The Republican Thread

[Y2HH]

Former "Chocolate city" mayor Ray Nagin going to prison.....

 

couldn't have happened to a bigger douchebag......have fun in prison........

 

He wants to build a chocolate Attica.

[EvilMonkey]

This story right here is what is wrong with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically. This guy should be ashamed of himself. Especially if he has a daughter. But instead, he probably is proud of himself for being a good little liberal warrior. These politics of personal destruction are going to kill us all. You don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, actions, etc., but this constant trying to get people fired or worse is just wrong. Imagine if a Democrat had said this? OMG!!! WAR ON WOMEN!!!! MYSIGNO-WHATEVER-IST!!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN AND LOSE HIS PENSION!!!! Yes, I think this guy probably should resign, but I am not going to start a petition or twitter war about it. If he has no problem trying to get porn about a 17 year old, who knows what he can do. At the very least, I hope his next opponents bring this up at every stop and he never makes it into office.

 

http://freebeacon.com/politics/left-wing-l...ollege-student/

[Jenksismyhero]

This story right here is what is wrong with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically. This guy should be ashamed of himself. Especially if he has a daughter. But instead, he probably is proud of himself for being a good little liberal warrior. These politics of personal destruction are going to kill us all. You don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, actions, etc., but this constant trying to get people fired or worse is just wrong. Imagine if a Democrat had said this? OMG!!! WAR ON WOMEN!!!! MYSIGNO-WHATEVER-IST!!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN AND LOSE HIS PENSION!!!! Yes, I think this guy probably should resign, but I am not going to start a petition or twitter war about it. If he has no problem trying to get porn about a 17 year old, who knows what he can do. At the very least, I hope his next opponents bring this up at every stop and he never makes it into office.

 

http://freebeacon.com/politics/left-wing-l...ollege-student/

 

If you believe her, some of the animals are sedated because she's traveling with a vet or park ranger. The animals that are actually dead were killed for population control purposes or she paid a pretty handsome price to do it (the money going back to preserving the conservation area).

 

edit: I read the story wrong. She does hunt them for sport too. On a related note, I remember a 60 minutes special on that "defense" of hunting and they looked at a booming business in Texas where people were paying tens of thousands of dollars to hunt exotic animals that were brought over from Africa. In Texas their numbers are thriving because of the value that is placed on their heads. In Africa they're dying off and/or non-existent now.

Edited July 10, 2014 by Jenksismybitch

[EvilMonkey]

If you believe her, the animals are sedated in the majority of those pictures because she's traveling with a vet or park ranger. The animals that are actually dead were killed for population control purposes or she paid a pretty handsome price to do it (the money going back to preserving the conservation area).

The specifics of her story don't even matter. it is the specifics of the responses to it. And I am not even talking about that cesspool known as twitter, where anyone with a remotely similar name has been getting death threats.

[Jenksismyhero]

The specifics of her story don't even matter. it is the specifics of the responses to it. And I am not even talking about that cesspool known as twitter, where anyone with a remotely similar name has been getting death threats.

 

Oh for sure, I agree with you.

[Jake]

This story right here is what is wrong with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically. This guy should be ashamed of himself. Especially if he has a daughter. But instead, he probably is proud of himself for being a good little liberal warrior. These politics of personal destruction are going to kill us all. You don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, actions, etc., but this constant trying to get people fired or worse is just wrong. Imagine if a Democrat had said this? OMG!!! WAR ON WOMEN!!!! MYSIGNO-WHATEVER-IST!!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN AND LOSE HIS PENSION!!!! Yes, I think this guy probably should resign, but I am not going to start a petition or twitter war about it. If he has no problem trying to get porn about a 17 year old, who knows what he can do. At the very least, I hope his next opponents bring this up at every stop and he never makes it into office.

 

http://freebeacon.com/politics/left-wing-l...ollege-student/

 

In what way is some weirdo trying to get someone to illegally distribute nude pictures/videos of a woman emblematic of liberal politics? Because he calls himself "left-wing?"

[EvilMonkey]

In what way is some weirdo trying to get someone to illegally distribute nude pictures/videos of a woman emblematic of liberal politics? Because he calls himself "left-wing?"

Because of the 'personal' nature of it. Unfortunately even some republicans get in on that now, although I think more from a 'they do it, we should too' aspect. Clinton's took this mode into turbo. Remember the 'bimbo squads'? Bill wasn't at fault because these bimbos fell on his dick, no. They must be destroyed! Just look at any conservative politician that even looks like they might be interested in running for higher office. The media starts digging then. How many days were spent in the media cycles on 'bridgegate'? more than Bengazi, for sure. Doesn't make either right. This guy is an asshole for trying to make this personal, to destroy her, to make her a 'target' as he says. Seriously dude, he didn't f*** your wife, kill your mom and piss on your dog. She legally hunted a lion. I get that you don't like that. I don't get the level of hatred towards her from him especially, as he wants to be a representative of a group of people in this country.

