StrangeSox Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 22, 2013 -> 02:41 PM) All the government can really do is end discrimination in government. Duke is unaware of EEO laws and the Civil Rights Act, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Aug 22, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Absolute disregard for a human being. What a waste of oxygen. Was it hot that night. Is that why they killed an 88 year old veteran. Beats working. Blame whitey. Wouldn't even be a trial if I found them. Slow and painful in a wood chipper sounds about right, one appendage at a time. Hey al and Jesse who can we shake down? f***ing silence from those black s***bags. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 22, 2013 -> 08:03 PM) Zimmerman was only arrested after months of public outcry and after the DA was replaced. The public demanded an investigation in the first place which the local law enforcement refused to do. This was also well after the President was asked about the case. So as soon as the police drop te charges here, you will have a point. That's what's so annoying about all of these "OMG! Why isn't this a national story!?" facebook posts. The people posting them obviously still do not get, at all, why there was so much frustration and anger at the start of the TM saga and why these other stories aren't similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-24...VU-episode.html Paula Deen SHOOTS Trayvon Martin' in new SVU that wraps both scandals into one controversial episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 22, 2013 -> 08:03 PM) Zimmerman was only arrested after months of public outcry and after the DA was replaced. The public demanded an investigation in the first place which the local law enforcement refused to do. This was also well after the President was asked about the case. So as soon as the police drop te charges here, you will have a point. Revisionist history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Aug 22, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Absolute disregard for a human being. What a waste of oxygen. Was it hot that night. Is that why they killed an 88 year old veteran. Beats working. Blame whitey. Wouldn't even be a trial if I found them. Slow and painful in a wood chipper sounds about right, one appendage at a time. Hey al and Jesse who can we shake down? f***ing silence from those black s***bags. They sent out a tweet. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 06:10 AM) That's what's so annoying about all of these "OMG! Why isn't this a national story!?" facebook posts. The people posting them obviously still do not get, at all, why there was so much frustration and anger at the start of the TM saga and why these other stories aren't similar. I get your point, and I generally agree that "omg where's the coverage? this is totally the same type of story!" complaint is wrong here. But the message being made is that if racism is the most terrible thing in the world, there should be the same sort of public outcry when a black person kills a white person based on nothing but race. There's no call for community meetings or a change of perception of black gang culture, etc. You complain that people need to stop being so racist when viewing black people with hoodies. Where's the call for black gang bangers to stop seeing whites as revenge bait? Yes, it's common sense that these things are wrong and it really should go without saying what a tragedy this is, but that doesn't mean Al and Jesse and the like can't stand on their pulpit and talk about how those sorts of acts actually hurt race relations in this country; how that sort of thinking and behavior is totally unacceptable because it fuels racism against all people. Instead they send out PR tweets that it's sad and then they move on to the next minority victim story. Can you honestly sit there and say that if white teens killed a young black athlete simply because he was black, there wouldn't be more of an outrage about the state of racism in this country? Edited August 23, 2013 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I bet Christopher Lane and Delbert Benton had wished they'd be a lot more careful around black teens the way Zimmerman had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 10:30 AM) I bet Christopher Lane and Delbert Benton had wished they'd be a lot more careful around black teens the way Zimmerman had. wow. most racist and bigoted thing I think I've ever read from you. Like that's just plain offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Reddy @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 11:51 AM) wow. most racist and bigoted thing I think I've ever read from you. Like that's just plain offensive oh i'm sure he's said worse. don't be so sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 wow. most racist and bigoted thing I think I've ever read from you. Like that's just plain offensive How on earth could it be wrong? They were brutally murdered for no reason. Its not f***ing racist its reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 10:34 AM) I get your point, and I generally agree that "omg where's the coverage? this is totally the same type of story!" complaint is wrong here. But the message being made is that if racism is the most terrible thing in the world, there should be the same sort of public outcry when a black person kills a white person based on nothing but race. There's no call for community meetings or a change of perception of black gang culture, etc. You complain that people need to stop being so racist when viewing black people with hoodies. Where's the call for black gang bangers to stop seeing whites as revenge bait? Events condemning violence in african american communities, whoever the target is, happen all the time. I could go into East Knoxville and probably find one a day if I wanted. Often more than one. Yes, it's common sense that these things are wrong and it really should go without saying what a tragedy this is, but that doesn't mean Al and Jesse and the like can't stand on their pulpit and talk about how those sorts of acts actually hurt race relations in this country; how that sort of thinking and behavior is totally unacceptable because it fuels racism against all people. Instead they send out PR tweets that it's sad and