LDF Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) He is LITERALLY one-third of the branches of the federal government. If I'm remembering my civics right, that means that this one guy has always had the power to veto legislation passed by the majority of 535 people in the chamber below him. At what point in our nation's history did the Office of the Presidency NOT dictate policy at every level of the federal government? and while you ae bringing up some nice info, the president does not dictate policy... he recommends it and congress passes on it.. yeah the president can veto it and then it goes back to congress. check and balance process. but the main point is, the person who is president does not need to know everything b/c they will not know it. the president have people to will brief the president on anything and everything..... letting him to become the best inform person on that subject. as i said it is virtually impossible to know all things and how it will affect the county. now the president may have some pet subject that the president may want to take priority .... that is another subject. now going back to the org statement that started all this. the gambling question or was it the fantasy football question was a bad one. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 08:54 PM) i am with you on most, except for this post. do you really think the president has more power???? i think it is the opposite and congress, if united can lock down the government. Yes, absolutely. You have one person versus hundreds that require a shutdown. And he has the power to tell all of his agencies to stop providing services, stop enforcing laws, stop investigating crimes, stop prosecuting cases, etc. etc. Oh and he commands the entire US defense system. Congress can cut funding, so in an indirect way they can do the same in theory, but it's much harder to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 09:02 PM) and while you ae bringing up some nice info, the president does not dictate policy... he recommends it and congress passes on it.. yeah the president can veto it and then it goes back to congress. check and balance process. but the main point is, the person who is president does not need to know everything b/c they will not know it. the president have people to will brief the president on anything and everything..... letting him to become the best inform person on that subject. as i said it is virtually impossible to know all things and how it will affect the county. now the president may have some pet subject that the president may want to take priority .... that is another subject. now going back to the org statement that started all this. the gambling question or was it the fantasy football question was a bad one. IMHO Poll 100 people right now who their state senators and house reps are and i'm guessing 60-70% wouldn't be right. Poll the same people who the President is and i'm sure it's 95%. The President is the man face of the US government these days. He can sway popular opinion (to the extent it can be) more than any other person. Edited October 30, 2015 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) Yes, absolutely. You have one person versus hundreds that require a shutdown. And he has the power to tell all of his agencies to stop providing services, stop enforcing laws, stop investigating crimes, stop prosecuting cases, etc. etc. Oh and he commands the entire US defense system. Congress can cut funding, so in an indirect way they can do the same in theory, but it's much harder to do. Most most of the Supreme Court basically has lifetime tenure. The bottom 1/3rd or 25% of presidents don't compare to Earl Warren or Oliver Wendell Holmes in terms of impact. Or the deciding vote on Roe v. Wade or Gore v. Bush. Edited October 30, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 09:13 AM) Most most of the Supreme Court basically has lifetime tenure. The bottom 1/3rd or 25% of presidents don't compare to Earl Warren or Oliver Wendell Holmes. They're pretty influential, no doubt about that, but again you're talking one of nine. To be really influential you have to have the backing over others. The president can make unilateral decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:16 AM) They're pretty influential, no doubt about that, but again you're talking one of nine. To be really influential you have to have the backing over others. The president can make unilateral decisions. You can make that argument with the Rehnquist court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 03:10 PM) Yes, absolutely. You have one person versus hundreds that require a shutdown. And he has the power to tell all of his agencies to stop providing services, stop enforcing laws, stop investigating crimes, stop prosecuting cases, etc. etc. Oh and he commands the entire US defense system. Congress can cut funding, so in an indirect way they can do the same in theory, but it's much harder to do. on what you wrote including the bold, it still takes the act of congress to approve the move. also congress will need to overcome the president ... but that will need a % of vote to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) on what you wrote including the bold, it still takes the act of congress to approve the move. also congress will need to overcome the president ... but that will need a % of vote to do that. I think the last 15 years has shown that's pretty debatable. An all out war? Yes. Military action generally? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) I think the last 15 years has shown that's pretty debatable. An all out war? Yes. Military action generally? No. fair.... good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) So, boots on the ground after all, eh? edit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix...ssion-in-syria/ Edited October 30, 2015 by Jenksismybitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Bush's campaign is doomed. I'm really starting to like the guy. That has to be the kiss of death in a Republican primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) Forgive my passion. But even if you are not Republican you should probably be incensed over this story. The women on that ridiculous and popular TV show, The View, said Florina looked "demented" during the debate. They meant her LOOKS. Now these are the same women (Whoopi and Joy Behar aren't exactly easy on the eyes themselves) who blasted Trump for criticizing Florina's looks. WTF has come of this country? We are all so egotistical it's OK for us to say somebody looks demented -- the other host said her face should be used as a Haloween mask -- but not OK for Trump to do it?? I think it's disgusting that those witches on the View did that to Florina and I'm not even a Florina supporter. What about their beloved Hilly's looks for gosh sakes?? If you want to rate people's looks, it's not like Hilly comes in looking like some gorgeous model. Florina is going on the View Friday to confront the ladies of the View, who are so (w)itchy they will probably stand by their comments