Texsox Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jan 15, 2009 -> 11:33 AM) No, it's not a complicated one. He KNEW he needed to pay the taxes, he even got an extra check just to cover the taxes. he even signed a form saying that he would use this extra check to pay the taxes that he owed. If he is that stupid, he doesn't desrve that kind of a job. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzJjO...jhlMWQ2MWZiNTA= That kind of blatent disregard for the tax laws would land you or me in jail. This guy is just another rich asshole gaming the system because he thinks he can get away with it, and hoping now that his 'friends' and connections can get him out of it. Jail him! I agree with the spirit, but seriously, you would not find yourself in jail for this. We just do not lock people up for this. Heavy fines. No jail time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 15, 2009 -> 10:35 PM) I agree with the spirit, but seriously, you would not find yourself in jail for this. We just do not lock people up for this. Heavy fines. No jail time. Everyday Thomas, yes, they would... but then again, everyday Thomas wouldn't be making this kind of money. Since he makes this kind of money, and it's just an "oversight", of course it'll get glossed over. Now if this were a Republican, he would have had to withdrawl his name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted January 16, 2009 Author Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 15, 2009 -> 11:50 PM) Everyday Thomas, yes, they would... but then again, everyday Thomas wouldn't be making this kind of money. Since he makes this kind of money, and it's just an "oversight", of course it'll get glossed over. Now if this were a Republican, he would have had to withdrawl his name... There are so many people that want this guy in this post, he could have done anything short of pulling Ben Bernanke's beating heart out of his chest and showing it to him before he dies and he would still get confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 15, 2009 -> 10:50 PM) Everyday Thomas, yes, they would... but then again, everyday Thomas wouldn't be making this kind of money. Since he makes this kind of money, and it's just an "oversight", of course it'll get glossed over. Now if this were a Republican, he would have had to withdrawl his name... I know my father had several clients with much larger tax problems than this guy who weren't looking at jail time. Hefty fines and penalties, but no jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 15, 2009 -> 10:50 PM) Everyday Thomas, yes, they would... but then again, everyday Thomas wouldn't be making this kind of money. Since he makes this kind of money, and it's just an "oversight", of course it'll get glossed over. Now if this were a Republican, he would have had to withdrawl his name... Maybe it is a regional thing. The attorney I know here whose practice is almost 100% taxes, said the IRS doesn't want to lock up anyone, they want the money. You can't earn anything while in prison. So probabtion and a hefty fine is their usual route. Or at least from his limited scope of of one law firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Jan 16, 2009 -> 12:55 AM) There are so many people that want this guy in this post, he could have done anything short of pulling Ben Bernanke's beating heart out of his chest and showing it to him before he dies and he would still get confirmed. Then again for some, that might actually add to his qualifications... Are we really to the point where it is OK to be a criminal for this guy? He is not irreplacable. After nearly a decade of having every Bush official questioned, and called a criminal of some kind or another, have we really gotten to the point where all of those standards are out of the window, even before the inauguration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 15, 2009 -> 10:50 PM) Everyday Thomas, yes, they would... but then again, everyday Thomas wouldn't be making this kind of money. Since he makes this kind of money, and it's just an "oversight", of course it'll get glossed over. Now if this were a Republican, he would have had to withdrawl his name... Geithner isn't a Democrat, as I understand it. He's an independent, and I think I read he actually was a registered Republican at one time. Since he hasn't run for a party-backed elected office before, I don't think he's ever really declared his party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 16, 2009 -> 07:52 AM) Geithner isn't a Democrat, as I understand it. He's an independent, and I think I read he actually was a registered Republican at one time. Since he hasn't run for a party-backed elected office before, I don't think he's ever really declared his party. If this were a Republican appointee, was the way I needed to phrase it. It's about appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cknolls Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Jan 16, 2009 -> 12:55 AM) There are so many people that want this guy in this post, he could have done anything short of pulling Ben Bernanke's beating heart out of his chest and showing it to him before he dies and he would still get confirmed. My question is: Why do so many people want this guy in the post? What has he done to prove he will be any better than Paulson? After all, he played a major role in who failed/survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (Cknolls @ Jan 16, 2009 -> 07:52 AM) My question is: Why do so many people want this guy in the post? What has he done to prove he will be any better than Paulson? After all, he played a major role in who failed/survived. You're asking us? You should be the one telling us. Am I the only one who remembers the DJIA jumping 500 points the day that news of his appointment was leaked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jan 16, 2009 -> 09:39 AM) If this were a Republican appointee, was the way I needed to phrase it. It's about appearances. Rep + Rep + Rep = Instant Approval Dem + Dem + Dem = Instant Approval And other combination is time to get out the magnifying glass and go to town. I said this all the time with Bush and I believe it with Obama. Political ideology should not