in the current issue of the Cato Journal, "The public sector pay advantage is most pronounced in benefits. Bureau of Economic Analysis data show that average compensation in the private sector was $59,909 in 2008, including $50,028 in wages and $9,881 in benefits. Average compensation in the public sector was $67,812, including $52,051 in wages and $15,761 in benefits." Those figures likely underestimate the true gap on the benefits side because the typical government employee gets a guaranteed defined benefit pension under very generous terms, while the private sector norm is a 401(K) defined contribution plan that is subject to the ups and downs of the economy.

 

 

The article first states that the average federal salary is like 119k, then quotes the commerce department saying its 52k. Sort of makes me question the validity of the data.

[Jenksismyhero]

Interesting, but, explain this to me:

 

 

The article first states that the average federal salary is like 119k, then quotes the commerce department saying its 52k. Sort of makes me question the validity of the data.

 

The first is federal employee versus private sector employee, the second is federal/state/local government employee versus private sector employee.

[Balta1701]

The real meat to the data is what the "Average" is telling you, because very few people in the public sector receive the kind of salary Lloyd Blankfein does (question; does that could things like Rick Waggoner's $10 million golden parachute as public or private?)

 

It could mean...the federal government hires very few minimum wage employees compared to the private sector. Until it seizes Wal-mart, this is probably true.

 

It could mean...the federal government requires more highly educated workers than most of the private sector.

 

It could mean...a lot of the income in the private sector is counted differently because it is recorded as things like stock options/premium health care and retirement packages for the wealthiest.

 

It could mean...public sector positions provide health care benefits and the private sector, especially for low-income workers, does not.

 

It could mean...they counted all the bank bonuses as public sector benefits since the taxpayers paid for them.

[NorthSideSox72]

The first is federal employee versus private sector employee, the second is federal/state/local government employee versus private sector employee.

That would mean that state/local employees were making a very small fraction of what private sector does. That seems as hard to believe as the 119k avg federal salary number, which is highly suspect.

 

Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if gov't employee compensation is above private sector now. That is entirely plausible.

 

[Jenksismyhero]

That would mean that state/local employees were making a very small fraction of what private sector does. That seems as hard to believe as the 119k avg federal salary number, which is highly suspect.

 

Mind you, I wouldn't be surprised if gov't employee compensation is above private sector now. That is entirely plausible.

 

I dunno, I mean I think once you start including low level local jobs (think middle of nowhere librarian or something), it makes sense that the average drops dramatically. What's the comparable federal job? Post office worker? Once you add in pensions and pay scales, I bet those guys make near 6 figures by the time they retire.

 

And the average salary being 119k....seems a litle high. Congressional aides make up to 170k (I figured about 50k tops). There's a TON of money to be made as a federal employee in Washington for sure.

 

 

[EvilMonkey]

John C. Stennis says hi.

The Stenis is an aircraft carrier. I said ships OF THAT CLASS (San Antonio class amphibious transport dock) have been named after cities, not crooked politicians. ream much, or were you in a hurry to try and show me up?

 

Current ships IN THAT CLASS are:

# USS San Antonio (LPD-17)

# USS New Orleans (LPD-18)

# USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19)

# USS Green Bay (LPD-20)

# USS New York (LPD-21)

# USS San Diego (LPD-22)

# USS Anchorage (LPD-23)

# USS Arlington (LPD-24)

# USS Somerset (LPD-25)

[Cknolls]

The Stenis is an aircraft carrier. I said ships OF THAT CLASS (San Antonio class amphibious transport dock) have been named after cities, not crooked politicians. ream much, or were you in a hurry to try and show me up?

 

Current ships IN THAT CLASS are:

# USS San Antonio (LPD-17)

# USS New Orleans (LPD-18)

# USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19)

# USS Green Bay (LPD-20)

# USS New York (LPD-21)

# USS San Diego (LPD-22)

# USS Anchorage (LPD-23)

# USS Arlington (LPD-24)

# USS Somerset (LPD-25)

 

 

Isn't MURTHA the newest city in Pennsylvania? After all he did bring home the pork. That is the least they could do for him

[EvilMonkey]

Isn't MURTHA the newest city in Pennsylvania? After all he did bring home the pork. That is the least they could do for him

Well, they DO have an airport named after him, and I am sure there are more than a few buildings and parks, perhaps a road or two, so that wouldn't be totally unbelievable.

[southsider2k5]

The real meat to the data is what the "Average" is telling you, because very few people in the public sector receive the kind of salary Lloyd Blankfein does (question; does that could things like Rick Waggoner's $10 million golden parachute as public or private?)

 

It could mean...the federal government hires very few minimum wage employees compared to the private sector. Until it seizes Wal-mart, this is probably true.

 

It could mean...the federal government requires more highly educated workers than most of the private sector.

 

It could mean...a lot of the income in the private sector is counted differently because it is recorded as things like stock options/premium health care and retirement packages for the wealthiest.

 

It could mean...public sector positions provide health care benefits and the private sector, especially for low-income workers, does not.

 

It could mean...they counted all the bank bonuses as public sector benefits since the taxpayers paid for them.

 

Or it could mean we pay a lot of money for pretty s***ty work by our federal government.

[KipWellsFan]

Obama's quote:

 

"We’re not, we’re not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that’s fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you’re providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy."

 

Are you guys serious? Who out there doesn't think that at some point more riches won't help an individual. Besides he adds, "keep on making it [money] if you’re providing a good product or providing good service." In addition, if you listen to the to the quote he says it in his jokey/casual way.

 

You can complain about his policies or that they unfairly burden the wealthy job creators all you want. But this quote doesn't mean s***. I don't trust someone who doesn't at some point realize that more money doesn't really help you, and make your life better. But as Obama states, if you're creating a good product/service (think jobs), all the power to you!

Edited April 30, 2010 by KipWellsFan