GoSox05 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (mr_genius @ May 31, 2009 -> 06:33 PM) John Walker Lindh is an ant-abortion guy now? i did not know that. i did not know that. No the American version of them. You know wonderful people like Pat Robertson and Randall Terry. Altough i'm sure Johnny Walker has similar views on the subject. Edited June 1, 2009 by GoSox05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 31, 2009 -> 07:05 PM) No the American version of them. You know wonderful people like Pat Robertson and Randall Terry. Altough i'm sure Johnny Walker has similar views on the subject. I've never heard of Randall Terry. I looked on wikipedia and stopped reading after like 5 paragraphs of his seemingly endless list of marriages and divorces. Edited June 1, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ May 31, 2009 -> 03:27 PM) Tiller the baby killer was killed himself today in Kansas. Karma is a b****. I would be interested to hear Sebelius's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 31, 2009 -> 06:40 PM) Impressive how tolerant of terrorism you are when it is done to someone who's politics you don't like. My heart is bleeding and I'm not even liberal. Save it for someone who cares. I didn't condone the murder, but what comes around goes around. His killer should be executed in my opinion. It was pre-meditated, no doubt. You mean manufactured domestic incident not terrorism, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ May 31, 2009 -> 07:05 PM) No the American version of them. You know wonderful people like Pat Robertson and Randall Terry. Altough i'm sure Johnny Walker has similar views on the subject. Blue label or red label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 10:56 AM) Blue label or red label? Blue label is ridiculously awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 07:54 AM) My heart is bleeding and I'm not even liberal. Save it for someone who cares. I didn't condone the murder, but what comes around goes around. His killer should be executed in my opinion. It was pre-meditated, no doubt. You mean manufactured domestic incident not terrorism, right? ter⋅ror⋅ism /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA –noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes. 2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. 3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government. ter·ror·ism (tr-rzm) n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons. Killing a man for political reasons is the definition of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 09:56 AM) Blue label or red label? Well which one is cheaper? I think there is a black label too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 11:54 AM) Well which one is cheaper? I think there is a black label too. Red, Black, Green, Gold, Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 10:54 AM) Well which one is cheaper? I think there is a black label too. Red is the cheapest. Blue is a few hundred dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 10:43 AM) Killing a man for political reasons is the definition of terrorism. So are a lot of union organization tactics, like what will happen if EFCA gets passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 09:54 AM) It was pre-meditated, no doubt. You mean manufactured domestic incident not terrorism, right? Imagine an Islamist fanatic had assassinated a pro-Israel rabbi in a synagogue, and had harassed synagogues for years, including one arrest for bomb materials in his car. Imagine if one of his associates had tried to kill the rabbi before. Would there be any question that this was Islamist terror? So why is this not Christianist terror? LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 12:38 PM) So are a lot of union organization tactics, like what will happen if EFCA gets passed. How will the EFCA be like that at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 10:58 AM) How will the EFCA be like that at all? If violence was applied as a method of coercion, I could certainly see it meeting that standard. Of course...since right now the only ones who can use violence and intimidation and threats are the ownership of a business trying to prevent unionization, that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 We need to open up opportunities for threats, intimidation and violence to all sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 09:43 AM) Killing a man for political reasons is the definition of terrorism. Thank you for the lesson. Don't know why you feel the need to try make me care about this low-life or the low-life who killed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 03:05 PM) Thank you for the lesson. Don't know why you feel the need to try make me care about this low-life or the low-life who killed him. Totally. We should even start killing every woman who steps out of an abortion clinic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 No, no. these are just man-caused disasters. there is no such thing as terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 02:11 PM) If violence was applied as a method of coercion, I could certainly see it meeting that standard. Of course...since right now the only ones who can use violence and intimidation and threats are the ownership of a business trying to prevent unionization, that's fine. Its funny you say that, because right in my home town there is a restarant site that has had to hire 24/7 security and have full time police presence to protect their workers from the attacks and vandalism of the union people protesting the building site. They view it as not only their right, but their obligation to break many laws repeatedly because the ownership group isn't using local union labor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Yeah let's please not start talking about ordinary criminal activity and call it terrorism... god I hate that. You don't just arbitrarily drop the "t-word" into something you don't like to make it worse, it's intellectually dishonest and a copout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 06:10 PM) Yeah let's please not start talking about ordinary criminal activity and call it terrorism... god I hate that. You don't just arbitrarily drop the "t-word" into something you don't like to make it worse, it's intellectually dishonest and a copout. Which do you consider Tiller's murder to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 09:11 PM) Which do you consider Tiller's murder to be? Domestic terrorism, that's pretty textbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KipWellsFan Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I think it's just karma when a hunter blows away another hunter by accident in a boreal forest. I'll now exit this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 08:10 PM) Yeah let's please not start talking about ordinary criminal activity and call it terrorism... god I hate that. You don't just arbitrarily drop the "t-word" into something you don't like to make it worse, it's intellectually dishonest and a copout. now i'm not as anti-union as 2k5 and believe they can serve a good purpose, but what he is describing is text book terrorism. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jun 1, 2009 -> 09:49 PM) now i'm not as anti-union as 2k5 and believe they can serve a good purpose, but what he is describing is text book terrorism. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism Bullying and intimidation to get something they want (a favorable outcome for themselves)? Just because there is violence and coercion involved doesn't make it "terrorism." It's a slippery slope, but it really isn't that slippery. If I call your house and say "you will let me have sex with your wife or I'll put you in the hospital" is that terrorism? No, it just makes me a douchebag who should go to jail, but not a domestic terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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