The Republican Thread

[Cknolls]

Anyone who believed "temporary" needs to be slapped.

 

 

Oh believe me, i am cynical enough to never believe a word anyone in this state mutters, be they R or D. And can they just once give a reason that does not reference eduacation spending. That argument is sooooo old and lame...

[Cknolls]

Illinois' budget is pretty thoroughly f***ed for a lot of reasons, so they sort of do need that revenue to survive if you don't want huge cuts in a lot of services.

 

 

Cut the f***ing workforce.. Want a license,,,better go a month early it will take a while....If the unions do not want to take a cut, gut the workers..At least it will be paid for.

[pettie4sox]

Cut the f***ing workforce.. Want a license,,,better go a month early it will take a while....If the unions do not want to take a cut, gut the workers..At least it will be paid for.

 

What unions are you willing to gut? Police, Fire, Teachers? If you start f***ing with the unions they'll f*** with you right back.

[Y2HH]

What unions are you willing to gut? Police, Fire, Teachers? If you start f***ing with the unions they'll f*** with you right back.

 

The problem is they aren't going to tax themselves out of the problem THEY and their cronies created.

 

That pension money didn't simply evaporate...it was stolen, and that's merely one piece of the budget pie they're missing. They've raised every tax, sticker fee, fine, and whatever else you could think of over the past decade and not a single additional cent was paid into that missing pension, and if anything, our crumbling infrastructure has never been worse.

 

All that increased tax money evaporated and continues to evaporate year after year, and nothing actually improves. If anything, it gets worse, causing them to ask for even more.

 

Quinn and the rest of them need to go in IL. I don't care who you replace them with at this point...they all need to get the f*** out.

[mr_genius]

it's ALWAYS labeled as a revenue generator for education. It is such a bold face lie that moronic citizens of Illinois continue to eat up.

 

anyone that believes what the Democrats are saying is a dumbass

[mr_genius]

Illinois' budget is pretty thoroughly f***ed for a lot of reasons, so they sort of do need that revenue to survive if you don't want huge cuts in a lot of services.

 

i'm fine with the cut.

[Jake]

Stop using a god damned flat tax, for christ's sake

[Jenksismyhero]

This sort of thing makes me support castration as a possible punishment:

 

http://gawker.com/du-pont-heir-sentenced-t...3-ye-1555200148

[Y2HH]

This sort of thing makes me support castration as a possible punishment:

 

http://gawker.com/du-pont-heir-sentenced-t...3-ye-1555200148

 

Stopped reading immediately after reading headline.

 

I cannot read that.

[EvilMonkey]

http://philberger.com/news/entry/tillis-be...error-and-fraud

 

Initial findings from the Board presented to the Joint Legislative Elections Oversight Committee today show:

765 voters with an exact match of first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in N.C. and the other state in the 2012 general election.

35,750 voters with the same first and last name and DOB were registered in N.C. and another state and voted in both states in the 2012 general election.

155,692 voters with the same first and last name, DOB and last four digits of SSN were registered in N.C. and another state – and the latest date of registration or voter activity did not take place within N.C.

 

Nothing to see here. This isn't the vote fraud you were looking for, move along...

[Jake]

http://hamptonroads.com/2014/04/nc-probes-...s-2012-election

 

Elections Director Kim Strach told state lawmakers at an oversight hearing Wednesday that her staff has identified 765 registered North Carolina voters whose first names, last names, birthdates and last four digits of their Social Security numbers appear to match information for voters in another state.

 

Each case will now require further investigation to determine whether voter fraud occurred.

 

"Could it be voter fraud? Sure, it could be voter fraud," Strach said. "Could it be an error on the part of a precinct person choosing the wrong person's name in the first place? It could be. We're looking at each of these individual cases."

 

...

 

Strach said there could also be about 50 people statewide who died before election day but were recorded as casting a ballot. In several past cases, instances of so-called zombie voters turned out to be the result of clerical errors.

 

...

 

However, other states using the cross-check system have yielded relatively few criminal prosecutions for voter fraud once the cases were thoroughly investigated.

 

Only 11 people were prosecuted on allegations of double-voting as a result of the 15 states that performed similar database checks following the 2010 elections, according to data compiled by elections officials in Kansas, where the cross-check program originated.

 

Bob Hall, director of the non-profit group Democracy North Carolina, cautioned officials not to jump to conclusions based on the preliminary database check.

 

"I know there is more than one Bob Hall with my birth date who lives among the 28 states researched," Hall said. "There may be cases of fraud, but the true scale and conspiracy involved need to be examined more closely before those with political agendas claim they've proven guilt beyond a reasonable doubt."

[StrangeSox]

Worth pointing out that voter I'd wouldn't have done a single thing for this sort of issue.

[StrangeSox]

A lot of this on that website appears to be typical ignorance or intentional fear mongering.

 

Dead people are not automatically and instantly removed from the rolls. Sometimes, people send in a ballot absentee or vote early but die before election day. None of that is fraud. Someone being registered in two states isn't voting fraud. Short of nationalizing the voting system and cross referencing it against some sort of death database, these sorts of things will happen and they won't actually matter. If I moved to Colorado tomorrow, didn't cancel my voter registration in Illinois and only voted in Colorado in the fall, nothing fraudulent has happened.

[cabiness42]

A lot of this on that website appears to be typical ignorance or intentional fear mongering.