[StrangeSox]

Lol, yes, dumb vitriol is emblematic of liberal politics, never conservatives! Political talk radio doesn't exist, and neither do things like twitchy.

 

Benghazi #neverforget

Edited July 11, 2014 by StrangeSox

[mr_genius]

Lol, yes, dumb vitriol is emblematic of liberal politics, never conservatives! Political talk radio doesn't exist, and neither do things like twitchy.

 

Benghazi #neverforget

 

I have been meaning to listen to the Rush Limbaugh show more. Been too busy though

[EvilMonkey]

Lol, yes, dumb vitriol is emblematic of liberal politics, never conservatives! Political talk radio doesn't exist, and neither do things like twitchy.

 

Benghazi #neverforget

No, but apparently reading comprehension is, at least with you. I said personal vitriol. Listen to Rush and Ed schultz, see who makes more personal comments. Not even close. You can listen to Ed for one segment and he will personally insult any host of conservative figures a dozen times. Rush will criticize what they do, but the personal stuff is few and far between. I also did say that Republicans were getting into it lately as well, and that that wasn't right. Although not sure what your hangup is with twitchy. I have looked at it. Is it wrong when it publishes stupid tweets? It doesn't make them up, so not sure of your point there. All of twitter is a cesspool, easy to make fun of. That must be the easiest job.

 

edit: See, I did it here with my first line, snarked right back at ya. Too easy with you. I will withdraw that sentiment here, but leave it there since I am guilty of it as well. The sentiment still stands, this personalization of things has gone too far, not sure if it can ever be put back in the bottle.

Edited July 11, 2014 by Alpha Dog

[Jake]

I'm just not following. I could buy an argument that politics generally have gotten too invested in "personal vitriol," but I see no argument for that being something particular to liberal politics. I might say that conservative politics in the USA tends to want to have the appearance of issue-based criticism when it is in fact a veil for personal distaste/disgust/prejudice/vitriol/ideology/etc. Liberals certainly have no problem saying, "that guy right there is nuts"

[StrangeSox]

Interesting that you'd pick Rush Limbaugh given the obvious parallel to this idiot from VA. Rush called Sandra Fluke a slut and demanded that she provide him with sextapes because she was demanding that "we" pay for her slutty slut pills. Leaving aside the fact that Rush et. al. completely misrepresented the testimony Fluke actually gave, he clearly had no problem immediately attacking her personally and even demanding something very similar.

 

The other example you used was Christie's Bridgegate. On what level is that a personal attack? It's an inquiry into his abuse of the powers of his office. That would be like saying investigating Blago and covering his crimes were a personal attack. It just doesn't make any sense.

 

eta: as for twitchy, it's frequently directed to personal attacks at people the conservative movement doesn't like.

Edited July 11, 2014 by StrangeSox

[StrangeSox]

I'm just not following. I could buy an argument that politics generally have gotten too invested in "personal vitriol," but I see no argument for that being something particular to liberal politics. I might say that conservative politics in the USA tends to want to have the appearance of issue-based criticism when it is in fact a veil for personal distaste/disgust/prejudice/vitriol/ideology/etc. Liberals certainly have no problem saying, "that guy right there is nuts"

 

I don't think the idea that politics have gotten more personal really stands up, anyway. When was the last time members of government dueled each other or beat each other on the floor of Congress? Politics and campaigns were plenty personal even back at the founding of this country.

[EvilMonkey]

Interesting that you'd pick Rush Limbaugh given the obvious parallel to this idiot from VA. Rush called Sandra Fluke a slut and demanded that she provide him with sextapes because she was demanding that "we" pay for her slutty slut pills. Leaving aside the fact that Rush et. al. completely misrepresented the testimony Fluke actually gave, he clearly had no problem immediately attacking her personally and even demanding something very similar.

 

The other example you used was Christie's Bridgegate. On what level is that a personal attack? It's an inquiry into his abuse of the powers of his office. That would be like saying investigating Blago and covering his crimes were a personal attack. It just doesn't make any sense.

 

eta: as for twitchy, it's frequently directed to personal attacks at people the conservative movement doesn't like.

Again, I said who makes more, not who makes none. Seriously, I know it helps your talking points if you leave off things I said or change them, but nowhere did I say that Rush was a paragon of virtue and never says anything bad. However, compared to Ed, he is a saint.

[CrimsonWeltall]

This story right here is what is wrong with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically. This guy should be ashamed of himself. Especially if he has a daughter. But instead, he probably is proud of himself for being a good little liberal warrior. These politics of personal destruction are going to kill us all. You don't have to agree with someone's beliefs, actions, etc., but this constant trying to get people fired or worse is just wrong. Imagine if a Democrat had said this? OMG!!! WAR ON WOMEN!!!! MYSIGNO-WHATEVER-IST!!!! HE SHOULD RESIGN AND LOSE HIS PENSION!!!! Yes, I think this guy probably should resign, but I am not going to start a petition or twitter war about it. If he has no problem trying to get porn about a 17 year old, who knows what he can do. At the very least, I hope his next opponents bring this up at every stop and he never makes it into office.

