EvilMonkey Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 03:16 PM) Forgive my ignorance here, but, what exactly is wrong with this? I mean, the whole federal limits on campaign contributions thing is ignored anyway - look at how much some poeple have given to each candidate. Is this a 529 thing? Isn't ACORn supposed to be a non-partisan organization? And Obama and Biden have both come out and said that they have no ties to ACORN. I guess they just give their donor list to anyone who asks, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 04:44 PM) Isn't ACORn supposed to be a non-partisan organization? And Obama and Biden have both come out and said that they have no ties to ACORN. I guess they just give their donor list to anyone who asks, right? The degree to which Fundraiser lists are shared and sold would stun you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 03:44 PM) Isn't ACORn supposed to be a non-partisan organization? And Obama and Biden have both come out and said that they have no ties to ACORN. I guess they just give their donor list to anyone who asks, right? Hm. Well, they don't have to be, do they? I personally think that people should only be able to register to vote at a government agency, but, that's just me. With the law as it stands, there is nothing saying a biased organization can't go collect voter registrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 29, 2008 -> 04:00 PM) Hm. Well, they don't have to be, do they? I personally think that people should only be able to register to vote at a government agency, but, that's just me. With the law as it stands, there is nothing saying a biased organization can't go collect voter registrations. But it sure is shady when that biased organization gets federal funds to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nligvgv3Rfw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 http://conservativebadlands.blogspot.com/2...simple-way.html "Today on my way to lunch, I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed." "Once in the resaurant, my server had on an 'Obama '08' tie, and again I laughed as he had given away his political preference. Can you imagine the coincidence?" "Too funny!" "When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistibute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need - the homeless guy. Boy was he upset!" "I can imagine. I would be too." "So, I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside. I told him I thought he could use it more than my server. He was pretty excited and thanked me." "Dude, did you really do that? "Yeah, you bet! So, at the end of my rather unscientific redistibution experiment, I realized that the homeless dude was grateful for the money he didn't earn, but the waiter guy was REALLY upset that I gave his money away that he earned. But I thought the homeless dude needed it way more than the waiter." In the end, redistribution of wealth is great for some, but a joke to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 This was also a favorite of mine... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9VGZjBQHr0s/SQcI...-h/image003.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 QUOTE (Controlled Chaos @ Oct 23, 2008 -> 11:24 AM) Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed. Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference--just imagine the coincidence. When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight. I went outside, gave the homeless guy $5 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful. At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more. I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Decoding Barack Neal Boortz Monday, October 27, 2008 The election is now eight days way. If you've made up your mind for Obama; or if you're trying to noodle through some of the things he's been saying on the campaign trail, this should help. And if you’re voting for Obama, clearly you need help. I've taken four statements that The Chosen One repeats at almost every campaign rally. Now these statements are pretty powerful ... if unchallenged ... and we know that the MoveOn Media isn't exactly what we would call "eager" to challenge God's Candidate on any of these issues. So, here we go again .. this simple talk show host (right wing, hate-filled shock jock, I believe they call us) is going to use some basic logic and the ability to actually read newspapers to catch you up to speed on just what the Big BO is saying here. Now if you're educated in our wonderful government schools you may find this challenging. Stick with it. In spite of what the government has done to you, you can generate some new brain cells that will help you deal with this stuff. It would also help if you got your campaign news from somewhere other than Saturday Night Live. Here we go, front and center with Barack Obama! "I'm going to cut taxes for 95% of Americans." This Obama promise has already been pretty much debunked in the media. The problem is that it hasn't been debunked on the Black Entertainment Television network or on Inside Edition or Entertainment Tonight. Until these television outlets bring forth the facts most of Obama's supporters won't know the truth. And what is the truth? The truth is that almost one-half of working Americans eligible to vote don't pay federal income taxes in the first place. This brings forth the interesting question of how do you cut taxes for people who don't pay taxes. What Obama has done here is change the definition of "tax cut." It used to be that when the government walked up to someone who had just received their paycheck and said 'Gimme some of that," and the government then gave that money to someone else who had not earned