then they move on to the next minority victim story. Can you honestly sit there and say that if white teens killed a young black athlete simply because he was black, there wouldn't be more of an outrage about the state of racism in this country? Just since I checked, the FBI hate crime report filed 504 incidents of anti-white hate crimes in 2012. There were 4x that number of anti-black incidents. There were, however, only 4 murders classified as hate crimes. So yes, I think its fair to expect some degree of national coverage when there is a hate crime based murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 12:30 PM) How on earth could it be wrong? They were brutally murdered for no reason. Its not f***ing racist its reality. that all black teens are killers? really? that's reality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Can we just all agree that s***bags come in all colors? These clowns got arrested for their crime and will be prosecuted accordingly. Asshats are just complaining to complain now. This us against them mentality has been played out ad-nauseam. This has no comparison to the Zimmerman case. Why do people feel the need to compare s*** when they are simply not similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 that all black teens are killers? really? that's reality? Not all of them, but with all the animosity that's been stirred up by the president and media following this Zimmerman s*** and the well documented propensity black kids have for violent crime you'd rather be safe than sorry. It isn't racist to say what I'm saying here at all. I'm simply taking the facts (7% of the US population commits a little over 50% of the murders), linking them to a very high profile current event and pointing out a pretty evident conclusion to be drawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 12:50 PM) Not all of them, but with all the animosity that's been stirred up by the president and media following this Zimmerman s*** and the well documented propensity black kids have for violent crime you'd rather be safe than sorry. It isn't racist to say what I'm saying here at all. I'm simply taking the facts (7% of the US population commits a little over 50% of the murders), linking them to a very high profile current event and pointing out a pretty evident conclusion to be drawn. Duke "Racism doesn't exist" NukeEm, everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Duke "Racism doesn't exist" NukeEm, everybody! I didn't say doesn't exist, I said dismiss. Though it becomes pretty hard to keep dismissing it when our goddamn President split the country along a racial boundary then a wave of race-related killings started taking place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 02:20 PM) I didn't say doesn't exist, I said dismiss. Though it becomes pretty hard to keep dismissing it when our goddamn President split the country along a racial boundary then a wave of race-related killings started taking place. Really, you have evidence that a wave is taking place? Please supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 01:47 PM) Really, you have evidence that a wave is taking place? Please supply. http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/elde...iz/-/index.html There were also several "black teen mob beats up white couple" stories on the east coast during or shortly after the Zimmerman trial as well. A "wave" of violence is obviously nonsense, but lets not pretend there wasn't a backlash with the use of violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 01:20 PM) I didn't say doesn't exist, I said dismiss. Though it becomes pretty hard to keep dismissing it when our goddamn President split the country along a racial boundary then a wave of race-related killings started taking place. YOU ARE BEING RACIST WHEN YOU SAY BLACK KIDS HAVE AN INHERENT DISPOSITION TOWARDS VIOLENCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Really, you have evidence that a wave is taking place? Please supply. Oh so its just an everyday occurrence that a group of black teenagers randomly target a white person and beat them to death? I might have to give this whole racism thing a lot more thought if that's really happening. Edited August 23, 2013 by DukeNukeEm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 YOU ARE BEING RACIST WHEN YOU SAY BLACK KIDS HAVE AN INHERENT DISPOSITION TOWARDS VIOLENCE. But they do. I dont pretend to know why but its such a statistical landslide there's no other way to slice it. I honest to god dont value statistics much, but when an identifiable demographic of 7% of the population is committing ~50% of the killings the problem is existing in plain sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 05:37 PM) But they do. I dont pretend to know why but its such a statistical landslide there's no other way to slice it. I honest to god dont value statistics much, but when an identifiable demographic of 7% of the population is committing ~50% of the killings the problem is existing in plain sight. you just happen to think that based on the statistics, that black people just have... a.... genetic predisposition towards violence and crime? that is your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 you just happen to think that based on the statistics, that black people just have... a.... genetic predisposition towards violence and crime? that is your view? "I dont pretend to know why" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Aug 23, 2013 -> 08:21 PM) "I dont pretend to know why" well why don't I enlighten you. Black people are more likely to live in urban areas and they're more likely to be lower in socioeconomic status. They aren't violent, and they don't commit crimes simply because they're black - as you believe. They're statistically more violent because shockingly, the poorer people are, the more likely they are to commit crimes due to the desperation of their circumstances and poor parenting and education. Here's the kicker, and you're not going to believe this I know, but poor white people commit just as many crimes as poor black people. Mind blowing. Do some f***ing research before you spout off and show the world your ignorant bigotry. Edited August 24, 2013 by Reddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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