 

http://freebeacon.com/politics/left-wing-l...ollege-student/

 

The problem with American politics in general and liberal politics specifically is a troll? He doesn't need to resign because not only is he not in office, he's not even a candidate.

[Balta1701]

I don't think the idea that politics have gotten more personal really stands up, anyway. When was the last time members of government dueled each other or beat each other on the floor of Congress? Politics and campaigns were plenty personal even back at the founding of this country.

Andrew Jackson's wife is a pipe smoking woman of ill repute.

[Jenksismyhero]

Here you go Alpha, another example:

 

http://guyism.com/sports/axelle-despiegela...l-facebook.html

 

People are too damned sensitive.

[mr_genius]

Here you go Alpha, another example:

 

http://guyism.com/sports/axelle-despiegela...l-facebook.html

 

People are too damned sensitive.

 

seems like it only took a couple decades of political correctness to make almost everyone a whiny cry baby.

[EvilMonkey]

Here you go Alpha, another example:

 

http://guyism.com/sports/axelle-despiegela...l-facebook.html

 

People are too damned sensitive.

Yeah, and I didn't mean to imply that it was limited to politicians, but all over the spectrum. Like the gaystapo going after anyone that opposes gay marriage with personal attacks, trying to get them fired and so on. There is just this need to 'destroy' your 'enemy' on a personal level instead of just winning the idea or issue.

[Balta1701]

Yeah, and I didn't mean to imply that it was limited to politicians, but all over the spectrum. Like the gaystapo going after anyone that opposes gay marriage with personal attacks, trying to get them fired and so on. There is just this need to 'destroy' your 'enemy' on a personal level instead of just winning the idea or issue.

Wow.

[Jake]

Re: "honeyshot girl," she said something stupid and her prospective employer decided that the only reason they hired her (her popularity) was no longer relevant. This is particularly true in Europe where folks are a bit less gung ho about the hunting (if I understand correctly, she was going to hook up with L'Oreal Belgium).

 

This is why most parents don't feel super comfortable with their children becoming public figures...because they're children. Public figures are accountable for what they say and do in a way that exceeds normal social relations. The people we should be mad at are the people who like to ogle at young women with the benefit of a long-range camera lens and the assholes who make it their mission to distribute these images and then try to crowdsource the ogled person's identity. What the hell kind of society does that?

 

I don't think the idea that politics have gotten more personal really stands up, anyway. When was the last time members of government dueled each other or beat each other on the floor of Congress? Politics and campaigns were plenty personal even back at the founding of this country.

 

There was also the "Don't vote for the homo, vote for Cuomo" campaign back in the 70s

 

 

[Jenksismyhero]

Re: "honeyshot girl," she said something stupid and her prospective employer decided that the only reason they hired her (her popularity) was no longer relevant. This is particularly true in Europe where folks are a bit less gung ho about the hunting (if I understand correctly, she was going to hook up with L'Oreal Belgium).

 

This is why most parents don't feel super comfortable with their children becoming public figures...because they're children. Public figures are accountable for what they say and do in a way that exceeds normal social relations. The people we should be mad at are the people who like to ogle at young women with the benefit of a long-range camera lens and the assholes who make it their mission to distribute these images and then try to crowdsource the ogled person's identity. What the hell kind of society does that?

 

 

 

There was also the "Don't vote for the homo, vote for Cuomo" campaign back in the 70s

 

Bulls***. She was hired to have her picture taken, not talk about the days current events. They FEARED the wrath of people who were "offended" and who showed faux-outrage over a dumb World Cup trash talk post.

 

And men. Men do that. Because the vast majority of men in this world are attracted to pretty women. That's why it's done, and that's why it's popular. And if you're a hetersexual man, you too have found it enjoyable to look at a pretty face in the crowd at some point in your life. It's the same reason TheBigLead starts of every day with a post featuring a pretty woman. It's enjoyable. I, for one, applaud them.

 

And hell, this chick got a modeling contract out of it. Katherine Webb got a career out of it. No one gets hurt, so what's the issue with it?

[StrangeSox]

Wow.

yeah that was pretty great

[EvilMonkey]

yeah that was pretty great

Wasn't it? All those people filled with love and compassion who tried to help the Mozilla guy find new employment because of a private donation he made years before? Yeah, nothing personal there.

[Feeky Magee]

Yeah, and I didn't mean to imply that it was limited to politicians, but all over the spectrum. Like the gaystapo going after anyone that opposes gay marriage with personal attacks, trying to get them fired and so on. There is just this need to 'destroy' your 'enemy' on a personal level instead of just winning the idea or issue.

Dude are you a parody