Jenksismyhero Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 11:31 PM) Every teacher should make 6 figures, and college standards should be raised(require all teacher's to have a masters or more). You do that and you eliminate the people who fall into teaching because they didn't know what to do with their lives. We also need to eliminate the importance on standardized testing. It's an absolute sin how much instruction time I have to lose this year in order to prepare students for standardized test. If we stop teaching to the test and start teaching the students, and we get the best people in the teaching profession education will turn around in this country. More money isn't the problem here. Teachers make a good living, especially with benefits. And money isn't stopping good teachers from coming through the system because it's (1) still an insanely competitive industry and (2) there a ton of amazing teachers. The problem is our society and parenting specifically. We now EXPECT teachers to provide for our kids, when in reality teachers are meant to teach kids some things that parents don't have the time or expertise to teach them. If a kid f***s up in school, it's not the parents fault, it's the teachers and that's f***ed. Also, I agree with getting rid of standardized testing, so long as you meet me halfway and get rid of the tenure system. An out of touch, grumpy old teacher working the last 5 years to get that nice pension bump screws up the system. Same with the bureaucracy behind school boards. There's no reason for those boards to have as much power and authority as they do. Running a school district isn't rocket science, and it's ridiculous how much school administrators make and how much authority they have. What's wrong with having the principal be the main authority figure at every school? Our system is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 06:23 AM) Fox & Friends has three in one show Don't watch it, i'm just talking about the "face" of the networks. I don't really find O'Reilly as annoying from the partisan side as I do Hannity, Matthews and Maddow. There might be others, but again, I don't watch either network. SPEAKING OF liberal bias, anyone see the Drudge links to how MSNBC and NBC didn't air any minority speakers at the RNC? Ya think that's just coincidence, or does that feed the "GOP is only full of racist white people" stereotype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Why should we eliminate any ability to determine whether you are teaching your kids anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) Don't watch it, i'm just talking about the "face" of the networks. I don't really find O'Reilly as annoying from the partisan side as I do Hannity, Matthews and Maddow. There might be others, but again, I don't watch either network. SPEAKING OF liberal bias, anyone see the Drudge links to how MSNBC and NBC didn't air any minority speakers at the RNC? Ya think that's just coincidence, or does that feed the "GOP is only full of racist white people" stereotype? No one should ever see Drudge links because he's a terrible hack. Matthews is just a dumb sycophant. He got his tingly leg feelings for Bush, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 09:40 AM) http://www.ctunj.com/ What would you do without google? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 10:30 PM) Serious question for all you republicans. If you don't want to pay teachers a good salary(and you don't if you want to get rid of their unions) how the hell can your keynote speaker stand up there and talk about making sure the teachers are the best of the best and having standards and evaluations they must meet? Making sure the students come first etc etc. Here's how to fix education. Pay teachers what they're worth and the best people will become teachers. Anyone with any kind of talent is going into other professions because they wont make as much if they're a teacher. Make teaching a respectable profession and pay them like it and you will have good teachers. Edit: I'm a first year teacher who just graduated college and want to know the answer to this question. This is such a common mis-perception. Teachers get paid plenty and work 75% of the year. Maybe teachers should stop gaming the system, getting 15 master's degrees, and pricing themselves out of positions. Edited August 29, 2012 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 11:31 PM) Every teacher should make 6 figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 10:33 AM) What would you do without google? Lead a sad and empty life full of unanswered questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 10:00 AM) Why should we eliminate any ability to determine whether you are teaching your kids anything? Maybe not eliminate them totally, but there shouldn't be as much emphasis on the results. Plenty of studies have shown that some intelligent kids just suck at taking standardized tests. Studies have also shown that when teacher/school evaluations are based on test scores, the teachers/schools basically just teach students to pass the test. At that point no one is learning, they're learning how to take a test. I never understood why those evaluations were based on test results or graduation rates. Seems to me one teacher can watch another teacher and determine if he/she is good enough to keep their job. If you get stuck in a s***ty school district with some s***ty kids that's not really your fault as the teacher. Edited August 29, 2012 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (kev211 @ Aug 28, 2012 -> 11:31 PM) Every teacher should make 6 figures This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 11:00 AM) SPEAKING OF liberal bias, anyone see the Drudge links to how MSNBC and NBC didn't air any minority speakers at the RNC? Ya think that's just coincidence, or does that feed the "GOP is only full of racist white people" stereotype? Without looking, can you name any of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 10:40 AM) http://www.ctunj.com/ Immediately thought..."Chris Christie is taking the 'we need Jack Bauer for protection' slogan to the extreme". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Ann Romney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 12:03 PM) Without looking, can you name any of them? There is a media blackout (pun.intended) of those speakers. Of course he doesnt know who they are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 01:27 PM) There is a media blackout (pun.intended) of those speakers. Of course he doesnt know who they are And not because they're people no one has heard of anyway? One of them was a former Democratic Congressman, the other was a guy from Puerto Rico, and if I passed them in the hallway I wouldn't know who either of them was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 12:03 PM) Without looking, can you name any of them? Mia Love and Davis are the two I can recall, and I believe there were 2 or 3 others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) Mia Love and Davis are the two I can recall, and I believe there were 2 or 3 others. (Just for reference, this is also the first time I've ever heard the name "Mia Love". Just googled out of interest to see who he/she was.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 12:03 PM) Without looking, can you name any of them? Nope! Doesn't mean it's not shady media coverage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Outside of Chicago, who had heard of Barack Obama before his convention speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) Outside of Chicago, who had heard of Barack Obama before his convention speech? Obama was giving the keynote speech, and they've cut back on total coverage since 2004. Maybe it's a good thing that they didn't cover the Puerto Rican speech, though, since some in the crowd began chanting "USA! USA!" when she started speaking. edit: The chants were likely related to the Ron Paul supporters being pissed off about their votes not counting or something, but the optics are still terrible. Edited August 29, 2012 by StrangeSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) Obama was giving the keynote speech, and they've cut back on total coverage since 2004. Maybe it's a good thing that they didn't cover the Puerto Rican speech, though, since some in the crowd began chanting "USA! USA!" when she started speaking. Did they broadcast Chris Christie's speech last night? Because a keynote speech is usually broadcast. That's why you give that speaker the Keynote, because that's one of the speeches that typically gets covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well that was my point; Obama was given the keynote spot so of course it was going to be covered. If the GOP had given the keynote spot to Nikki Haley, it would have been covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 01:45 PM) Did they broadcast Chris Christie's speech last night? Because a keynote speech is usually broadcast. That's why you give that speaker the Keynote, because that's one of the speeches that typically gets covered. The broadcast networks covered the convention between 10 and 11PM yesterday, similar time frames will be covered today and tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 12:38 PM) Outside of Chicago, who had heard of Barack Obama before his convention speech? He gave the keynote speech. If you want to give that girl from Utah the keynote speech, go for it, shell get on tv. In my opinion the Democrats gave him that spot to help make sure he won that seat. You guys spend way to much time worrying about the media, who cares what they think? The real problem for the platform is their stance on most social issues. I think that in the future Republican's are going to be viewed as being on the wrong side of the fence. My thoughts are, no matter how right the South was on other issues, you just couldnt get on that bandwagon because of slavery. Social freedom trumps economy. (edit) I know this is the republican thread so delete this if you want, or I can put it in the democrat thread. Edited August 29, 2012 by Soxbadger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 29, 2012 -> 11:01 AM) Lead a sad and empty life full of unanswered questions. Lol. Nice!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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