it; that was called welfare. Now apparently you can't get welfare if you're working ... so we'll just call it income seizure and redistribution. Under Obama a couple earning, for example, $70,000 and owing no federal income taxes at all will get several checks from Obama's federal taxpayer-funded treasury. These checks will be called "tax cuts." So .. for those who don't pay taxes, here are some of the "tax cut" checks you’ll be getting from The Chosen One. I'm taking some literary license here and replacing the words "tax credit" with the word "payment." That literary flourish brings us much closer to the truth. Here are your goodies; come and get ‘em: A $500 "make work pay" payment. A $4,000 payment for college tuition. A payment equal to 10% of your mortgage interest A payment equal to 50% of the amount of money you put into a savings account up to $1000. A payment equal to 50% of the amount of money you pay for child care up to $6000. A payment of up to $7,000 if you purchase a "clean car." By that Obama means an environmentally correct car. Plus ... an expansion of the earned income tax credit .. increased payments on top of your earnings if the government doesn't feel you are earning enough. There you go ... Obama's "tax cuts." Sounds pretty good, doesn't it. Well, I guess it is, if you're not too successful it IS pretty good. Remember, the harder you work the lower these payments get. Barack Obama's tax plans are all about punishing success and rewarding failure. He understands that if it weren't for failures, Democrats would be scrounging in the alleys for votes. It's rather ironic that the Obama campaign will go to the mat with critics over the definition of "socialist," but feel absolutely free to change the definition of "tax cut" to anything that suits them. "95% of small businesses won't pay any more taxes." Once people started hearing that the very people that Obama wanted to raise taxes on are the people we depend on for jobs, The BO campaign had to come up with a line to neuter the "small business" argument. Barack Obama knows he's in trouble if the voters find out that 70% of all extant jobs are in the small business sector and that 80% of all new jobs are coming from small businesses. So, Obama comes up with this line about 95% of small businesses not paying any more taxes under his plan. Here's the trick. Let me illustrate reality with a simple comparison. Let's say that we have 1000 small businesses. About 950 of them, that would be 95%, employ one or two people each for a total employment figure of 1,200. Now let's assume that the other 50 businesses employ anywhere from 20 people to hundreds of people for a total of about 250,000 workers. If someone comes along and says 95% of small businesses won't be affected by his tax increases, how do you feel? You know that the tax increase is going to slam those businesses that employ 250,000 workers, while leaving the 95% of businesses that employ just 1,200 people alone. Quite a deal, huh. Aren't you impressed? The point here is that it's not the percentage of small businesses your tax increases hit, it's the percentage of small business employees. Unfortunately that nuance is lost on the majority of voters educated by the government, and the MoveOn Media sure isn’t going to take the time to explain it to you. "John McCain voted with George Bush 90% of the time." First of all, George Bush doesn't cast votes in the U.S. Senate, though McCain and Obama do. The best way to judge how they vote is to see how often they vote with their respective parties. You might want to get those nuisance resolutions proclaiming the need for a colonoscopy every once in a while out of the way. That would leave some key votes for you to consider. The Congressional Research Service did the work. They looked at votes for Obama and McCain on KEY issues. The results? Barack Obama voted with Democrats 97% of the time. John McCain voted with the Republicans 79% of the time. Now .. just sit on your hands and wait for the MoveOn Media to report that one. Sit on your hands, but for God's sake don't hold your breath. "John McCain wants to tax your health insurance benefits." He's right, but here's the rest of the story. Let's say that you and your brother work for different companies. Your company provides you with health insurance. Your brother has to buy his own. Your boss gets a tax deduction for the cost of your health insurance. Your brother does not get a tax deduction for the cost of his health insurance. In effect, he is paying much more than you are for the same policy. Not fair. There's a reason for this. For decades government has wanted to coerce you into getting insurance through your employer. This gets you acclimated to the idea of someone else -- someone besides yourself -- is responsible for your health care. The end result is that the government, in effect, subsidizes the cost of your health insurance, but not your brother's. Now McCain has this idea of a $5,000 tax credit for every family to pay for their own health insurance policy. To make this work everyone has to start from the same starting line. Remember, you're subsidized, your brother is not. So McCain takes away the tax deduction your employer gets for your health insurance. There ... now we're all of equal standing when the $5,000 tax credits start coming out. Now that wasn't too hard, was it? Now .. just in case you've read something here, heard something on my show or gathered some information from some other source that might cause you to switch your vote from Obama to McCain ... just remember. You're a racist. There is only one reason NOT to vote for Barack Obama, and that's if you're a robe-wearing, cross-burning Klansman. Just so you know. You’re going