be a factor in approval. Ethics, character, etc are all fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 I stopped at a gas station saturday night to grab some beer and when i got to the counter I saw Barack Obama t-shirts, Barack Obama playing cards and President Obama trading cards. I just shook my head and laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 09:09 AM) I stopped at a gas station saturday night to grab some beer and when i got to the counter I saw Barack Obama t-shirts, Barack Obama playing cards and President Obama trading cards. I just shook my head and laughed. lol, yeah, so many people trying to make money off his name right now. It's hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Any guesses at who will be the Bush controversial pardons, if any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 So far this is all I see http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090119/ap_on_...wh/bush_pardons Nothing controversial there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) So far this is all I see http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090119/ap_on_...wh/bush_pardons Nothing controversial there yet. Yeah, nothing big so far, but there are some big names floating around, such as Gonzalez, Ryan, Stevens, and some others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 08:11 AM) lol, yeah, so many people trying to make money off his name right now. It's hilarious. I sold the free Sun Times Obama insert from last Friday on eBay for $7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 19, 2009 -> 12:43 PM) So far this is all I see http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090119/ap_on_...wh/bush_pardons Nothing controversial there yet. Border Patrol agents who shot and killed an unarmed suspect (but known drug dealer), attempted a cover up, caught and duly convicted and sentenced. Had their sentences commuted by Bush. Controversial in some circles. Worries abound in some circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 12:37 PM) Border Patrol agents who shot and killed an unarmed suspect (but known drug dealer), attempted a cover up, caught and duly convicted and sentenced. Had their sentences commuted by Bush. Controversial in some circles. Worries abound in some circles. actually, the drug smuggler was shot on the buttocks during the altercation. he did not die. Edited January 20, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 02:36 PM) actually, the drug smuggler was shot on the buttocks during the altercation. he did not die. He was shot in the buttocks while running away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 02:41 PM) He was shot in the buttocks while running away. All I said was he didn't die. Nice to know you were there for the eyewitness account though, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 02:43 PM) All I said was he didn't die. Nice to know you were there for the eyewitness account though, thanks for the info. You mentioned "the altercation", and in my book running away is not an "altercation". I think that's an important fact in this case. And if you go look up any news article about the case, you'll find that is what happened, as the agents eventually acknowledged. No need for the snark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 02:52 PM) You mentioned "the altercation", and in my book running away is not an "altercation". I think that's an important fact in this case. And if you go look up any news article about the case, you'll find that is what happened, as the agents eventually acknowledged. No need for the snark. ok i looked up a news account http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311996,00.html According to testimony at the agents' trial, Aldrete encountered Border Patrol agents after crossing illegally into the U.S. from Mexico in a marijuana-loaded van. While fleeing from agents, he crashed the van and tried to run back to Mexico on foot. Before he could make it back across the Rio Grande, Aldrete struggled with Compean, who later fired more than a dozen shots at the fleeing man. Ramos fired a single shot after finding Compean on the ground, shooting at Aldrete. It was Ramos' bullet that hit Aldrete. Compean testified at trial that he shot in self-defense and fighting with Aldrete and then seeing what he believed to be a gun in Aldrete's hand. Ramos said he fired in defense of Compean. I classify this as an altercation. Drug van crashes, they struggle as the guy gets away. One officer is shooting at him, thinks smuggler has gun, and the second officer comes over and sees partner laying on the ground firing and shoots suspect rear. edit: apologies for smart-alecky portions of previous post Edited January 20, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The court system found them guilty and imposed a sentence. Those of us that live, work, and play in this area are nervous about agents that may feel empowered to shoot at will. Agents, understandably, are very frustrated that they can not pursue suspects into Mexico. The suspects know this, and quite frankly, act like total assholes once they are back across. They taunt and shout obscenities. So law enforcement become frustrated. But they are law enforcement, not military. And like I said if, for example, Schaumburg cops shot an unarmed suspect at Busse Woods, I suspect some people who picnic, fish, and enjoy Busse Woods would be concerned about continuing this behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Texsox @ Jan 20, 2009 -> 03:12 PM) But they are law enforcement, not military. And like I said if, for example, Schaumburg cops shot an unarmed suspect at Busse Woods, I suspect some people who picnic, fish, and enjoy Busse Woods would be concerned about continuing this behavior. If someone took a van filled with 800 pounds of pot drove into busse woods, tried to evade police, crashed said van, struggled with police, ended up getting shot in in rear - i would be more worried about additional smugglers in the area rather than the officer that shot said suspect. but thats just me. Edited January 20, 2009 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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