Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 10:02 AM) When you get Jon Stewart telling you to shut up, you know you've gone too far... This is what Stewart had to say about Reid: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/j...amp;ir=Politics He literally has zero reason to shut up. Yes, his words were unfairly personal, but the only way there's a downside for him is if Mitt Romney releases a decade of tax returns to prove him wrong, which Mitt clearly can't do. It's a swift boat move, but we've proven that's total fair game. People do know why Reid would bring "Mitt Romney's Father" into this right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:02 AM) When you get Jon Stewart telling you to shut up, you know you've gone too far... This is what Stewart had to say about Reid: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/02/j...amp;ir=Politics Stewart's "bothsidesdoitism" gets annoying sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:10 AM) He literally has zero reason to shut up. Yes, his words were unfairly personal, but the only way there's a downside for him is if Mitt Romney releases a decade of tax returns to prove him wrong, which Mitt clearly can't do. It's a swift boat move, but we've proven that's total fair game. People do know why Reid would bring "Mitt Romney's Father" into this right? It's not fair when Democrats play Republican politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:10 AM) He literally has zero reason to shut up. Yes, his words were unfairly personal, but the only way there's a downside for him is if Mitt Romney releases a decade of tax returns to prove him wrong, which Mitt clearly can't do. It's a swift boat move, but we've proven that's total fair game. People do know why Reid would bring "Mitt Romney's Father" into this right? When you have Stewart pushing back against you, it's not a very good start... Reid also has to be careful with this...while you say Mitt can't do it...you have no idea if he can or not. What if this is another Obama birther thing in the making? Where the lefty-loons drone on and on about Mitt's tax returns for months on end, and right before the election he releases them, quashing their entire platform in the process? They'd better have a better game plan than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:14 AM) It's not fair when Democrats play Republican politics Though by definition it isn't "Republican politics". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 10:19 AM) When you have Stewart pushing back against you, it's not a very good start... Reid also has to be careful with this...while you say Mitt can't do it...you have no idea if he can or not. What if this is another Obama birther thing in the making? Where the lefty-loons drone on and on about Mitt's tax returns for months on end, and right before the election he releases them, quashing their entire platform in the process? They'd better have a better game plan than this. I can't imagine that there's any situation where releasing his tax returns in October is some kind of positive October surprise, because at the very least, it'd be a huge reminder of how rich and out of touch Mitt is, which is one of the attacks that worked so well against Kerry. If Mitt didn't have something that would generate a lot of negative press in his previous years returns, there's zero reason to hold them out. Holding them out keeps this an issue. Releasing them makes them a major issue for a few days as everything is chopped through and you get a dozen stories about the different rich-person deductions Mitt has taken that aren't available to us proles. If there's nothing obscene in there though, like a 2% tax rate or taking $10 and turning it into $43 million, then release them and then 3 days later the story is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:19 AM) Though by definition it isn't "Republican politics". Republican-style. edit: it's shady and not really an intellectual debate of policies, but it's politics. Edited August 3, 2012 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:25 AM) Republican-style. Which has been going on in America since before the Republican Party even existed. Pretty impressive, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 10:26 AM) Which has been going on in America since before the Republican Party even existed. Pretty impressive, don't you think? Andrew Jackson's wife remains a pipe smoking woman of ill repute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Agreedo. Politics-as-practiced-by-modern-Republicans as opposed to the Democrats' typical milquetoast crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:23 AM) I can't imagine that there's any situation where releasing his tax returns in October is some kind of positive October surprise, because at the very least, it'd be a huge reminder of how rich and out of touch Mitt is, which is one of the attacks that worked so well against Kerry. If Mitt didn't have something that would generate a lot of negative press in his previous years returns, there's zero reason to hold them out. Holding them out keeps this an issue. Releasing them makes them a major issue for a few days as everything is chopped through and you get a dozen stories about the different rich-person deductions Mitt has taken that aren't available to us proles. If there's nothing obscene in there though, like a 2% tax rate or taking $10 and turning it into $43 million, then release them and then 3 days later the story is over. People try to make a bigger deal out of this than it actually is. Everyone in Washington is some degree of rich, so nobody really cares about that. It's not some secret that Romney is rich, just like it's not a secret that Kerry was rich...yes, maybe richer than others, but there isn't a voter out there that doesn't realize Obama has a ton of money, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:29 AM) Andrew Jackson's wife remains a pipe smoking woman of ill repute. ...and seriously, that avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:32 AM) People try to make a bigger deal out of this than it actually is. Everyone in Washington is some degree of rich, so nobody really cares about that. It's not some secret that Romney is rich, just like it's not a secret that Kerry was rich...yes, maybe richer than others, but there isn't a voter out there that doesn't realize Obama has a ton of money, too. The DNC's main message appears to be economic inequality and unfairness. Running against a very, very wealthy ex-financial CEO who paid a very low tax rate in the one year he's released his returns makes that all the easier to sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 09:35 AM) The DNC's main message appears to be economic inequality and unfairness. Running against a very, very wealthy ex-financial CEO who paid a very low tax rate in the one year he's released his returns makes that all the easier to sell. It's ironic when rich people try to use economic inequality as their main weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Not really, not when they're arguing that the rules of the game need to be changed to favor the rich less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 10:33 AM) ...and seriously, that avatar? We deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 10:47 AM) Not really, not when they're arguing that the rules of the game need to be changed to favor the rich less. They're yelling hollow arguments for the support it will bring them, all the while knowing they have no real intention of changing much, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 So does this mean that when Romney wins the White House that the Republicans can sic the IRS on George Soros and every other large Obama donor? I mean if Obama can do it...... http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,2898540.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) So does this mean that when Romney wins the White House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Mark Kirk released a video over the weekend http://www.examiner.com/article/sen-mark-k...ollowing-stroke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 06:06 PM) So does this mean that when Romney wins the White House that the Republicans can sic the IRS on George Soros and every other large Obama donor? I mean if Obama can do it...... http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/na...0,2898540.story I'm more impressed by the guy that lost 125 million gambling. Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Well, word has it that Romney has added some new "pros" to his campaign to get things going. Couldn't get any worse I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/31356...7-michael-walsh This is pretty good stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Do you think Sarah Palin is the worst government official in your lifetime? After hearing her say the word "maverick" ... do you wish the word was expunged from the dictionary so you never have to hear it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOXOBAMA Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) Romney chose Paul Ryan as his VP choice source: Fox News Edited August 11, 2012 by SOXOBAMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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