The Republican Thread

[southsider2k5]

What has he done/said that is extremist? I did a quick search and all I can find is basically that he is form downstate and he wants to cut spending 10% across the board.

 

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_...r-scrutiny.html

[whitesoxfan101]

What has he done/said that is extremist? I did a quick search and all I can find is basically that he is form downstate and he wants to cut spending 10% across the board.

 

Yeah southsider's link gives you an idea of what he believes, if you go to his wikipedia page, it has more of his political beliefs (with links to support him saying what he believes too, so it's not just wikipedia lying to us.) Additionally, I have a friend that worked for him and she has all kinds of horror stories. I'm not sure I can really vote in good conscience for either gubernatorial candidate.

Edited March 8, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[ChiSox_Sonix]

We deserve it! Hopefully Illinois, California, New York and some others go bankrupt. That will be the only way we can affect the change needed to become fiscally sane.

 

New York needs a governor who doesnt care if he gets re-elected. The situation is so f***ed up right now that whoever is governor is gonna need to make unpopular choices. Of course having Patterson didn't help. I'm sure the guy tried but he was never qualified to be a governor.

[Balta1701]

New York needs a governor who doesnt care if he gets re-elected.

Spitzer?

[lostfan]

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_...r-scrutiny.html

"This gentleman committed murder in Sangamon County," Brady stated. Asked by reporters how he could say the man was a murderer when he had not been tried or convicted, Brady said, "Maybe the governor wants to wait until someone's convicted. I don't."

 

wtf? Does he even understand the basic concepts of court, criminal law, etc.? For the government to be able to say you're a murderer, you kind of have to be convicted of murder... that's the whole point of accusing someone of murder (This is the same bad logic for terrorist trials too btw, but I'm not going there anymore than I already have so I don't trip kap's bat signal)

[kapkomet]

wtf? Does he even understand the basic concepts of court, criminal law, etc.? For the government to be able to say you're a murderer, you kind of have to be convicted of murder... that's the whole point of accusing someone of murder (This is the same bad logic for terrorist trials too btw, but I'm not going there anymore than I already have so I don't trip kap's bat signal)

 

No it's not. There's no presumption of guilt. But okay, carry on.

[Cknolls]

wtf? Does he even understand the basic concepts of court, criminal law, etc.? For the government to be able to say you're a murderer, you kind of have to be convicted of murder... that's the whole point of accusing someone of murder (This is the same bad logic for terrorist trials too btw, but I'm not going there anymore than I already have so I don't trip kap's bat signal)

 

 

Like the current administration saying KSM will be found guilty before his trial?

[lostfan]

Like the current administration saying KSM will be found guilty before his trial?

Unless you (and Kap in the other thread) are finally agreeing with me that a terrorist needs to have a trial somehow, somewhere and be convicted before he can be actually punished like a terrorist then I fail to see your point.

[Cknolls]

Unless you (and Kap in the other thread) are finally agreeing with me that a terrorist needs to have a trial somehow, somewhere and be convicted before he can be actually punished like a terrorist then I fail to see your point.

 

 

How is Brady calling someone a murderer before a trial any different than this administration saying KSM will convicted before his trial? I don't think I have ever made a comment on this topic. My point was referencing the prejudgement by both parties in the stated cases.

[whitesoxfan101]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...linois_governor

 

I know this is basically irrelevant, but the fact that any poll anywhere at any time has Brady 10 up on Quinn shocks me. Even with the Illinois government in the mess it's in.

[lostfan]

How is Brady calling someone a murderer before a trial any different than this administration saying KSM will convicted before his trial? I don't think I have ever made a comment on this topic. My point was referencing the prejudgement by both parties in the stated cases.

I said that because I couldn't tell if you were actually asking my opinion or not, but for the record it's inappropriate for the preisdent to comment on court cases no matter what it is (although KSM is guilty and will be convicted if he goes to trial). But Brady just didn't sound like he knew what he was talking about.

[NorthSideSox72]

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_con...linois_governor

 

I know this is basically irrelevant, but the fact that any poll anywhere at any time has Brady 10 up on Quinn shocks me. Even with the Illinois government in the mess it's in.

Brady will fall back with Illinoisans see what he's stood for previously. I actually researched the GOP candidates because I voted in the GOP primary, and Brady scares me a bit. He's extreme by national standards, and more so for Illinois. Quinn would have to really, really, really step in the s*** between now and November to lose to Brady.

 

[southsider2k5]

Brady will fall back with Illinoisans see what he's stood for previously. I actually researched the GOP candidates because I voted in the GOP primary, and Brady scares me a bit. He's extreme by national standards, and more so for Illinois. Quinn would have to really, really, really step in the s*** between now and November to lose to Brady.

 

To be fair that is pretty much how Quinn has governed.

[NorthSideSox72]

To be fair that is pretty much how Quinn has governed.

You know, he's not been as bad as I thought he'd be. Of course, my expectations were very low.

 

I really with McKenna had won the GOP nod, he has the profile of a guy that could win the general in Illinois.

 

[southsider2k5]

You know, he's not been as bad as I thought he'd be. Of course, my expectations were very low.

 

I really with McKenna had won the GOP nod, he has the profile of a guy that could win the general in Illinois.

 

The guy totally lost his spine when it came to ethics reform and he hasn't done anything to fix the massive deficit. Those are pretty much the only two things he needs to work on, and he hasn't done a thing worthwhile on either one.

