The Republican Thread

[kapkomet]

But in this case, he's right - the full quote is not anything like the out-of-context version.

 

I agree with that, but...

 

Neither are most of the quotes from Republicans posted around here that are almost always out of context, either.

[HuskyCaucasian]

I agree with that, but...

 

Neither are most of the quotes from Republicans posted around here that are almost always out of context, either.

I have, as of recent, tried to give quotes in full context.

[NorthSideSox72]

I agree with that, but...

 

Neither are most of the quotes from Republicans posted around here that are almost always out of context, either.

No argument from me, but it works both ways. To use a variant on Kaperbole - they both do it.

 

[southsider2k5]

The best part is following the link and reading all of the lobbyists who are running Obama's government.

 

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-m...-lobbyists-top-

 

NYT Lauds Obama Lobbyist Regulations, Ignores Numerous Lobbyists in Top Admin Posts

Photo of Lachlan Markay.

By Lachlan Markay (Bio | Archive)

Wed, 02/03/2010 - 13:33 ET

 

For much of the liberal media, President Obama operates in a vacuum. In their minds, if he says he will do something, he will most likely do it, even if he has a blatant record of not following through on similar promises.

 

Take Obama's lobbyist rhetoric, for instance. When the President claimed the White House has "excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs" he was telling the truth, sort of. He did not mean, and his staff has confirmed this, that they've excluded all lobbyists from the process, as, you know, a reasonable person would gather. He just meant that some lobbyists that applied for jobs in his administration didn't get them.

 

As it turns out, there are over 40 former lobbyists working in the White House or some branch of the executive (see chart below the fold).

 

The New York Times today ran a glowing story on President Obama's upcoming crackdown on lobbyists, never once mentioning his duplicitous statement during the State of the Union.

 

 

On the contrary, the Times lauded the proposed regulations--which may limit campaign contributions from lobbyists and the amount of time one can discuss issues with policymakers on behalf of an organization before being legally considered a lobbyist--saying they "spawned cheers among environmental and watchdog groups."

 

The Times said the new regulations could "revolutionize how lobbyists disclose their activities and contribute money to candidates for federal office." The article touted the closing of loopholes and the rise in disclosures of legal information.

 

But in discussing the President's plans, the Times did not once note that Obama has been less than completely honest about his past promises concerning lobbyists. Indeed, though the Times mentioned the State of the Union, and Obama's hints at these reforms during his speech, it did not mention the obviously misleading statement that the Obama administration has "excluded lobbyists".

 

As you can see in the chart above, Attorney General Eric Holder, FTC Chairman Jon Liebowitz, CIA Director Leon Panetta, and the Vice President's Chief of Staff Ron Klain are all former lobbyists. They all hold positions of power. Doesn't that merit a mention in a story on yet more proposed regulations?

 

As the Washington Examiner's Tim Carney notes, by Obama's logic "we can say George W. Bush avoided wars in the Mideast (he didn't invade Iran), and Bush's father refused to raise taxes (repeatedly, for months)."

 

Carney adds that the President's rhetoric tells us something important: "That President Obama would say, 'we've excluded lobbyists,' when he really meant, 'we've included them, too,' tells us something more surprising: That he's willing to mislead us, as long as he's left himself a semantic back door to escape through if he gets called out."

 

Apparently the Times is willing to take Obama at his word. So much for investigative, truth-to-power journalism.

 

Read more: http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-m...-#ixzz0eVTITevl

[Balta1701]

Former Senator Dan Coates will challenge Bayh.

[southsider2k5]

Former Senator Dan Coates will challenge Bayh.

 

As much as I hate Bayh, I don't see a chance of him losing.

[kapkomet]

As much as I hate Bayh, I don't see a chance of him losing.

 

 

Agreed. He's a little b****, who is well known. You know, that "fiscal conservative" that licks Harry's sack every time he needs it.

[NorthSideSox72]

The best part is following the link and reading all of the lobbyists who are running Obama's government.

 

http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-m...-lobbyists-top-

This is among my top frustrations with Obama. Not only did he promise to keep certain rules intact regarding lobbyists, which he then broke over and over again... his administration is still touting their supposed work in this area. No, dude, you either lied through your teeth during the campaign, or you later realized it was impossible and are now lying through your teeth to make it look better. Either way, B.S.

 

[StrangeSox]

Hey, they cracked down on lobbyists! They only let in all of the ones they really like.

[southsider2k5]

This is among my top frustrations with Obama. Not only did he promise to keep certain rules intact regarding lobbyists, which he then broke over and over again... his administration is still touting their supposed work in this area. No, dude, you either lied through your teeth during the campaign, or you later realized it was impossible and are now lying through your teeth to make it look better. Either way, B.S.

 

That was my entire problem with it in the first place. Why make a promise you know you can't keep, and even worse, why would people believe it?

[NorthSideSox72]

Not sure where to put this, since we don't have a "Tea Party" thread... Apparently, the Tea Party Nation is currently having its first "official" convention. The keynote speaker is Tom Tancredo. Here are some of this comments:

 

Tom Tancredo opened what's being billed as the first Tea Party Convention with a bang.

The former congressman from Colorado and 2008 Republican presidential candidate blasted President Obama, saying "people who could not even spell the word 'vote', or say it in English, put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House. His name is Barack Hussein Obama."

Tancredo made his comments as he gave the kickoff speech for the convention, which is being held at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel and Convention Center in Nashville.

Tancredo's speech received polite applause among the 600 attendees at the convention.