on how they think she is ugly. How rude. I mean Whoopi said to stand by the word "demented" so how's she going to back off this one? Obviously Whoop-ster thinks Florina is hideous looking. How she gonna get out of this one?? "Uh, Carly, I'm sorry, but the way you smiled during the debate, you just looked scary bad. Like demented." So in conclusion ... Florina ugly; Hillary attractive in a matronly type way (according to the View) Edited November 3, 2015 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Ugh, Greg. You should have just left it at "making fun of her looks is rude" instead of basically saying "see she is ugly too, we should all acknowledge that she is also ugly" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 05:37 AM) Ugh, Greg. You should have just left it at "making fun of her looks is rude" instead of basically saying "see she is ugly too, we should all acknowledge that she is also ugly" I actually have no opinion on her looks or Hilly's looks. I've not studied their facial features much. I personally think Florina is a failed CEO and seems like a person HR departments would love (corportate tool type). And everybody on here knows I despise Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 11:26 PM) I actually have no opinion on her looks or Hilly's looks. I've not studied their facial features much. I personally think Florina is a failed CEO and seems like a person HR departments would love (corportate tool type). And everybody on here knows I despise Hillary. What about their beloved Hilly's looks for gosh sakes?? If you want to rate people's looks, it's not like Hilly comes in looking like some gorgeous model Like i said, you are fine with just keeping it at "ripping someone for their looks is rude" and that's it. Because it is rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 11:52 AM) Like i said, you are fine with just keeping it at "ripping someone for their looks is rude" and that's it. Because it is rude I'm pretty slow at times with a low IQ but I don't understand the point you are trying to make. This is about Whoopi and Joy Behar blasting Florina's looks (demented?) when they are not exactly perfect 10s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) I'm pretty slow at times with a low IQ but I don't understand the point you are trying to make. This is about Whoopi and Joy Behar blasting Florina's looks (demented?) when they are not exactly perfect 10s. Troll. Definitely troll. No longer a question in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 01:49 PM) I'm pretty slow at times with a low IQ but I don't understand the point you are trying to make. This is about Whoopi and Joy Behar blasting Florina's looks (demented?) when they are not exactly perfect 10s. And you are doing the same thing, by comparing to Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Actually demented is more about mental state of mind/bearing than physical appearance. Questioning her stability...and poise, not her worthiness to be selected for America's Next Top Model. The funny thing to me is that any woman who's even halfway or moderately attractive like Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter suddenly finds herelf a superstar in the GOP ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 11:40 PM) Actually demented is more about mental state of mind/bearing than physical appearance. Questioning her stability...and poise, not her worthiness to be selected for America's Next Top Model. The funny thing to me is that any woman who's even halfway or moderately attractive like Sarah Palin or Ann Coulter suddenly finds herelf a superstar in the GOP ranks. No, they made it clear they were referring to her face. The Halloween mask comment as well. Whoopi made it clear they meant she is hideous looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 03:36 AM) No, they made it clear they were referring to her face. The Halloween mask comment as well. Whoopi made it clear they meant she is hideous looking. i know it is a women on women comment. but look at the men running and in the past, like they were what, great beauties???? this is really shallow of them, i really don't care it the candidate, whomever it is, looks like the elephant man, if this person can run the country, lead this nation toward a better 4 yrs, who the f*** cares on what they look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 05:44 AM) i know it is a women on women comment. but look at the men running and in the past, like they were what, great beauties???? this is really shallow of them, i really don't care it the candidate, whomever it is, looks like the elephant man, if this person can run the country, lead this nation toward a better 4 yrs, who the f*** cares on what they look like. I agree it's crazy. I mean how dare those ladies on the View rip Florina's face like that. It's ridiculous. Like I said Whoopi and Joy are no beauty queens. They better apologize Friday. Nah they won't. BTW I love Dana Carvey's political humor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 01:36 AM) I mean how dare those ladies on the View rip Florina's face like that. It's ridiculous. QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 01:36 AM) Like I said Whoopi and Joy are no beauty queens. They better apologize Friday. These aren't even different posts. It's the same post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) It seems like every day some media type is trying to get "the big one" on Carson. They keep bringing up things he's said and appear to be trying to get him to lose favor with voters drastically. How come Obama was basically off limits from this kind of stuff. It was all kind, gentle coverage of Obama during his eight years. Hillary's getting the kid gloves, too. In this world of cliches and 20-second max soundbites, the main story on Hillary is ... "Big Bad Republicans Continue to Attack Hillary Who Did Nothing Wrong with Her Emails and Did Nothing Wrong Regarding Benghazi" Meanwhile, they are trying to make Carson look like a Loonie-Tune (despite him being an incredible surgeon and brilliant man). The overwhelming vibe given from media's coverage of Ben Carson is that he's a man with weird thoughts and ideas; Meanwhile they are trying to make Trump also look like a Loonie-Tune and a sexist and an all around bad guy; and finally they scoff at the rest of the Republican candidates as merely being unworthy of high office. What's with the media going after Carson?? Do they not like his voice or something? His voice is kinda weird sounding. Considering his resume I do not think Carson is some scary-thinking bizarre cat, which the media is kinda wanting us to believe! They certainly aren't giving us the picture of Carson as a brilliant surgeon; no way is that the media's portrayal of Ben. Edited November 6, 2015 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Carson is pretty crazy, though. Being a skilled surgeon doesn't preclude you from believing all sorts of crazy things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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