[NorthSideSox72]

The guy totally lost his spine when it came to ethics reform and he hasn't done anything to fix the massive deficit. Those are pretty much the only two things he needs to work on, and he hasn't done a thing worthwhile on either one.

The ethics reform was indeed a disaster. The deficit issue, he's actually pushing for more work in that direction now than the legislature or others are. Problem is, he didn't start doing that at first, he's just getting to it now.

 

[mr_genius]

Brady will fall back with Illinoisans see what he's stood for previously. I actually researched the GOP candidates because I voted in the GOP primary, and Brady scares me a bit. He's extreme by national standards, and more so for Illinois. Quinn would have to really, really, really step in the s*** between now and November to lose to Brady.

 

Oh, I think Quinn can lose. If it's a 'cut spending' vs 'more taxes' choice, 'cut spending' will likely win. I expect the election to be all about the economy and financial issues, not social issues.

[Cknolls]

http://republicanleader.house.gov/blog/?p=796

 

 

If true. Could get interesting.

[southsider2k5]

Oh, I think Quinn can lose. If it's a 'cut spending' vs 'more taxes' choice, 'cut spending' will likely win. I expect the election to be all about the economy and financial issues, not social issues.

 

Not to mention ethics is going to be a big issue for a lot of people. I think they are sick of their state being a joke on late night TV.

[NorthSideSox72]

Oh, I think Quinn can lose. If it's a 'cut spending' vs 'more taxes' choice, 'cut spending' will likely win. I expect the election to be all about the economy and financial issues, not social issues.

 

You are right about the economy and spending issues being the big issues, no doubt. But here's the thing - both candidates know that it will take both cuts and tax increases to get things whole in any reasonable period of time. Just cuts would either be devastating, or very slow to get us back to where we need to be.

 

That said, I think the right cuts, over a period of years, could do a lot of good.

 

Not to mention ethics is going to be a big issue for a lot of people. I think they are sick of their state being a joke on late night TV.

 

That too - so watch for anything in the way of dirt on either one, because if there is something there, we'll find out about it.

 

[whitesoxfan101]

http://republicanleader.house.gov/blog/?p=796

 

 

If true. Could get interesting.

 

The Slaughter Solution is a perfect name for it since that is what will happens to the Democrats in November if they go through with it.

 

Brady will fall back with Illinoisans see what he's stood for previously. I actually researched the GOP candidates because I voted in the GOP primary, and Brady scares me a bit. He's extreme by national standards, and more so for Illinois. Quinn would have to really, really, really step in the s*** between now and November to lose to Brady.

 

Brady scares me quite a bit, but so does Quinn. An awesome position to be in as a voter.

Edited March 10, 2010 by whitesoxfan101

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Actual passport application letter

 

Dear Mrs. Ms. or Sir:

 

I'm in the process of renewing my passport and still cannot believe this.

 

How is it that Radio Shack has my address and telephone number and knows that I bought a cable TV from them in 1987 (22 years ago), and yet, the Federal Government is still asking me where I was born and on what date.

 

For Christ sakes, do you guys do this by hand? Ever heard of computers?

 

My birth date you have in my social security file. It's on EVERY income tax form I've filed for the past 30 years. It's on my Medicare health insurance card and my driver's license, It's on the last eight damn passports I've had, It's on every stupid customs declaration form I've had to fill out before being allowed off the plane for the last 30 years. And it's on all those census forms that we have to do at election, 20 times.

 

Would somebody please take note, once and for all, that my mother's name is Maryanne, my father's name is Robert and I'm reasonably confident that neither name is likely to change between now and when I die.

 

Between you an' me, I've had enough of this bureaucratic bulls***!

 

You send the application to my house, then you ask me for my f____ing address.

 

What is going on?

You must have a gang of bureaucratic Neanderthal morons working there!

 

Look at my damn picture. Do I look like Bin Laden? And "No," I don't want to dig up Yasser Arafat, for s*** sakes. I just want to go and park my ass on a sandy beach.

 

And would someone please tell me, why would you give a damn whether I plan on visiting a farm in the next 15 days? If I ever got the urge to do something weird to a chicken or a goat, believe you me, I'd sure as hell not want to tell anyone!

 

Well, I have to go now because I have to go to the other end of the city and get another f___ingcopy of my birth certificate- to the tune of $100.

 

Would it be so difficult to have all the services in the same area so I could get a new passport the same day? Nooooo, that would require planning and organization. And it would be too logical for the f___ing government.

 

You'd rather have us running all over the place like chickens with our heads cut off. Then, we have to find some asshole to confirm that it's really me on the damn picture - you know, the one where we're not allowed to smile. Hey, you know why we can't smile? We're totally pissed off!

 

Signed

- An Irate Citizen.

 

P.S. Remember what I wrote about getting someone to confirm that the picture is me? Well, my family has been in the United States of America since 1776. I have served in the military for something over 35 years and have had security clearances up the ying yang. However, I have to get someone important to verify who I am - you know, someone like my doctor WHO WAS BORN AND RAISED IN INDIA!

 

And you ass holes want to run our health care system????

[southsider2k5]

Actual passport application letter

 

I know that it is probably fake, but it is still funny as hell.

[NorthSideSox72]

So, after the Dems proposed a bill to ban all earmarks to for-profit companies for a year... and the GOP ups the ante to propose banning ALL earmarks for a year.

 

This kind of one-up battle is one I actually like to see.

 

 

 

[southsider2k5]

Why pass healthcare? Because then more babies can be aborted and the government can save more money!

 

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M...mE3Y2ZlZDQ5NTY=

 

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”