 

"So the race for America is on right now. The president and his left-wing allies in Congress are going to look at every opportunity to destroy the Constitution before we have a chance to save it. So put your running shoes on. Because I'll tell you, I've heard we need a revolution. My friends, we already had it. We lost. I mean, what happened to us in that last election was a revolution," said Tancredo, discussing the 2008 presidential contest.

 

Tancredo also slammed that election's Republican presidential nominee, saying "thank God John McCain lost the election."

The former congressman known for his strong opposition to illegal immigration also attacked "the cult of multiculturalism, aided by leftists, liberals all over who don't have the same idea about America as we do."

 

Tancredo ended his speech telling the crowd that "this is our country" and urged them "to take it back."

And, the reaction from the party organizers:

 

A spokesman for the Tea Party Nation, the group that organized the convention, said Tancredo's speech may provide some red meat but termed it problematic.

"It doesn't further the dialogue," said Mark Skoda, a businessman and founder of the Memphis Tea Party, who is also serving as spokesman for the convention.

 

Tancredo is too hateful even for that crowd. How did that guy ever get elected to anything?

 

And is this Tea Party movement, overall, going to be good or bad for the GOP?

 

[kapkomet]

Not sure where to put this, since we don't have a "Tea Party" thread... Apparently, the Tea Party Nation is currently having its first "official" convention. The keynote speaker is Tom Tancredo. Here are some of this comments:

 

 

And, the reaction from the party organizers:

 

 

 

Tancredo is too hateful even for that crowd. How did that guy ever get elected to anything?

 

And is this Tea Party movement, overall, going to be good or bad for the GOP?

 

 

If Glenn Beck "leads it", it won't be good. Let's put it that way.

[Cknolls]

So Obama calls Navy corpsmen "corpse men" twice yesterday.........Waiting for the backlash and joke making...Will there be any? Besides maybe SNL?

[Y2HH]

I'd like to know why I was nominated as a "GOP Poster" on this site...I'm not a republican. I hate them as much as I hate democrats. :/

[NorthSideSox72]

I'd like to know why I was nominated as a "GOP Poster" on this site...I'm not a republican. I hate them as much as I hate democrats. :/

That's not nearly as strange as Kap being a Dem in that poll.

 

He and I are in both. Last I looked, I had equal votes in each, which makes me happy.

 

[Y2HH]

That's not nearly as strange as Kap being a Dem in that poll.

 

He and I are in both. Last I looked, I had equal votes in each, which makes me happy.

 

So you can Kap are Reliberalcans?

[Cknolls]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-roo...andidacy-a-joke

 

BOO-HOO. Change your diaper, have a scotch, (that is what the Kennedy's like,right), Get your pacifier, and shut the f*** up.

[lostfan]

I'd like to know why I was nominated as a "GOP Poster" on this site...I'm not a republican. I hate them as much as I hate democrats. :/

For the same reason I am nominated as a Dem poster. I'm not really a Dem but I can understand why someone would put me in that category.

[lostfan]

Not sure where to put this, since we don't have a "Tea Party" thread... Apparently, the Tea Party Nation is currently having its first "official" convention. The keynote speaker is Tom Tancredo. Here are some of this comments:

 

 

And, the reaction from the party organizers:

 

 

 

Tancredo is too hateful even for that crowd. How did that guy ever get elected to anything?

 

And is this Tea Party movement, overall, going to be good or bad for the GOP?

It's kind of being infiltrated by the GOP actually. I wonder how many people actually notice this is happening? It's politically smart for the GOP though.

[mr_genius]

Tancredo is too hateful even for that crowd.

 

give it a rest already. jeez

Edited February 5, 2010 by mr_genius

[NorthSideSox72]

give it a rest already. jeez

um... give what a rest? Honestly, not trying to bait you, I don't get it.

 

[mr_genius]

um... give what a rest? Honestly, not trying to bait you, I don't get it.

 

i know you're not trying to bait me and i don't care about the 'tea party' convention. but this absurd notion that anyone that isn't an Obama fanatic is just a hater is blindly stupid.

 

if you don't want to be associated with such nonsense, perhaps you could re-read your post and modify.

Edited February 6, 2010 by mr_genius

[NorthSideSox72]

i know you're not trying to bait me and i don't care about the 'tea party' convention. but this absurd notion that anyone that isn't an Obama fanatic is just a hater is blindly stupid.

 

if you don't want to be associated with such nonsense, perhaps you could re-read your post and modify.

So... since I find Tom Tacredo to be a hate-mongering asshole (which I do), that means I only think Obama fanatics are not haters? Is there no middle ground between Tom Tancredo and Barack Obama? WTF?

 

[kapkomet]

So... since I find Tom Tacredo to be a hate-mongering asshole (which I do), that means I only think Obama fanatics are not haters? Is there no middle ground between Tom Tancredo and Barack Obama? WTF?

 

 

I see his point.

 

He's trying to say that you labeled the "Tea Party" folks right with Tancredo, and that's a pretty far stretch.

[mr_genius]

So... since I find Tom Tacredo to be a hate-mongering asshole (which I do), that means I only think Obama fanatics are not haters? Is there no middle ground between Tom Tancredo and Barack Obama? WTF?

 

 

I WILL QUOTE YOU EXACTLY

 

too hateful even for that crowd.

 

 

too hateful even for that crowd? talk about no middle ground. nice try to bulls*** your way out of it though.

Edited February 6, 2010 by mr_genius