 

Dead people are not automatically and instantly removed from the rolls. Sometimes, people send in a ballot absentee or vote early but die before election day. None of that is fraud. Someone being registered in two states isn't voting fraud. Short of nationalizing the voting system and cross referencing it against some sort of death database, these sorts of things will happen and they won't actually matter. If I moved to Colorado tomorrow, didn't cancel my voter registration in Illinois and only voted in Colorado in the fall, nothing fraudulent has happened.

 

I do think that the voting system needs to be nationalized, at least for Presidential election years. Require every state to issue ID cards/driver's licenses that store voter registration information in the magnetic strip. When you register to vote in a new state, the system automatically deletes your previous state's registration. When you die, your ID is swiped and the system automatically deletes your voter registration. When you show up to vote, your ID is swiped and the system will know whether or not you've already voted in another location. Either the Federal or state governments pay the cost for those who choose to get just an ID card and not a driver's license.

 

Note: This system would only track whether or not you've voted. There would be no connection to your actual ballot.

[Balta1701]

I do think that the voting system needs to be nationalized, at least for Presidential election years. Require every state to issue ID cards/driver's licenses that store voter registration information in the magnetic strip. When you register to vote in a new state, the system automatically deletes your previous state's registration. When you die, your ID is swiped and the system automatically deletes your voter registration. When you show up to vote, your ID is swiped and the system will know whether or not you've already voted in another location. Either the Federal or state governments pay the cost for those who choose to get just an ID card and not a driver's license.

 

Note: This system would only track whether or not you've voted. There would be no connection to your actual ballot.

The biggest problem with that concept...aside from the fact that it costs money, is that there is huge resistance in some very loud, angry circles to the idea of a national ID system.

[cabiness42]

The biggest problem with that concept...aside from the fact that it costs money, is that there is huge resistance in some very loud, angry circles to the idea of a national ID system.

 

There is already a national ID system--it's called the FBI (and likely the NSA) having access to all 51 state/district ID systems.

[EvilMonkey]

There is already a national ID system--it's called the FBI (and likely the NSA) having access to all 51 state/district ID systems.

And Social Security numbers. Try and get a loan or apply anywhere without it. Unless you are an illegal...

[Cknolls]

And Social Security numbers. Try and get a loan or apply anywhere without it. Unless you are an undocumented......

 

Fixed that . No such thing as illegal anymore....How insensitive..

 

[EvilMonkey]

Oh yeah. 'Undocumented', or whatever other bulls*** words they want to use to try and make themselves feel better.

[mr_genius]

First poll out since Illinois gov. primary. Rauner with a 14 point lead. He should be able to expand on that. If the GOP can't beat Quinn they are totally hopeless.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[StrangeSox]

don't see anything on RCP or google news?

[EvilMonkey]

First poll out since Illinois gov. primary. Rauner with a 14 point lead. He should be able to expand on that. If the GOP can't beat Quinn they are totally hopeless.

Wonder if Rauner has any court sealed documents that the Dems can 'arrange' to have unsealed. Or is that just reserved for Senatorial races...

[Jenksismyhero]

I honestly don't get what's "insensitive" about this:

 

http://www.twincities.com/education/ci_255...merican-indians

 

GRAND FORKS, N.D. -- The University of North Dakota's Gamma Phi Beta sorority is in hot water again for behavior that some deem insensitive to American Indians.

 

On Monday, a pink banner hung on the outside of the sorority house said, "You can take away our mascot but you can't take away our pride!" in celebration of the UND men's hockey team playing in the NCAA Frozen Four tournament.

 

The house is next door to the American Indian Student Services building, and Monday was the start of Time Out Week, a campus celebration of Indian culture and history.

 

Photos of the banner, which references the university's former Fighting Sioux nickname and logo, which were dropped after pressure from the NCAA, were shared via social media. It was taken down the same day.

 

 

Pride is a bad word?

Edited April 10, 2014 by Jenksismybitch

[mr_genius]

Wonder if Rauner has any court sealed documents that the Dems can 'arrange' to have unsealed. Or is that just reserved for Senatorial races...

 

i'm sure something along those lines will happen. it still won't save Quinn from losing.

[StrangeSox]

this is pretty terrible:

 

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014...rnment-run-amok

 

But that's not the weird part. The weird part is that in some cases, they're seizing money from the children of dead beneficiaries who were overpaid as long ago as the 60s and 70s. According to the Washington Post, "Social Security officials say that if children indirectly received assistance from public dollars paid to a parent, the children’s money can be taken, no matter how long ago any overpayment occurred."

 

But wait. Even that's not the weirdest part of the story. This is:

A few weeks ago, with no notice, the U.S. government intercepted Mary Grice’s tax refunds from both the IRS and the state of Maryland. Grice had no idea that Uncle Sam had seized her money until some days later, when she got a letter saying that her refund had gone to satisfy an old debt to the government — a very old debt.

 

When Grice was 4, back in 1960, her father died, leaving her mother with five children to raise. Until the kids turned 18, Sadie Grice got survivor benefits from Social Security to help feed and clothe them.

 

....Social Security officials told Grice that six people — Grice, her four siblings and her father’s first wife, whom she never knew — had received benefits under her father’s account. The government doesn’t look into exactly who got the overpayment; the policy is to seek compensation from the oldest sibling and work down through the family until the debt is paid

WTF? They just go after the eldest child first and work their way down? All because their mother was (allegedly) overpaid, which means a bunch of teenage kids benefited three decades ago? That's got to be the most cockamamie thing I've ever heard of.