to have that on your conscience. Copyright © 2008 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Oct 27, 2008 -> 04:36 PM) Do people really think the numbers on his budget will add up? He is going to raise everyones taxes on one thing or another and to be honest, why should people who make over 250k have to pay even more now? The wealthy already pay the lions share of taxes and now they should have to be punished for being successful? Its socialism anyway you slice it and people might not worry about it now because most of us dont make that kind of money Im assuming but just wait until this kind of stuff starts to trickle down and it does effect you, which will happen. Because citizenship has its responsibilities. Why do you think the middle class did so well in the 40s, 50s & 60s - because the upper tax rate was 91% in the 50s, and when Kennedy lowered it to 71% during his term, he closed all the loopholes. It was only when Reagan lowered it to 36% that the middle class started to fall apart and now we live in a time where the income disparity is the worst it's ever been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 He had me at the waving wheat.” LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 http://www.recordonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...9/NEWS/81029041 Vote fraud, and at least on Democrat who decided enough was enough and fired his staffer respopnsible for it. Good for you Mr. Hall. I know you are running for reelection, but it is still the right thing to do. Now, if they can just get jail time for that ex-staffer....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 Oh man. Obama can't even get his black sitcom references straight! Even I knew this was wrong the moment I heard it. I used to love Sanford & Son. Should have been Elizabeth, not Wheezy. I wonder if he realized that both Fred Sanford and George jefferson were small business owners? http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=e46U6USU2G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 01:44 PM) Oh man. Obama can't even get his black sitcom references straight! Even I knew this was wrong the moment I heard it. I used to love Sanford & Son. Should have been Elizabeth, not Wheezy. I wonder if he realized that both Fred Sanford and George jefferson were small business owners? http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=e46U6USU2G Another reason not to vote for him Lack of knowledge about 1970s sitcoms. Damn, he was about 10 when those shows were on. Now McCain could probably school us on any of the old B&W shows. I see him as a huge Dragnet fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 11:47 AM) Another reason not to vote for him Lack of knowledge about 1970s sitcoms. Damn, he was about 10 when those shows were on. Now McCain could probably school us on any of the old B&W shows. I see him as a huge Dragnet fan. I'll bet Bill Ayers would have gotten them right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 01:55 PM) I'll bet Bill Ayers would have gotten them right. Lieberman had to explain them to McCain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 01:57 PM) Lieberman had to explain them to McCain McCain only remembers Benson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 11:30 AM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 08:55 AM) first post in the thread! Repubs rule. while you scream that repubs rule,everyone else is trying to get off the sinking ship!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 11:44 AM) while you scream that repubs rule,everyone else is trying to get off the sinking ship!! Please read, agree to and post in the MUST READ thread before posting in the Buster in the future. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 QUOTE (Texsox @ Oct 30, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) Another reason not to vote for him Lack of knowledge about 1970s sitcoms. Damn, he was about 10 when those shows were on. Now McCain could probably school us on any of the old B&W shows. I see him as a huge Dragnet fan. McCain goes back to vaudeville and to the silent movies,lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Oct 31, 2008 -> 01:47 PM) McCain goes back to vaudeville and to the silent movies,lol I think someone is missing the point of having separate republican and democrat threads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I'm not certain if Balta has posted this or not 'Twas the night before elections And all through the town Tempers were flaring Emotions all up and down! I, in my bathrobe With a cat in my lap Had cut off the TV Tired of political crap. When all of a sudden There arose such a noise I peered out of my window Saw Obama and his boys They had come for my wallet They wanted my pay To give to the others Who had not worked a day! He snatched up my money And quick as a wink Jumped back on his bandwagon As I gagged from the stink He then rallied his henchmen Who were pulling his cart I could tell they were out To tear my country apart! ' On Fannie, on Freddie, On Biden and Ayers! On Acorn, On Pelosi' He screamed at the pairs! They took off for his cause And as he flew out of sight I heard him laugh at the nation Who wouldn't stand up and fight! So I leave you to think On this one final note- IF YOU DON'T WANT SOCIALISM GET OUT AND VOTE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Obama calls people who don't want to pay more in taxes 'selfish', and equates voluntarily giving part of his pbj sandwich in 6th grade to forcibly having to pay more taxes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V3FNh3mAuY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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