Greg Hibbard Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I worked in radio all throughout college and we were taught that your audience is always in flux, and that you need to be aware that they are constantly tuning in and out. Why is it that these two can never tell me the game situation without going on some tangent about something relatively meaningless first? On every occasion this season where I've missed the first several innings of a game, I hop in my car, hit 670 and am waiting for the score, and wait through 3+ minutes of banter before I can figure out what the hell the score is. On one such occasion, I pulled out my phone and obtained the score faster via the internet. That is inexcusably bad. How hard is it to repeat the score/game situation once, twice or three times an inning before you launch into some long-winded pontification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 They are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 (edited) You say it at the beginning and the end of the inning, and when any team scores. I havent heard Stone and Farmer neglect to mention the score when any of those opportunities presents itself. I think they do a great job of keeping the audience updated Edited July 9, 2008 by kyyle23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:07 AM) You say it at the beginning and the end of the inning, and when any team scores. I havent heard Stone and Farmer neglect to mention the score when any of those opportunities presents itself. I think they do a great job of keeping the audience updated In every situation where I've needed them to tell me the score this season, they've done so at the latest possible instance, and sometimes, incomprehensibly, not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Well Iam going to have agree with Hibbard on this one.I have found myself on a few occasions being extremely frustrated with them not telling the score.A couple times they didnt even say what the score was when the inning ended and that is inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 the situation where I had to actually pull out my phone and get the score went something like this turn on car, three minutes of commercials broadcast comes back on farmer: top of the seventh to ya, we have a pitching change, _________ is now in the game for the twins, he has a _____ ERA and a record of ______, and he'll be facing _______, here's the pitch stone: goes on some tangent about the pitcher farmer: continues tangent stone: continues tangent batter makes an out pitching change (first pitching change was for a LOOGY) farmer: we'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:12 AM) In every situation where I've needed them to tell me the score this season, they've done so at the latest possible instance, and sometimes, incomprehensibly, not at all. I like Stone but it is not his job. I am not sure about Farmer telling the score, but he paints the picture of the game in black and white. He frequently neglects to tell you the location of the pitch, whether it was a swinging or looking strike(out) and is very neglectful of exactly where and how the ball is hit, in particular on fouls. I used to listen to games on the radio (instead of watching on TV) because it was so enjoyable to hear Rooney verbalize what was going on on the field. You could close your eyes and imagine what was taking place. With Farmer, there is no picture, just his mindless banter occasionally peppered with very sterile play by play to sort of keep you up to date. He is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yeah, I think most of the problem here is that we have two analysts instead of a play by play guy and an analyst another thing that I can't stand about Farmer is that he takes as long as humanly possible to tell you the result of the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Rowland Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:23 AM) Yeah, I think most of the problem here is that we have two analysts instead of a play by play guy and an analyst another thing that I can't stand about Farmer is that he takes as long as humanly possible to tell you the result of the play. Plus he is pretty arrogant on the air unless he is stroking the ego of his partner in the booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klaus kinski Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Just think about last year...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I always thought keeping the score from the viewer/listener was intentional. How else do you keep them listening longer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scenario Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:05 AM) I worked in radio all throughout college and we were taught that your audience is always in flux, and that you need to be aware that they are constantly tuning in and out. Could be that you're just more aware of the flaws because of your background in radio? I love listening to them and I don't even notice the situations you're describing. In fact, I can't think of a broadcast team I've enjoyed listening to more... maybe ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swingandalongonetoleft Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 The mindless banter is what makes it entertaining. I like character in my broadcasts- if I wanted to hear strict play-by-play I'd go on gameday and read the pitch by pitch out loud. Farmer and Stone do a hell of a job. Dry as a desert humor+baseball knowledge=something I want to listen to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I'm 100% with you on this one GH. It can be maddening at times trying to figure out wtf is going on when you tune in mid-game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Jul 9, 2008 -> 09:05 AM) I worked in radio all throughout college and we were taught that your audience is always in flux, and that you need to be aware that they are constantly tuning in and out. Why is it that these two can never tell me the game situation without going on some tangent about something relatively meaningless first? On every occasion this season where I've missed the first several innings of a game, I hop in my car, hit 670 and am waiting for the score, and wait through 3+ minutes of banter before I can figure out what the hell the score is. On one such occasion, I pulled out my phone and obtained the score faster via the internet. That is inexcusably bad. How hard is it to repeat the score/game situation once, twice or three times an inning before you launch into some long-winded pontification? Thats Farmer's job, and he's terrible at it. I've counted on many occasions at least 3 pitches in the background before he acknowledges theres a game going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrian Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Anything beats Singleton. Stone is one of the best in baseball. I'd love to hear Hawk/Stone and Farmer/McDowell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Stone rules, Farmer is brutal at pbp. He sometimes doesn't finish a play call before going into a rant and his tone is awful. He makes the most exciting plays seem boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Stone is so much better than Farmer that it's not funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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